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160/80B16 Elite 3 on a seeg
« on: December 10, 2006, 07:17:33 PM »

Been looking at the Elite III
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Re: 160/80B16 Elite 3 on a seeg
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2006, 07:21:06 PM »

Here is a side by side comparison of my seeg with the new tire and my deluxe. The deluxe has a white wall D402 MU85B16 with 4400 miles. The tire on the duluxe shows the size tread pattern that was originaly on my seeg.
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Re: 160/80B16 Elite 3 on a seeg
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2006, 07:22:50 PM »

Heres a side by side from the rear showing the different profile and width of the 160 vs the MU85. Sorry I know the bikes are dirty but its awfully cold here.
« Last Edit: December 10, 2006, 07:23:43 PM by reo »
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Re: 160/80B16 Elite 3 on a seeg
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2006, 07:27:45 PM »

Here is a side by side comparison of my new front tire on the seeg and the front tire on my sefb. The sefb shows the original tread pattern as what was oem on my seeg before the change. You can't see it from the pic but the new Elite 3 tire is I think is about 3/8 inch narrower than the original.
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Re: 160/80B16 Elite 3 on a seeg
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2006, 08:22:37 PM »

 
Roy, thanks for the report and photos.  The tread pattern on those does look SWEET!  They look like they'd definitely be a better cornering tire than the D402s.

Give us an update after you get a few more miles, OK?

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Re: 160/80B16 Elite 3 on a seeg
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2006, 10:40:24 PM »

I put on the Elite 3s right before MV Roy.  They handled all road conditions including pretty heavy rain for a stretch on the way home without any issue.  Just felt solid all the time.  Maybe 4000 miles total on the tires sor far and no complaints.  In fact I think they're bet wet road tire I can remember riding on.
« Last Edit: February 12, 2007, 08:02:11 PM by Twolanerider »
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Re: 160/80B16 Elite 3 on a seeg
« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2006, 10:48:41 PM »

Don
did you use the stock width or the 160?
( i dont remember)
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Re: 160/80B16 Elite 3 on a seeg
« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2006, 10:52:04 PM »

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Don
did you use the stock width or the 160?
( i dont remember)


It was the stock size Scot.  I considered the bigger tire.  But no one had one and I was only a few days before leaving for MV.  So it wasn't really an option.  I don't remember if you're one of the guys that rode the red bike at MV or not.  A few did when we talked about the new tires one day.  I've really liked them so far; especially for a highway tire.
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Re: 160/80B16 Elite 3 on a seeg
« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2006, 10:55:06 PM »

didn't ride it...i was pushing my luckj with 1 borrowed bike as it was..lol
need my 10k svc..  debating whether to stick with the 402 or switch..
problem may be finding a set...  strike and all..i know my stealer doesnt stock em..
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Re: 160/80B16 Elite 3 on a seeg
« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2006, 11:07:18 PM »

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didn't ride it...i was pushing my luckj with 1 borrowed bike as it was..lol
need my 10k svc..
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Re: 160/80B16 Elite 3 on a seeg
« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2006, 11:08:48 PM »

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After having ridden these for me it's a no-brainer what do do again.
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Re: 160/80B16 Elite 3 on a seeg
« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2006, 08:52:55 PM »

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After having ridden these for me it's a no-brainer what do do again.
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Re: 160/80B16 Elite 3 on a seeg
« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2006, 08:57:00 PM »

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Don, are you saying you had the Honda shop pull the wheels off your bike and do the tire swap or did you pull the wheels?

Either way thats a h_ll of a price. I pulled my wheels and had a local old school chopper shop do the tire swap/ballance $60. I had the local Honda shop do a tire swap on my BMW last year but was leary having them mess with my detonator's. I payed about $225 for the tires, note that 160 is a little more than the MU90. I never checked prices at the local Honda dealer here but from my experience they dont have prices here like you experienced.

They did the whole thing Roy.  R&R the wheels and mount and balance the tires.  They've got one guy in the shop that works on Harleys (other than interneal powertrain).  So the "Harley Guy" pulled the wheels and did the work.  It was basically just the cost of the tires and a free installation.  For what it cost I wasn't about to take them on and off myself and haul stuff back and forth.
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Re: 160/80B16 Elite 3 on a seeg
« Reply #13 on: December 14, 2006, 09:06:06 PM »

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Roy, thanks for the report and photos.
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Re: 160/80B16 Elite 3 on a seeg
« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2006, 09:53:53 PM »

Thanks for the report and pictures Reo.  The Elite 3's and the ME880's have the same style tread pattern.  As Reo and 2Lane have stated about the Elite 3's, the ME880's are also vastly improved over the 402's..  I would buy the ME880's again and would have no problem buying the Elite 3's..  If I were to purchase a new HD, the 402's would be off before it left the dealer or soon as I got home.  The 402's would be replaced way before exhaust, etc..  The only downside of the 880's or Elite 3's is the lack of availibility on the road while traveling.  Most people will never go back to 402's once they've changed to the before mentioned tires.
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Re: 160/80B16 Elite 3 on a seeg
« Reply #15 on: December 14, 2006, 11:57:28 PM »

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Re: 160/80B16 Elite 3 on a seeg
« Reply #16 on: December 15, 2006, 12:59:40 AM »

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Don, are you saying you had the Honda shop pull the wheels off your bike and do the tire swap or did you pull the wheels?

Either way thats a h_ll of a price. I pulled my wheels and had a local old school chopper shop do the tire swap/ballance $60. I had the local Honda shop do a tire swap on my BMW last year but was leary having them mess with my detonator's. I payed about $225 for the tires, note that 160 is a little more than the MU90. I never checked prices at the local Honda dealer here but from my experience they dont have prices here like you experienced.

Excellent write up and photo's Roy! [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]

I experienced the same with my rear tire. After I got home from MV I couldn't believe how much wear it had from the 2000+ miles I put on. I didn't push the 100 mark coming home but I did try to keep up with 103T all week! ;D I wasn't going to push it to the 10,000 mark, so after seeing 2lanes elite 3 at MV I decided to give them baby's a shot.

When I was researching the elite 3 tires and I found them the cheapest going thru motoXoutlet.

MT90B16-Front $85.99
MU90B16-Rear  $96.99
Shipping    $25.00

Total  $207.98
  
Here is the hot link http://www.motoxoutlet.com/index.asp?PageAction=CARTDETAILS

I too am very pleased with the feel of these tires. I hope I can get the life I did out of my stock Dunlops minus the rear tire from MV trip! ;D ::) ;D ;)

Hey Roy, whattaya mean too cold to clean the bike??? [smiley=nixweiss.gif] That morning we left out of MV wasn't too cold....once my heated seat melted the frost off my seat! [smiley=nervous.gif] Ya need to come down to Memphis this weekend, 70+ degrees and bring these babys  8-). Merry Christmas Buddy and God Bless!

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Re: 160/80B16 Elite 3 on a seeg
« Reply #17 on: December 15, 2006, 01:04:59 AM »

By the way, Tires were shipped right away, no delay from strike. And here is another link to the Elite 3 bias tires for touring.

http://www.motoxoutlet.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=975

The other link showed my cart and shipping of $25 expired. Later!

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Re: 160/80B16 Elite 3 on a seeg
« Reply #18 on: December 15, 2006, 09:14:42 PM »

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Re: 160/80B16 Elite 3 on a seeg
« Reply #19 on: December 16, 2006, 07:55:09 AM »

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Hey Roy, whattaya mean too cold to clean the bike??? [smiley=nixweiss.gif] That morning we left out of MV wasn't too cold....once my heated seat melted the frost off my seat! [smiley=nervous.gif] Ya need to come down to Memphis this weekend, 70+ degrees and bring these babys
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Re: 160/80B16 Elite 3 on a seeg
« Reply #20 on: December 16, 2006, 01:37:10 PM »

I have been using the rear Dunlop/Elite 3 for the last 4000 miles and they are great.... [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]

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Re: 160/80B16 Elite 3 on a seeg
« Reply #21 on: December 16, 2006, 02:07:23 PM »

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Did he change the gear oil in the shaft drive while he was at it? [smiley=huepfenlol2.gif]



I wasn't at all worried about that install Brian.  At least not until the kid in the stall next to my bike grabbed a drive shaft and started looking for a place to mount it.  He gave up when he couldn't wrap the drive belt it around it like a torsion sping and make the whole thing spin when it was released.
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Re: 160/80B16 Elite 3 on a seeg
« Reply #22 on: February 11, 2007, 11:47:44 AM »

I think some of the original information posted by Reo was lost in the transition to the new website.  I PM'd him for additional details which I share below for others that are still considering the E3 switch. I think I have been convinced to give them a try.

"The 160 was an elite III and it fit perfectly with about an 1/8" clearance from the plastic belt guard. I haven't felt any rubbing from the diameter change but I haven't taken it all the way up yet. I have to tell you I did quite a bit of measuring before ordering and it fit on my bike but I wouldn't count on it fitting every EG without maybe a spacer mod.

Yes I put the tire on the stock detonator, and I might point out Dunlop doesn't condome this tire on a 3" rim. It looks good in there and the tread not quite as nice as the Metzler or even the 150 sreamin eagle tire on my FatBoy but it looks much better than the stock one. I really liked the load rating being higher than the stock tire and much higher then the Metz. The Elite III tires have a skinny profile even the front tire is a little narrower so you loose a little width in the front.

I like the ride and handling so far with a little less than 1k so far (salt on the roads here). I'm not sure I would be a fair judge going from worn out hard stock 402's to the Elite III's, but I'm very impressed so far. Another by product of the switch for me was the speedo was 2-4mph off depending on the speed (I'm comparing this to my gps) and now its just about dead nut.

I would have to say the Elite III's with the 160 on the back seem like they were made for my bike.

One thing I forgot to point out: the Elite III's are narrower than published. I didn't measure them but my assumpsion is they are slightly taller than published. In fact my measurements before taking delivery of the tires confirmed I was going to remove or modify the belt guard but the tires are maybe 3/8" narrower than I was expecting. I know I used the 160 on a 3" rim but the front tire is narrower than published also. The profile of the front could be wider, I really would like a larger front tire to fill the fender but they don't make a larger one in the Elite III series. Actually the biggest reason for me going to these tires is the load rating. I literally burnt the stock back tire off my seeg comming back from M/V loaded up 100mph 9 1/2 hrs to Chi-town."
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Re: 160/80B16 Elite 3 on a seeg
« Reply #23 on: February 12, 2007, 07:55:14 PM »


I just decided to get a pair of the Elite 3's and give them a try this Spring


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