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[JCZ]

JCZ, I'm not a tech or motorhead but have a very good friend who is.  Basically, using a lower smoothing number (4 instead of 5) may allow a slightly higher peak number that would otherewise be lost using the greater smoothing provided by the higher smoothing number; one or two hp/tq.  STD as a correction factor typically yields higher hp and tq than SAE.  Can't be exact on the difference but somewhere around 3% +/-.

Carl

If that's true......it's as I suspected.  Slight of hand on the dyno to make it look better than it truely is, to the casual observer. 

Doc, you'd not be the first one to travel up from So Cal to have Bob dyno tune their bike.  Might be worth the trip when you get home.

[DOC.COFFIN]

That's some good intel gentlemen, thank you. JCZ...what do you think I'm lookin' at $OTD for the cam work and Dyno?

[JCZ]

That's some good intel gentlemen, thank you. JCZ...what do you think I'm lookin' at $OTD for the cam work and Dyno?

Give Jim (hd-dude on this forum) is who you want to talk to.  He's the one that did all the work on mine and Terrie's bikes (and most of the other Nor Cal members bikes).  He'll do the work and get you dyno tuned and all.....in one package.

 Metal Dragon
22336 Meekland Ave
Hayward, CA 94541
510-885-9471

[DOC.COFFIN]

Thanks for the info...I'll definitely be making contact with Jim.

[Dryer]

I dropped my Kryptonite bike off last night at my tuners to have him tune it.  This is on my bike with Vance and Hines Power duals with Rinehart 4" slip ons and a Power Commander V.   He said he was pretty happy with how it turned out.  He said that it was pretty lean!

[hbens]

Here is the dyno run for my 2012 SESG. It has bone stock running gear with 1225 miles on it.
I'll post the follow on dyno run after I put fuelmoto header pipe, 4 1/2" tuned muffler's and a Power Vision EFI controller on it.

[hbens]

I'll try adding a jpeg picture of the dyno sheet this time.
With luck it will show up fine!

[ibemployed]

Give Jim (hd-dude on this forum) is who you want to talk to.  He's the one that did all the work on mine and Terrie's bikes (and most of the other Nor Cal members bikes).  He'll do the work and get you dyno tuned and all.....in one package.

 Metal Dragon
22336 Meekland Ave
Hayward, CA 94541
510-885-9471

I compared my 12' SESG to my 08' goldwing and was a little disappointed with the power of the SG.  Does the SG perform better after the break in period?

[JCZ]

I'll try adding a jpeg picture of the dyno sheet this time.
With luck it will show up fine!

That's a pretty rough graph there.....was that before the tune?

Where's the A/F graph?

[JCZ]

I compared my 12' SESG to my 08' goldwing and was a little disappointed with the power of the SG.  Does the SG perform better after the break in period?

A bit.  You do know the HDs are detuned from the factory (to meet EPA standards) don't you?  You have to get them breathing.....get em tuned to run right.  Then it's a huge difference.

[Midnight Rider]

I compared my 12' SESG to my 08' goldwing and was a little disappointed with the power of the SG.  Does the SG perform better after the break in period?

Apples to Kiwi Fruit...

[FAST380]

I don't like Kiwi Fruit..... Just sayin...

[hbens]

JCZ,
This run was just a baseline of my stock running bike. I didn't ask for nor receive an A/F graph on the print out.
This was a winter special for $25 bring your bike and see what it puts out; no frills and no extra work I guess. They are planting a seed to make me 'need' another dyno run and extra dyno/tech time to tweak out the best performance.
I'll be more interested in the complete picture when I put the exhaust and power vision tuner on in a few months when my wallet cools off a little  . (This will be the first stage of development for the bike)
Then there will be a follow on dyno run when I go into the motor and change the pistons, cams and maybe do the heads (Second stage of development)
I wish I could do it all at once but can't. I just bought a tour-pak and all the goodies that go with it, matching passengar footboards, and highway peg mounts.
Plus I have to have enough cash to ride out west in late June to early July. So many things to do with a finite amount of disposable income.

[FAST380]

hbens,

Like everybody always says, the Dyno is more of a tuning tool than anything else. I have Fullsac head pipe and cores, Fueling cams, TTS tuner, and I came in the same torque as you.

[Midnight Rider]

hbens...that Dyno run was on a completely stock bike?  Not trying to be contentious, but there's no way in hell a stock bike is putting out 116 TQ at the rear wheel.  I'd say the dealer had a "happy" dyno.  Stock numbers are more in the 80's on HP and very low 100's for TQ (if that).  Add something like the Fullsac X pipe, 2" baffles, and TTS Mastertune, for <$1100 if you do it yourself, and the numbers will go up to the mid 90's HP, and 110 TQ, plus or minus a tad, depending on the Dyno, environmental conditions when the run was done, etc.  A noticeable improvement in power and drivability over the stock configuration.