I've been biting my lip too, but for the opposite reason.
I completely disagree that these discussions should take place elsewhere. The subject is "2023 CVO's" that should include anything and all conversation regarding such. The heading wasn't "Let's bow down to Harley and only post if you really like a 2023 CVO and no criticism allowed", unless I misread.
This subject should be able to include discussing the price, commonalities, prior and current issues, likes / dislikes, praises, etc... etc... So by what is said here, should we all go the the Vette, BMW or Honda site to discuss 2023 CVO's ? NO, this site is where this should be able to be discussed.
I don't think anyone has the right to tell another to move on if they don't want to pay the price of admission. A very large portion of the members here can afford one of these things right this minute and many would pay cash. It's not a matter of can't afford it's a matter of common sense and logic, financial responsibility. The biggest part of this price discussion is the rate at which it has accelerated compared to other vehicles and how it's not worth it. Instead of telling folks to move on, how about informing us of the nature of these absurd increases and make us understand why Harley's inferior bikes should cost so much more than the compared vehicles. Let us all in on the secret behind why Harley needs the increases to be so much more than others in the industry, you won't be able to because there is no common sense reason for it.
I do agree with TN though.... After were all done keyboard racing,,,,,, lets ride!!!