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CVO Technical => Drive Train => Topic started by: opee1 on April 14, 2005, 09:03:50 AM

Title: CLUTCH ADJUSTMENT HELP
Post by: opee1 on April 14, 2005, 09:03:50 AM
I'm having a problem with the way my clutch is hooking up. It's not catching until the very end of the lever. The cable adjustment is properly adjusted and I'm guessing it's an adjustment at the clutch basket. Can someone tell me how to correct the problem.

Opee
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Post by: WaSEEG on April 14, 2005, 09:38:33 AM
If you are talking about the SEEG I don't believe the hydraulic clutch is adjustable.  The owners manual refers you to the dealer if the clutch is not operating properly and the fluid level is set correctly.  I'm sure other , wiser minds will correct me if I'm wrong.  

If your question concerns one of your other bikes all you have to do is loosen the cable completely at the adjuster nut, remove the derby cover, loosen the locknut (11/16 I believe) and turn the allen head adjusting screw in until it seats lightly, and back it out 1/2 to 3/4 of a turn, tighten the lock nut, re-install the derby cover, and adjust the cable at the lever for 1/8' of freeplay.  If this doesn't work I'd call my friend Ray who is a certified, bona fide, trained , experienced Harley Tech and ask him what to do next.

`Dan
Title: Re:  CLUTCH ADJUSTMENT HELP
Post by: DCFIREMANN on April 14, 2005, 02:16:36 PM
There is no adjustment for the hydraulic clutch assy. If the clutches are wearing or the unit is low on fluid or has air in the system the clutch will not release or release right when you start to release the lever. If you think you have a problem see your local dealer.
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Post by: Screamin on April 14, 2005, 08:44:57 PM
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Measuring Clutch Plate Lift
1. Attach the magnetic base of a dial indicator to a rigid mounting-point on the motorcycle, such as the left-side rider footboard. Position the indicator to the end of the
clutch-release pushrod.
A minimum of .065
Title: Re:  CLUTCH ADJUSTMENT HELP
Post by: mfgreen on April 14, 2005, 11:06:20 PM
Glad your mechanics seemed to help a bit.

Mike
Title: Re:  CLUTCH ADJUSTMENT HELP
Post by: opee1 on April 15, 2005, 10:43:34 AM
Thanks for the advice...I'll give it a try.

P.S. No it's not on SEEG, mechanical clutch adjustment on my Ultra Classic.

Opee
Title: Re:  CLUTCH ADJUSTMENT HELP
Post by: DCFIREMANN on April 15, 2005, 07:02:38 PM
OPEE since it's a mechanical clutch thats easy to fix. WHY DIDN"T YOU SAY SO??????? Pm me later and I will talk you through. It is very easy.
Title: Re:  CLUTCH ADJUSTMENT HELP
Post by: opee1 on April 16, 2005, 10:24:28 AM
Thanks for the advice. The adjustment at the clutch was an easy one. However, i still only have about an inch of travel on the lever from disengages to fully engaged. The lever is adjusted properly and now the clutch basket is. The bike is still down shifting rough at low rpm's but is smooth at high rpm's. Not sure what else to do other than change the tranny fluid again. A buddy of mine said I might have something binding up in the tranny, but I'd think that would make it hard to shift all the time. Help.

P.S. 00' FLHTCUI with mechanical clutch.
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Post by: mfgreen on April 16, 2005, 10:41:32 AM
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Thanks for the advice. The adjustment at the clutch was an easy one. However, i still only have about an inch of travel on the lever from disengages to fully engaged. The lever is adjusted properly and now the clutch basket is. The bike is still down shifting rough at low rpm's but is smooth at high rpm's. Not sure what else to do other than change the tranny fluid again. A buddy of mine said I might have something binding up in the tranny, but I'd think that would make it hard to shift all the time. Help.

P.S. 00' FLHTCUI with mechanical clutch.
OPEE,
I forget, what are you using for lubrication in the tranny?

Mike
Title: Re:  CLUTCH ADJUSTMENT HELP
Post by: opee1 on April 16, 2005, 10:46:51 AM
HD transmission fluid.
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Post by: mfgreen on April 16, 2005, 10:47:46 AM
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HD transmission fluid.
Are you adverse to trying a synthetic other than SYN3?
Title: Re:  CLUTCH ADJUSTMENT HELP
Post by: opee1 on April 16, 2005, 10:50:51 AM
Not at all. It's just a bit odd that in my other bikes the HD tranny fluid works fine.
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Post by: mfgreen on April 16, 2005, 10:55:01 AM
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Not at all. It's just a bit odd that in my other bikes the HD tranny fluid works fine.
There are several synthetics that will serve you better.  Mobil1, Amsoil and Bel-something, to name a few.  Most have had more favorable reviews than what you are currently using and have eliminated difficulty in shifting.

Mike
Title: Re:  CLUTCH ADJUSTMENT HELP
Post by: opee1 on April 16, 2005, 10:58:37 AM
Thanks for the tip. Would I get the synthetic tranny fluid at an auto parts store?
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Post by: mfgreen on April 16, 2005, 11:05:51 AM
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Thanks for the tip. Would I get the synthetic tranny fluid at an auto parts store?
In some cases, yes.  I believe you should research these threads and read them first to familiarize yourself with the different experiences with each product including different weights used.  Then you decision will have some reassurances ofothers experiences.

Mike
Title: Re:  CLUTCH ADJUSTMENT HELP
Post by: geezerglide on April 16, 2005, 12:24:03 PM
Opee1,

Another excellent tranny fluid is Redline HD Shockproof Trans Fluid. Baker use in their transmission.

Since you have a mechanical clutch. Another product which will greatly lower clutch pull and positive gear engagement is a Variable Pressure Clutch Unit (VPC). You can get more information from a fellow named HIPPO (in Phoenix) at this the following website HIPPOVPC@gmail.com.

On the HTT (Harley Tech Talk) website the VPC unit has been discussed in length over the past six months and a lot of owners have been using it, myself included.

geezerglide
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Post by: WaSEEG on April 16, 2005, 03:24:04 PM
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Opee1,

Another excellent tranny fluid is Redline HD Shockproof Trans Fluid. Baker use in their transmission.

Since you have a mechanical clutch. Another product which will greatly lower clutch pull and positive gear engagement is a Variable Pressure Clutch Unit (VPC). You can get more information from a fellow named HIPPO (in Phoenix) at this the following website HIPPOVPC@gmail.com.

On the HTT (Harley Tech Talk) website the VPC unit has been discussed in length over the past six months and a lot of owners have been using it, myself included.

geezerglide


And the much touted VPC will work with the SEEG hydraulic clutch.

`Dan
Title: Re:  CLUTCH ADJUSTMENT HELP
Post by: opee1 on April 16, 2005, 03:26:43 PM
What are the +'s and -'s of this unit and what is the cost.
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Post by: WaSEEG on April 18, 2005, 10:40:56 PM
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What are the +'s and -'s of this unit and what is the cost.


Go to Harley Tech Talk: http://groups.msn.com/HarleyTechTalk.  There are a number of threads discussing the VPC.  I understand that it is supposed to help the clutch transfer power more efficiently , especially  for larger cubic inch applications.  I installed it because I didn't like the feel of the hydraulic clutch.  I found the clutch pull tiresome( I had a White Bros.  EZ pull on my RKC), and the engagement point too narrow.  It reduced the clutch pull about 40% and the increased the friction point so that the clutch engagement was more linear and less abrupt.  I also put one on my wifes (formerly my) RKC.  In conjunction with the EZ pull her clutch pull is like a 125 motocrosser.  Its truely a 1 finger clutch.  

Cost is around $245.00  See also:http://www.aim-tamachi.com/index02.html

Dan
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Post by: geezerglide on April 19, 2005, 01:44:31 AM
Opee1,

DDL is right it is an excellent unit. The guy who has become the "Guru" of VPC is HIPPO (Frank) in Phoenix.

VPC units are available for engines up to 120" - 124".

A shameless plug.

His email is HippoVPC@gmail.com.

I also supply them for the Canadian Riders.

My email is geezerglide2@yahoo.com

Anyway did not mean this to become a "Swap Meet or "Selling" Post, their is a lot