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[Eqcons]

I'd really like to add a decent GPS (like I had on my 03 Ultra) back on to my bike.  Love the look of the Garmin ones I see you guys discussing, and would go for one, despite having the MoFoMoCo system standard on the 07 CUSE2.

So, you're all thinking, what stops me?  Simple.  It's no good if I can't listen to my music, whether radio or MP3/CD, and have the GPS interrupt to give me instructions in my headset, just like my 03 did.  Wiring to the AUX socket doesn't do this, so that is a non-starter.  But it MUST be possible to tap the output from the Garmin into the headset wiring directly, surely?  With all the really clever electronics guys on the board here, somebody cleverer than me must be able to do it easily, no?

The sound output wouldn't need amplifying, so it could go direct to the headset, and perhaps some sort of relay type device could be used to cut the normal audio while there was input from the GPS (or is that too simple - is the GPS audio always on?)

Nobody looked at this, or got any ideas?

Jim

[igofar]

Kennedy, I think, had a auxiliary input device for the old HD system but nothing yet for our HK set ups.

I am seriously in need of a device to allow a GPS and Radar to interrupt the Audio output but it has not been invented......

Someone must be working on this??


Brad

[hogasm]

I'd really like to add a decent GPS (like I had on my 03 Ultra) back on to my bike.  Love the look of the Garmin ones I see you guys discussing, and would go for one, despite having the MoFoMoCo system standard on the 07 CUSE2.

So, you're all thinking, what stops me?  Simple.  It's no good if I can't listen to my music, whether radio or MP3/CD, and have the GPS interrupt to give me instructions in my headset, just like my 03 did.  Wiring to the AUX socket doesn't do this, so that is a non-starter.  But it MUST be possible to tap the output from the Garmin into the headset wiring directly, surely?  With all the really clever electronics guys on the board here, somebody cleverer than me must be able to do it easily, no?

The sound output wouldn't need amplifying, so it could go direct to the headset, and perhaps some sort of relay type device could be used to cut the normal audio while there was input from the GPS (or is that too simple - is the GPS audio always on?)

Nobody looked at this, or got any ideas?

Go to www.jmcorp.com and check out bluetooth. It will be available in April. Talked to JM the other day and they are going to have a unit in Daytona.

Jim

[Eqcons]

Kennedy, I think, had a auxiliary input device for the old HD system but nothing yet for our HK set ups.

I am seriously in need of a device to allow a GPS and Radar to interrupt the Audio output but it has not been invented......

Someone must be working on this??


Brad

Yes, Kennedy had a unit for the old system, Brad. That's what I used on my 03 Ultra. Worked great. I asked about the HK system, and he told me he had no plans to develop anything at all for it. 

Jim

[Eqcons]

Looks like J&M are getting there, but till they have the right "dongle" on the market, it's just vapourware.   

Jim

[Rhino]

On my 07, the stock nav will interrupt the audio so it gets your attention. But I do not like the stock nav, so I am considering Zumo.  But I think the question is, where can you tap into the radio, so the nav voice on the zumo will override the radio, etc.  Is that what we are discussing here? If so, can it or has it been dun?

Rhino

[igofar]

where can you tap into the radio, so the nav voice on the zumo will override the radio, etc.  Is that what we are discussing here? If so, can it or has it been dun?Rhino

Yup, that is what we are discussing...
Nope, it can't be done....yet!

Brad

[Midnight Rider]

Only solution is to load MP3 songs on the Garmin, and plug it into the front of the radio...when you need the voice directions, use the Aux on the radio, let the MP3 play...she will overide when necessary.

[Eqcons]

Only solution is to load MP3 songs on the Garmin, and plug it into the front of the radio...when you need the voice directions, use the Aux on the radio, let the MP3 play...she will overide when necessary.

Interesting workaround, but not really acceptable for me....

I can't help but think that there MUST be a simple solution, and that somebody half capable with electronics (i.e. not me!)  could think something up in 5 minutes though.

Jim

[Rhino]

Can you plug the zumo in the harley bluetooth module and have the zumo nav voice overide any input selections on the radio?
Rhino

[Eqcons]

Can you plug the zumo in the harley bluetooth module and have the zumo nav voice overide any input selections on the radio?
Rhino

I very much doubt it Rhino.  Bluetooth is.... peculiar at the best of times, and the Harley version is unsurprisingly more pecliar than most!

Jim

[reo]

Interesting workaround, but not really acceptable for me....

I can't help but think that there MUST be a simple solution, and that somebody half capable with electronics (i.e. not me!)  could think something up in 5 minutes though.

Jim

5 minutes is a tall order. I am going to work on a system based on the Autocom interupter, they have three models and I believe they have the best priority based interupters I've seen.

There are so many different ways to set whatever system you put together, based on if you want the speakers playing the output or if you want a helmet output.

For me, my first goal is to have my Ipod play with interuption from the radar detector (first priority) and gps (second priority) with the output to my ear molds or aux in on the HD radio. My second goal (maybe next year) is to work on the switching system comming from the radio, Ipod, gps and radar detector, going to the amplifier if possible.

Check out the Autocom website. The UK website http://www.autocom.co.uk/ gives more information than the the US site http://www.autocomamerica.com/

I saw these at the Chicago bike show and was very impressed at the options that were available.

[Eqcons]

5 minutes is a tall order. I am going to work on a system based on the Autocom interupter, they have three models and I believe they have the best priority based interupters I've seen.

There are so many different ways to set whatever system you put together, based on if you want the speakers playing the output or if you want a helmet output.

For me, my first goal is to have my Ipod play with interuption from the radar detector (first priority) and gps (second priority) with the output to my ear molds or aux in on the HD radio. My second goal (maybe next year) is to work on the switching system comming from the radio, Ipod, gps and radar detector, going to the amplifier if possible.

Check out the Autocom website. The UK website http://www.autocom.co.uk/ gives more information than the the US site http://www.autocomamerica.com/

I saw these at the Chicago bike show and was very impressed at the options that were available.

Yes, I've got an Autocom system here - it's good quality stuff.  But is something that sophisticated really necessary just to get extra audio into your helmet speakers?

Jim

[reo]

Yes, I've got an Autocom system here - it's good quality stuff.  But is something that sophisticated really necessary just to get extra audio into your helmet speakers?

Jim

For me the reason I like the Autocom is the way you can set up the priority having the radar detector take first priority the gps second and whatever music source you choose third. This is very important to me, maybe just me........Roy

[Eqcons]

For me the reason I like the Autocom is the way you can set up the priority having the radar detector take first priority the gps second and whatever music source you choose third. This is very important to me, maybe just me........Roy

No, it's a nice feature - but of course all unnecessary on the Ultra Classic, as the audio system is fine.  Except when you want to add a GPS (or radar detector, I guess)!

Jim

[Doc]

Interesting workaround, but not really acceptable for me....

I can't help but think that there MUST be a simple solution, and that somebody half capable with electronics (i.e. not me!)  could think something up in 5 minutes though.

Jim

Why won't this work for you?  Here's what I am using.  Zumo with a 4GB SD card inserted...full of MP3s.  Zumo allows XM use, MP3 use, or whatever, and it plugs into the head unit.  It can control all of your audio, and interrupt it all for voice directions whenever she wants to yell at you.  Only thing it can't interrupt is the CD player, but if ur using MP3 there is really no need for CD.  When I had my 2620, I went without the voice guidance, which is really overrated anyway.  But now it will all work.  Give it some thought.  Good luck!

Doc

[Eqcons]

Why won't this work for you?  Here's what I am using.  Zumo with a 4GB SD card inserted...full of MP3s.  Zumo allows XM use, MP3 use, or whatever, and it plugs into the head unit.  It can control all of your audio, and interrupt it all for voice directions whenever she wants to yell at you.  Only thing it can't interrupt is the CD player, but if ur using MP3 there is really no need for CD.  When I had my 2620, I went without the voice guidance, which is really overrated anyway.  But now it will all work.  Give it some thought.  Good luck!

Doc

Thanks Doc.  Main problem is I really like to listen to the radio when I ride, not MP3s, and I hate external cables like the one I'd have to plug into the AUX socket. I guess I'm just awkward! 

Jim

[Doc]

Thanks Doc.  Main problem is I really like to listen to the radio when I ride, not MP3s, and I hate external cables like the one I'd have to plug into the AUX socket. I guess I'm just awkward! 

Jim

Sure, I get you.  I hate those cables too.  But I never found anything better than running a cable down the handlebar and into the fairing, then back to the front.  It's neat enuf I guess.  Good hunting!

Doc

[Rhino]

Does anyone have the HD bluetooth module?. Cause I was thinking that the Zumo would link with the Harley bluetooth module. Then any mode on the radio would be overridden by the Zumo output. Dedicated to just this, without the phone, wouldn't it work?

Rhino

[Rhino]

From J&M Audio -



Many of you are wondering how we will go from Bluetooth headsets that will
only link to one type of system or feature at a time, to headsets that can be
used with full featured type audio systems (music, intercom, CB, cell phone,
GPS and/or radar detector all combined) like the ones now almost standard
equipment on the Honda Gold Wing and Harley Ultra Classic.
The secret to that transition will be in the custom designed "dongles" that
the engineers at J&M are working on right now.
The first custom J&M dongle to be released,
#JBLU-DNG01 is designed with
the sport tourer in mind as it
combines the stereo music from
an I-pod or other MP/3/sat radio
source with the beeps or braps from your
favorite radar detector, along with simultaneous
linking with your cell phone.
Plug your favorite passenger into the back of
your Bluetooth headset, link to your cell phone
and J&M #JBLU-DNG01 dongle and you will have a combined audio system featuring
music, intercom, cell phone and radar detector audio signals that are properly prioritized
and integrated for your riding enjoyment.
While the current crop of Bluetooth headsets may not yet be ready for "prime time" on
your Gold Wing, the custom made J&M dongles will lead the Bluetooth wireless headsets
from single feature devices, to integral parts of a complete motorcycle audio system.



http://www.jmcorp.com/jm-cat-2007-web.pdf

look on page 9


Rhino

[hard10]

I told you it would happen right after I bought my Nolan     

[Rhino]

Hey HD,

You have the bluetooth installed, and was wondering about what I said above about the bluetooth Harley version. I am a bit confused, If the bluetooth Harley would read a bluetooth headset , or phone, I wonder if it would also read the Zumo. Or, are they both trying to do the same thing, but linking to an outside device? Or can they read each other. If so problem solved. 

Of course, if J&M understands the issue, maybe the dongle is the correct way.  I hope to see them at the booth at Destination Daytona. Maybe they have one of their engineers there.  Or   UNBALANCED are you out there? Wherever you are.....you have both... Can it be dun?

Rhino

[Eqcons]

Hey HD,

You have the bluetooth installed, and was wondering about what I said above about the bluetooth Harley version. I am a bit confused, If the bluetooth Harley would read a bluetooth headset , or phone, I wonder if it would also read the Zumo. Or, are they both trying to do the same thing, but linking to an outside device? Or can they read each other. If so problem solved. 

Of course, if J&M understands the issue, maybe the dongle is the correct way.  I hope to see them at the booth at Destination Daytona. Maybe they have one of their engineers there.  Or   UNBALANCED are you out there? Wherever you are.....you have both... Can it be dun?

Rhino

Hi Rhino. 

No, in typical HD style, the front end on the radio means that only a phone (and precious few makes/models at that!) can connect to the HD BT. 

Jim

[Rhino]

Well, how about this?
Harley Part   70169-06

Do we (07) already have this, or will this allow an additional input, ie the GPS audio?  What if we disconnected the current GPS stock unit input, and replaced it with a hard wire from the Zumo?

Harley Description:
Advanced Audio System Wiring Harness
Allows installation of additional Advanced Audio accessories. This product is available in multiple variations. Be sure to look for the one that fits the specific model and year of your motorcycle. Allows Installation of Hands Free Cell Phone or XM Satellite Radio Kit and Hands Free Cell Phone components on FLHTCUI models.
Fits '06-later FLHTCUI models equipped with Advanced Audio Radio.

Rhino

[Eqcons]

Well, how about this?
Harley Part   70169-06

Do we (07) already have this, or will this allow an additional input, ie the GPS audio?  What if we disconnected the current GPS stock unit input, and replaced it with a hard wire from the Zumo?

Harley Description:
Advanced Audio System Wiring Harness
Allows installation of additional Advanced Audio accessories. This product is available in multiple variations. Be sure to look for the one that fits the specific model and year of your motorcycle. Allows Installation of Hands Free Cell Phone or XM Satellite Radio Kit and Hands Free Cell Phone components on FLHTCUI models.
Fits '06-later FLHTCUI models equipped with Advanced Audio Radio.

Rhino

Yes, you need that harness to install the Bluetooth, and it does have spare connectors - but there's no obvious way to interface to them.  Interesting thought though!

Jim

[Rhino]

We are getting closer.  Need to look at the 07 CUSE wiring schematic later. Now I must ride. It's BIKEWEEK ya know.

Rhino

[Eqcons]

We are getting closer.  Need to look at the 07 CUSE wiring schematic later. Now I must ride. It's BIKEWEEK ya know.

Rhino

Have fun!   

Jim

[Buffalo Phil]

Why won't this work for you?  Here's what I am using.  Zumo with a 4GB SD card inserted...full of MP3s.  Zumo allows XM use, MP3 use, or whatever, and it plugs into the head unit.  It can control all of your audio, and interrupt it all for voice directions whenever she wants to yell at you.  Only thing it can't interrupt is the CD player, but if ur using MP3 there is really no need for CD.  When I had my 2620, I went without the voice guidance, which is really overrated anyway.  But now it will all work.  Give it some thought.  Good luck!

Doc

I find this solution very interesting as an intermediary one, before finding a real bluetooth hardware that can plug mobile, Zumo, and HK all together.
Personally, I had the original HD GPS installed and find it boring, it is only interesting when you want to go from point A to point B. No way to design a trip, no maps, etc...
I first owned a Quest and found it fantastic. I designed a trip of about 2500 miles from LA to Grand Canyon, Vegas, SF and back LA without missing a road.
I now bought the new Zumo which is the perfect evolution of the Quest.
As you all, I am trying now to take the most out of the product, i.e. having my mobile phone ringing in my headset and seeing the name of the caller on the Zumo screen, and obviously having the road directions also through my headset.

So, to come back to the accessory loophole, it is a simple way to get the sound from the Zumo, but what about Mobile phone call answering? Can you have the micro output of the Zumo working with the HK system?

Have a nice day,

Buffalo Phil

[Eqcons]

So, to come back to the accessory loophole, it is a simple way to get the sound from the Zumo, but what about Mobile phone call answering? Can you have the micro output of the Zumo working with the HK system?


Buffalo Phil

Same problem, Phil - but having said that, it's a little like re-inventing the wheel, because the HD Bluetooth for phones exists, and works well.

Jim

[Buffalo Phil]

Same problem, Phil - but having said that, it's a little like re-inventing the wheel, because the HD Bluetooth for phones exists, and works well.

Jim

I'd like to buy the HD Bluetooth and found very usefull information thanks to this forum. I'd like to take the opportunity to thank the conceptor and all the contributors.
But here are some issues regarding the HD Bluetooth:
1. It is not intended by HD to be implemented in the Leather Touring Pack we have on the FLHTCUSE, which is stupid (my opinion), so all I found in several comments here is handy andy solutions : put it elsewere behind, under, whatever around the tour-pack or, what seems the best, above the HK radio, but what about the weight of the bluetooth hardware as it is not intended to be put there? (how will it last over time?).
2. The HD Bluetooth accept only a limited number of mobile phones. I have personally a Sony Ericsson K800i (which is the European version of the US K790a), how will it work with this?
3. It seems that the HD Bluetooth does not work with the Garmin Zumo, so it means that they will not work together which is boring.

Let's dream about a solution developed by HD and Garmin, they worked already hand in hand for the Quest, so why not for the Zumo?

Have a nice day,

Phil

[Smiler]

I take it you guys all have EG.   Is there anyone out there who has a system hooked up to a SERK.  Having GPS/radar scan & music is something I can only dream about.