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Super Bowl
« on: February 12, 2024, 06:59:51 AM »

It was nice this years game was not a blow out.  I was glad KC won.  I really didn't have a team in it.  However 49ers beat my Lions so I wanted them to loose.
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Re: Super Bowl
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2024, 09:20:36 AM »

You're right Dave, nice to see a close competitive game. I too really didn't have a dog in this hunt. Not being a Chiefs or 49ers fan. I guess I was kinda pulling for the 49ers because of being a Joe Montana fan, oh well.

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Re: Super Bowl
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2024, 09:47:46 AM »

Not a fan of either team but it was a great game except for all the Taylor Swift chit.....
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Re: Super Bowl
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2024, 09:55:17 AM »

Not a fan of either team but it was a great game except for all the Taylor Swift chit.....
Yeah you know I'm with you I am so over the Taylor Swift crap and the Travis Kelsey show I'm like I'm done.

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Re: Super Bowl
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2024, 12:52:54 PM »

There was a game on?
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Re: Super Bowl
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2024, 02:03:58 PM »

Taylor Swift and Travis Kelcie didn’t bother me anymore than Joe DiMaggio and Marilyn Monroe, Frank Gifford and Kathy Lee, Lance Rentzal and Joey Heatherton, or Jimmy Connors and Patty McGuire. However Joe Theismann and Kathy Lee Crosby pissed me off as Joes wife Sherry caught them together on the eve of SB 18. Theismann went on to have a horrible game and the Skins lost to the Raiders. Folks get twisted for the silliest reasons.

I thought it was an excellent game. I feel bad for SF but have to say that Patrick Mahomes has fully cemented himself on the mantle of greatness. During that final drive he willed the team down the field. He was NEVER thinking field goal, only touchdown.

To carry it to extremes, one day you can say you lived in the time of Patrick Mahomes.
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Re: Super Bowl
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2024, 07:54:41 AM »

Funny with all the complaining about Taylor Swift, it didn't really bother me.  I'm 100% positive it doesn't both the NFL or the Chiefs Franchise.  By most reports Taylor has generated an additional 331 million in revenue for the Chiefs.  She has also generated additional income for the NFL, and brought in viewers they didn't have.
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Re: Super Bowl
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2024, 08:19:35 AM »

Funny with all the complaining about Taylor Swift, it didn't really bother me.  I'm 100% positive it doesn't both the NFL or the Chiefs Franchise.  By most reports Taylor has generated an additional 331 million in revenue for the Chiefs.  She has also generated additional income for the NFL, and brought in viewers they didn't have.
Oh good lord yes, Taylor Swift is a living, breathing, walking singing and entertaining money machine. She makes more money just waking up to have coffee than I make in a year. I'm sure she has generated piles of revenue for the Chiefs and related industries.

Here's the thing,  I could care less who any professional athlete dates or marries.....make no difference to me at all. But in saying that when I decide to tune in and watch a sporting event of any kind I have NO desire to have a camera pan the reaction of a wife or girlfriend after each play. Yes of course the networks show a mom and dad reactions after a particularly good or bad play. Same with a wife or girlfriend. But 5 or 6 or 7 plus times a game gets old IMHO.

For example for my personal preference,  after say Travis Kelce catches a touchdown pass.....rather then spend time showing Taylor Swift jumping up and down repeatedly along with Patrick Mahomes wife in their luxury suite. How about showing some detailed replay of the touchdown along with some indepth analysis of how it happened.

Again I could care less about Taylor Swift  or who she dates.....but I also have no desire to see her reactions numerous times during a game. It adds nothing to my personal game enjoyment.......I'm sure I'm in the minority though.

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Re: Super Bowl
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2024, 08:46:09 AM »

after say Travis Kelce catches a touchdown pass.....rather then spend time showing Taylor Swift jumping up and down repeatedly along with Patrick Mahomes wife in their luxury suite. How about showing some detailed replay of the touchdown along with some indepth analysis of how it happened.

They do that. In fact there are so many cameras they can show it from six different angles. And the cut away shots take what, 2.5 seconds?

This is no different than having a camera on Archie and Olivia Manning to catch their reaction when one of their sons made a big play. We had the same thing going on with a camera on Mike Shanahan or Ed McCaffery to catch their reactions when Kyle or Christian does something.

And like you said alll of it drives up interest for the league which drives up income.
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Re: Super Bowl
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2024, 11:47:38 AM »

But 5 or 6 or 7 plus times a game gets old IMHO.

For example for my personal preference,  after say Travis Kelce catches a touchdown pass.....rather then spend time showing Taylor Swift jumping up and down repeatedly along with Patrick Mahomes wife in their luxury suite. How about showing some detailed replay of the touchdown along with some indepth analysis of how it happened.

Again I could care less about Taylor Swift  or who she dates.....but I also have no desire to see her reactions numerous times during a game. It adds nothing to my personal game enjoyment.......I'm sure I'm in the minority though.

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Re: Super Bowl
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2024, 11:47:38 AM »

I consider Patrick Mahomes one of if not THE best athletes to ever play football, and was so glad they won.

Now let's see the Chiefs 3-peat!   :2vrolijk_21:

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Re: Super Bowl
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2024, 12:09:32 PM »

rather then spend time showing Taylor Swift jumping up and down repeatedly along with Patrick Mahomes wife in their luxury suite. How about showing some detailed replay of the touchdown along with some indepth analysis of how it happened.

I counted 16 times.


I hear what you're saying here.  We can blame all that on technology. "Back in the day" the TV Cameras were vacuum tube huge things mounted on golf carts or up in the TV boxes.  All They did was follow the action with one camera designated for cut away shots of fans and cheerleaders. I know you remember the shots, the standard cut away shots were the "cheerleaders, pretty girl in the stands, the child all dressed in team colors or the shirtless fat guy drinking cold beer".  But as the league grew in revenue and cameras became smaller, lighter, portable and digital more and more cameras on the field was the norm.

And then there's the issue of the playback.  Everyone of these cameras has a playback guy in the studio/truck whose sole job is to rewind or back up the action for replay.  This takes time, maybe 3 seconds for something immediate, or 7-10 for specific action like a foot placement or ball coming out fumble. The dilemma is what to do in those 3-7 seconds (which is a life time for live TV) of rewind time.  So this is where the cut away shots are.

So in essence a single play can go like this.

1. Live action covers an interception with run back and a penalty on the play.  This is what we see live.

2. Cut away action shows fan reaction, coach reaction, player reaction, family reaction and Taylor Swift.  This is what we see live while video of the previous play is being cued up.  What hear is the TV analyst (Tony Romo) give his spiel on the pass, the referee analyst (Gene Steratore) give his spiel on the penalty. all while we are looking at Coach Reid, Coach Shanahan, and all the cut aways.

3. Specific video of the infraction is found. It is replayed enhanced with zooms, telestrator marks and highlights.  Everyone talks about this while we go back and forth between the video and cut aways.

4. Referee call is announced live on camera.  We see and hear this.

5. Cut aways of coaches and players as we hear the analysts guess what the next play will be based on the penalty.

6. Live action as they break the huddle and line up.

Now remember all of this happens in less time then it takes for you to get another slice of pizza or go to the bathroom.

Go back and watch a MNF game from 1970 on Youtube.  Compared to today it moves along at glacier speed, the views are limited and so is everything else.

In addition to all the technological advances, I think the league sees the viewers as ADHD kids where the game is a pinball machine with lots of action, bells and whistles to keep them entertained. This all started to change after SB-V when the Colts beat the Cowboys 16-13.  It was low scoring a tough defensive game.  Low scoring doesn't sell jackets and jerseys.  So the next year the league passed rules in defense coverage that opened up the passing game to make it more exciting.

Anyway that's how I see it.
I could be wrong.


Wow, you counted 16 cutaways of Taylor Swift.  You could become an NFL Statistician!
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Re: Super Bowl
« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2024, 12:16:47 PM »

But 5 or 6 or 7 plus times a game gets old IMHO.

For example for my personal preference,  after say Travis Kelce catches a touchdown pass.....rather then spend time showing Taylor Swift jumping up and down repeatedly along with Patrick Mahomes wife in their luxury suite. How about showing some detailed replay of the touchdown along with some indepth analysis of how it happened.

Again I could care less about Taylor Swift  or who she dates.....but I also have no desire to see her reactions numerous times during a game. It adds nothing to my personal game enjoyment.......I'm sure I'm in the minority though.

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Holy crap 16....

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Re: Super Bowl
« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2024, 12:20:33 PM »


I hear what you're saying here.  We can blame all that on technology. "Back in the day" the TV Cameras were vacuum tube huge things mounted on golf carts or up in the TV boxes.  All They did was follow the action with one camera designated for cut away shots of fans and cheerleaders. I know you remember the shots, the standard cut away shots were the "cheerleaders, pretty girl in the stands, the child all dressed in team colors or the shirtless fat guy drinking cold beer".  But as the league grew in revenue and cameras became smaller, lighter, portable and digital more and more cameras on the field was the norm.

And then there's the issue of the playback.  Everyone of these cameras has a playback guy in the studio/truck whose sole job is to rewind or back up the action for replay.  This takes time, maybe 3 seconds for something immediate, or 7-10 for specific action like a foot placement or ball coming out fumble. The dilemma is what to do in those 3-7 seconds (which is a life time for live TV) of rewind time.  So this is where the cut away shots are.

So in essence a single play can go like this.

1. Live action covers an interception with run back and a penalty on the play.  This is what we see live.

2. Cut away action shows fan reaction, coach reaction, player reaction, family reaction and Taylor Swift.  This is what we see live while video of the previous play is being cued up.  What hear is the TV analyst (Tony Romo) give his spiel on the pass, the referee analyst (Gene Steratore) give his spiel on the penalty. all while we are looking at Coach Reid, Coach Shanahan, and all the cut aways.

3. Specific video of the infraction is found. It is replayed enhanced with zooms, telestrator marks and highlights.  Everyone talks about this while we go back and forth between the video and cut aways.

4. Referee call is announced live on camera.  We see and hear this.

5. Cut aways of coaches and players as we hear the analysts guess what the next play will be based on the penalty.

6. Live action as they break the huddle and line up.

Now remember all of this happens in less time then it takes for you to get another slice of pizza or go to the bathroom.

Go back and watch a MNF game from 1970 on Youtube.  Compared to today it moves along at glacier speed, the views are limited and so is everything else.

In addition to all the technological advances, I think the league sees the viewers as ADHD kids where the game is a pinball machine with lots of action, bells and whistles to keep them entertained. This all started to change after SB-V when the Colts beat the Cowboys 16-13.  It was low scoring a tough defensive game.  Low scoring doesn't sell jackets and jerseys.  So the next year the league passed rules in defense coverage that opened up the passing game to make it more exciting.

Anyway that's how I see it.
I could be wrong.


Wow, you counted 16 cutaways of Taylor Swift.  You could become an NFL Statistician!
Dude that's some serious TV game broadcast breakdown. Well done. Yeah I enjoy watching some old games on YouTube and you are 100% correct they move very slow compared to today.

This year I took my wife to the Dolphins Raiders game and she asked me why are they standing around why aren't they not running another play? I said they have to get all the commercials squeezed in it's all controlled by the TV timeline.

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Re: Super Bowl
« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2024, 01:40:45 PM »

I enjoyed looking at Blake Lively more than Taylor Swift.
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