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CVO Technical => Cleaning/Detailing => Topic started by: HarleyGirl on August 22, 2005, 08:46:53 PM
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My boot heel must have hit my hot pipes and now I have a black mark on my pipe. I was wondering it anyone new how to get this off with out scratching. I asked a few people and they told me it wouldn't come off. I am hoping someone will no what to do.
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easyoff oven cleaner
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In the past I have used a propane torch to melt the plastic and gingerly wipe with a soft rag. Now I use one of those Kuryakyn guards that bolts to the floorboard and keeps boot from hitting the pipe. Had quite a few boots that had the heels modified by accident.
Jerry
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The melted boot is pretty brittle. I have good luck with a razor blade. The chrome is hard enough the blade isn't really a threat.
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I've successfully used superfine (0000) steel wool in the past. Gently rub it (when cool) and it won't damage the chrome at all. In extreme cases where there's hunks of burned-on plastic or rubber, you should first carefully trim off the big pieces with a razor blade. I've also found that some WD-40 on the steel wool helps some, too.
When the heel stuff's gone, use some chrome polish over the affected area and you're done.
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Leave em on there!! shows your riding....
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easyoff oven cleaner
Ditto for the oven cleaner. I spary it on leave it for a while then wipe off. Might have to do it a couple of times. (Watch the over spay), Let's Roll
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Try some Mothers Chrome Polish (other chrome polish/cleaners may work also). I have used it before to remove boot scuffs on my pipes with success. Make sure pipes are cool to the touch and use a soft polishing cloth to apply and remove polish. Good luck.
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Fired00d
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Good enough reason to change to some aftermarket pipes! [smiley=confused5.gif] [smiley=nixweiss.gif]
But if you dont feel like spending the money go down to your local hardware store and get some 0000 steel wool. It will take the black off the chrome without scratching it.
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I USE A LITTLE OF ALL THE SUGGESTIONS.
SOAK WITH DUPONT CHROME POLISH AND USE A FRESH SHARP RAZOR BLADE. I'VE FOUND OUT FROM PAST EXPERIENCE THAT A USED DULL BLADE WILL LEAVE MINUTE MARKS IN THE CHROME THAT WILL SHOW UP UNDER DIRECT LIGHT. HAD RAIN SUIT
PANTS(TOO BIG) MELT DOWN ON HEADER PIPE AND THE OVEN CLEANER COULDN'T CUT IT.
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On a new bike you will get particles of the rubber belt that get melted on the pipes during break-in. To get that off, I have used the 0000 steel wool method (along with a heat gun to soften the gunk up) and I ended up with very, very fine scratches as well. Not bad, but like HARLEYBILL says, it does show up in the right light. I think I will try the oven cleaner route the next time. I have heard a bunch of folks now say that it works like a charm.
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On a new bike you will get particles of the rubber belt that get melted on the pipes during break-in.
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BLM, you're saying that process will take the scratches out of the chrome, or are you saying to do that to get the boot marks off, or both?
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BLM, you're saying that process will take the scratches out of the chrome, or are you saying to do that to get the boot marks off, or both?
Boot marks, tar, melted rainsuits etc. Only thing I use for chrome scratches is Mothers, a soft flannel cloth and verrry light buffing.
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The melted boot is pretty brittle.
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"On a new bike you will get particles of the rubber belt that get melted on the pipes during break-in...."
You better check your rear wheel alignment!
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"On a new bike you will get particles of the rubber belt that get melted on the pipes during break-in...."
You better check your rear wheel alignment!
Yep. Had 'em do that on both the E-glides I've owned and everything was cool. The worst happens within the first couple hundred miles. After that, the debris gets a lot less to the point where it's all but gone at about 500 miles. Actually, I'm just guessing it was from the belt. Don't know what else would cause the phenomenon. [smiley=nixweiss.gif]
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Yep.
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My rain suit melted on my header pipe at sturgis and the next day at J and P there was a guy selling a metal polish and cleaner called BAM. I asked him about my pipe and he said to wheel the bike around. There was quite a blob on the header pipe. This stuff took it right off by the use of the polish/cleaner and a soft rag. Unbelevable. I sure as hell wouldn't want to get it on my paint.
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BAM...... I sure as hell wouldn't want to get it on my paint.
Even worse than loctite and leather?
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BRAKE CLEANER--Its cleaning fluid like at the dry cleaners.
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I sell a product called Ouator at my NAPA store it is pronounced water. It works great it is a metal polish and wont harm chrome copper or brass. It causes a chemical reaction rather than abrasive action. DelNel [smiley=beerchug.gif]
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Thanks for the advice. I think I will try the oven easy off since I have that in the kitchen. I don't think is the belt because I have 2000 miles on the bike and Maverick, I have a vance and hines 2 & 1 header.
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I rode to sturgis & back over 3600 miles round trip. some how in the first 400 miles I ended up with black heel marks on the pipe. Rode the rest of the trip with no way of cleaning the marks off. By the time I got home I thought the heel marks would never come off with out scratching the chrome. I had some PJ1 super cleaner that I spray on the engine & brakes to get the road grime off before washing.Took the cleaner & sprayed some into A rag & started rubing on the heel marks & the cleaner cut right thru it. GOOD AS NEW. TRY PJ1 SUPER CLEANER. [smiley=huepfenjump3.gif] [smiley=huepfenjump3.gif] [smiley=banana.gif]
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Okay, so this is a technique that no one else has mentioned that I know works and leaves no scratches.
Get the pipes nice and warmed up (hot), then use a piece of soft wood, balsa or anything semi soft. Stick the wood against the pipe and the wood will burn a little, just like wood burning, but it will pull the marks right off the pipes and into the wood.
May sound funny but it is easy and it works better than anything when other ways have failed.
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Thanks for the advice.
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denatured alchol works great
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May not help getting them off, but keep from getting them on! try:http://www.heelguard.com/
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If the rubber is thick use a razor blade, then use S-100 works like a champ.
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HarleyGirl,
The only way I've found (with out scratching the chrome) is a cotton wadding product called Never Dull (comes in a blue can). It has metal polish in the wadding material that literally disolves the rubber or what ever. You have to work it a bit (better yet, lay a piece in the spot for 5 minutes and then just wipe it off). Try it, you'll be amazed.
Before I met Mrs._Beagle, I dated a bunch of non-riding chicks and no doubt....every ride had boot marks on the pipes....once so bad, she melted the boots so bad she wound up throwing them out. Take my word, this stuff is only like $5/can......you won't be sorry.
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HarleyGirl,
The only way I've found (with out scratching the chrome) is a cotton wadding product called Never Dull (comes in a blue can). It has metal polish in the wadding material that literally disolves the rubber or what ever. You have to work it a bit (better yet, lay a piece in the spot for 5 minutes and then just wipe it off). Try it, you'll be amazed.
Before I met Mrs._Beagle, I dated a bunch of non-riding chicks and no doubt....every ride had boot marks on the pipes....once so bad, she melted the boots so bad she wound up throwing them out. Take my word, this stuff is only like $5/can......you won't be sorry.
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and it been around for 100 years, didn't know there was anyone who never heard of never dull!!!!! ;D
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It's been around for 100 years because it works!! JMHO
_Beagle
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http://www.roadrub.comThis product is awsome takes off everything so far and takes hardly any effort. [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]
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ftp://www.roadrub.comThis product is awsome takes off everything so far and takes hardly any effort. [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]
Try using the "insert hyperlink" tag instead of the "insert ftp link" tag. The sites you're directing us to our web pages not FTP sites.
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Try using the "insert hyperlink" tag instead of the "insert ftp link" tag. The sites you're directing us to our web pages not FTP sites.
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Fired00d
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Disregard, you got it now. [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]
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http://www.roadrub.comThis product is awsome takes off everything so far and takes hardly any effort. [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]
You reckon some Speed Stick would work just as well? [smiley=huepfenlol2.gif]
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You reckon some Speed Stick would work just as well? [smiley=huepfenlol2.gif]
Can you imagine if you got the two confused with the other? [smiley=nixweiss.gif] What a mess and smell that would be. [smiley=nervous.gif] [smiley=huepfenlol2.gif]
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Thats what I thought the first time I used it (Roadrub). Its like using deoderant on your bike it rolls out like speedstick. Just roll it out and rub back and forth on the problem area and burned rubber, plastic,ect vanishes. No kidding this is some great product. I used to use the old ovencleaner method or sos but lots of elbow grease and one time I did scratch my wifes vance&hines with the sos pad. [smiley=oops.gif] I never told her how it got there. This stuff is worth every penny.
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Can you imagine if you got the two confused with the other? [smiley=nixweiss.gif] What a mess and smell that would be. [smiley=nervous.gif] [smiley=huepfenlol2.gif]
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Worse yet would be putting the Road Rub in your arm pits...it it'll take rubber off chrome imagine what it would do to your underarm hair... :o :o
The stuff sounds good though...I have some boot marks on my new RH's :'( :'(
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Worse yet would be putting the Road Rub in your arm pits...it it'll take rubber off chrome imagine what it would do to your underarm hair... :o :o
The stuff sounds good though...I[highlight] have some boot marks on my new RH's[/highlight]
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Worse yet would be putting the Road Rub in your arm pits...it it'll take rubber off chrome imagine what it would do to your underarm hair... :o :o
The stuff sounds good though...I have some boot marks on my new RH's :'( :'(
Hmm, I don't want to know what it would/will do to underarm hair!! [smiley=nervous.gif] Uh oh, boot marks on the RH's already? :o Not to worry, this thread is full of great ways to get it off, w/o damaging pipes. [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]
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BHG
Unfortunately :-[ I left a chunk of the heel of my boot on TCnBham's (Terry's) Rinehart pipes that I gave him for Christmas. [smiley=nervous.gif] :( [smiley=oops.gif]. He was very sweet :-* about it and sent me to a hareware store to buy Nevr Dull, only costs about $5. [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif] Works great. [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif] Whew! I was a little [smiley=nervous.gif], but all's well that ends well. [smiley=banana.gif]
The other good news is that it was not my high heel (with "chrome") boots that lost part of the heel. [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]
Suzanne
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and it been around for 100 years, didn't know there was anyone who never heard of never dull!!!!! ;D
Beagle, I goofed a few days ago and ended up losing a chunk of my heel on Terry's Rinehart's that I gave him for Christmas. [smiley=oops.gif] I'm VERY cafeful getting on and off the bike not to mess up the chrome [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif], however, since the weather has gotten colder and I'm wearing several layers plus chaps, I feel like a cow trying to throw my leg over the bike. ;D Kind of awkward, so that's my story and I'm sticking to it ... that's why I kicked the pipe, lost part of the heel of my boot, and left it on the pipe. ::)
The Never Dull worked great! Whew! [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]
Like I told BHG, the other good news is that I lost a chunk of heel off the "daytime" riding boots, not the high heel "party" boots! [smiley=banana.gif]
Suzanne
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I just drive for a while till all the volatile stuff is gone. Then its just carbon left, and easy to scrape off.
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Beagle, I goofed a few days ago and ended up losing a chunk of my heel on Terry's Rinehart's that I gave him for Christmas.
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I agree Never Dull works like a charm, I have a can on hand all the time, great on chrome hope this helps
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Okay, so this is a technique that no one else has mentioned that I know works and leaves no scratches.
Get the pipes nice and warmed up (hot), then use a piece of soft wood, balsa or anything semi soft. Stick the wood against the pipe and the wood will burn a little, just like wood burning, but it will pull the marks right off the pipes and into the wood.
May sound funny but it is easy and it works better than anything when other ways have failed.
I've used the oven cleaner sprayed into a cloth as soon as stopping the bike, and it mostly works, and I've used the razor, and it is scary, but mostly works, and the never dull, and it mostly works. All kinds of chrome cleaners and they kinda work too. But this burning wood idea sound pretty cool. :bananarock: Thanks for the great tips. I seem to be way to fidgety. I have the heel guard on my floor board, but then I just use it sometimes as a heel rest, and the inevetable black mark on pipes happens. I've also been known to melt the strap to my camera bag on them. Melted a couple of microfibre cleaning cloths too. So, my poor pipes have been used and abused. Good thing there are folks like you out here that can help us heel mark challenged riders out of the black rubber jam, so to speak. ;D
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I've used the oven cleaner sprayed into a cloth as soon as stopping the bike, and it mostly works, and I've used the razor, and it is scary, but mostly works, and the never dull, and it mostly works. All kinds of chrome cleaners and they kinda work too. But this burning wood idea sound pretty cool. :bananarock: Thanks for the great tips. I seem to be way to fidgety. I have the heel guard on my floor board, but then I just use it sometimes as a heel rest, and the inevetable black mark on pipes happens. I've also been known to melt the strap to my camera bag on them. Melted a couple of microfibre cleaning cloths too. So, my poor pipes have been used and abused. Good thing there are folks like you out here that can help us heel mark challenged riders out of the black rubber jam, so to speak. ;D
MrsWe...I did the microfiber thing the other day, and then spent the next 30 minutes undoing my brain poot with Never Dull. Lesson learned... ;)
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Ive read this in another forum and tried it myself.
Your friendly neighborhood Home Depot or the like, in the plumbing isle.
PVC pipe cleaner, works like a champ.
I would suggest NOT using the cheesy sponge and wire applicator attatched to the can lid.
I poured it on an old diaper, sponged it on and pretty much, am able to effortlessly wipe off the nappy gunk.
works great and its cheap.
you folks that keep yer hogs in the may wont to attempt this outside the fumes are pretty strong.
gnewcomer
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Ive read this in another forum and tried it myself.
Your friendly neighborhood Home Depot or the like, in the plumbing isle.
PVC pipe cleaner, works like a champ.
I would suggest NOT using the cheesy sponge and wire applicator attatched to the can lid.
I poured it on an old diaper, sponged it on and pretty much, am able to effortlessly wipe off the nappy gunk.
works great and its cheap.
you folks that keep yer hogs in the house, may want to attempt this outside the fumes are pretty strong.
gnewcomer
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Get some highway bars to keep yer feet away from the pipes. :)
I've successfully used Mother's chrome polish to remove melted foam peanuts and road tar.
I'm sure the Nevr-Dull method will work too. That's great stuff...used it to polish my brass in the Navy.
Be careful using Nevr-Dull on clear-coated chrome elsewhere on the bike. Mule hoof-prints and chocolate sprinkles are a b%$ch to remove.
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Ive read this in another forum and tried it myself.
Your friendly neighborhood Home Depot or the like, in the plumbing isle.
PVC pipe cleaner, works like a champ.
I would suggest NOT using the cheesy sponge and wire applicator attatched to the can lid.
I poured it on an old diaper, sponged it on and pretty much, am able to effortlessly wipe off the nappy gunk.
works great and its cheap.
you folks that keep yer hogs in the may wont to attempt this outside the fumes are pretty strong.
gnewcomer
I tried this today. Didn't work. I tried it on both bikes. 1st bike the pipes were hot and it took a little piece off. Then I tried it on the SEUC2 w/ cold pipes and it didn't work at all. I may try that SOS pad trick.
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Does that steel wool really work?? Just something about steel wool on chrome that bothers me. In my mind, I picture it scratching the heck out of it.
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Does that steel wool really work?? Just something about steel wool on chrome that bothers me. In my mind, I picture it scratching the heck out of it.
DS, I questioned it also. In another thread, Spiderman said it works. If it scratches them I'll just send them out to Calif.
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I tried this today. Didn't work. I tried it on both bikes. 1st bike the pipes were hot and it took a little piece off. Then I tried it on the SEUC2 w/ cold pipes and it didn't work at all. I may try that SOS pad trick.
Parts guy at our local hd dealer told me to use oven cleaner. I was skeptical to say the least, not that it wouldn't work but worried about what the oven cleaner would do to the chrome. I have also seen someone else on this site mention it. I know for a fact that it works as I had the black heel problem a few times, until I just went out and bought my girlfriend a new pair of boots. lol. Have also seen it work on another bike. Buy a can of the easy off oven cleaner. Spray a small amount of it on pipe while cold. Start up bike and let pipe warm. Then just wipe off. I can't say for sure that it will work on yours but I can say I have seen it work at least 5 times. Good luck, jj.
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:huepfenjump3: Does it remove mule hoof prints and chocolate sprinkles? :huepfenjump3:
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I tried this today. Didn't work. I tried it on both bikes. 1st bike the pipes were hot and it took a little piece off. Then I tried it on the SEUC2 w/ cold pipes and it didn't work at all. I may try that SOS pad trick.
Hmm sorry it didnt work for ya ... Honestly, I'd be horrified to try the sos pad, unless I actually got to see it work +on somebody elses bike+.
I went an looked, the product I bought was Oatey's PVC/ABS pipe cleaner.
I looked at the suspect boot's (wife's cheezy plastic heeled boots).
So I do know that this stuff works good on plastic products. I havent gotten my harley boots on the pipes yet so Im not sure at this point, if it will in fact remove the melted rubber from these types.
gn
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Hmm sorry it didnt work for ya ... Honestly, I'd be horrified to try the sos pad, unless I actually got to see it work +on somebody elses bike+.
I went an looked, the product I bought was Oatey's PVC/ABS pipe cleaner.
I looked at the suspect boot's (wife's cheezy plastic heeled boots).
So I do know that this stuff works good on plastic products. I havent gotten my harley boots on the pipes yet so Im not sure at this point, if it will in fact remove the melted rubber from these types.
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Well Unbalenced was the one who 'suggested' that I touch my pipe with my Harley boot to see if it was loose. So, the rubber sole of the Harley boot may be of a different compound than another type of shoe. The Service Manager in Sav said to try Oven Off. I'm going this route before the SOS pad.
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Okay, so this is a technique that no one else has mentioned that I know works and leaves no scratches.
Get the pipes nice and warmed up (hot), then use a piece of soft wood, balsa or anything semi soft. Stick the wood against the pipe and the wood will burn a little, just like wood burning, but it will pull the marks right off the pipes and into the wood.
May sound funny but it is easy and it works better than anything when other ways have failed.
I'm with SAC on this. I haven't tried the wood, but i'll bet it would work well.
I use a propane torch to carefully heat the pipe or exhaust shield, and then use a facecloth to remove the heavy built up deposits. When the heavy stuff has been removed, I use Simichrome polish to remove the film that remains. This method will not scratch the chrome.
You must be carefull not to overheat the pipe with the torch or it will permanently discolor the chrome. Heat the pipe with a moving flame until you can wipe the rubber or nylon material from the pipe with firm pressure. This works for a melted rain suit as well.
djkak
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I guess my attempt at humor was lame.
Good luck removing the boot rubber.
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I guess my attempt at humor was lame.
Good luck removing the boot rubber.
It's funny, :) but you would think that after awhile the ratio of failed humor attempts to home runs would improve. I'll lay some of my best stuff out there, and often get it stuffed right up the ol' caboose.
Don't stop trying.
BTW, for what it's worth, it was way over my head. :)
djkak
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You should try the stuff,( GOOF OFF )It works great just soak your polishing cloth with it hold it on it for a couple min.wipe off if it's real thick just repat until gone then wax!Hope that works for ya it leaves no abrasion!!!
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You should try the stuff,( GOOF OFF )It works great just soak your polishing cloth with it hold it on it for a couple min.wipe off if it's real thick just repat until gone then wax!Hope that works for ya it leaves no abrasion!!!
Totally agree..... best stuff to use ... works EVERY time with no hassle, no scrubbing, no scratching ... AND you can do it when the pipes are cold. Remember to use a liberal amount and turn your cloth frequently. :2vrolijk_21:
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I was going to try the Goof Off but by the time I got to the hardware store they were closed. So, after the pipes cooled down a little, I tried to scratch it off with my finger again. This time it worked. I guess the repeated heating burnt most of it off. There is a small amount still visible so I may try it tomorrow.
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It will it's great stuff! GOOD LUCK
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Another product to add to the stuff on the cleaner shelf - Goo Off.
May need to start another cleaner shelf soon..... ;D
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Totally agree..... best stuff to use ... works EVERY time with no hassle, no scrubbing, no scratching ... AND you can do it when the pipes are cold. Remember to use a liberal amount and turn your cloth frequently. :2vrolijk_21:
Couldn't agree more! This stuff is great. I use a small sheet of a paper towel soaked thoroughly with Goof Off and lay it over the rubber marks and let it soak for a while (the paper towel works great at keeping the product where you want it). Come back later and wipe it clean with a soft cloth and Voila! Ms. Bear is always letting her foot drop onto the pipes and leaving her mark. I've become pretty familiar with this cleaning routine, and I must say, it works great. I have started using the "Glare" polish after cleanup and it seems to clean up much easier on the subsequent occasion!
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I've had a pair of the Harley lace up boots for a long time, and since I've had those boots, heal marks on the pipes aren't a problem. A couple a weeks back, we we're heading off for a three day ride to Palo Duro Canyon, and lot's of rain was in the forecast, so I decided to wear an old pair of boots that were slip ons, not lace up, thinking they might be drier. They were, but when I got home, I had boot marks all over the right pipe. After reading this thread, I used the new razor blade method, whith a little goof off added. Came off very easy. Never would have believed it. It must have been over 1/8 of an inch thick. Guess it says something about the quality of the Harley boots too.
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I've had this problem also. I started by using a heat gun get the pipes nice and hot, then I used a Popsicle stick to lightly remove as much of the hard plastic as possable. I then let the pipes cool down and use a good solvent remover like 3M adhesive remover or PPT paint prep. Remember the chrome on our bikes isn't like the chrome on your cars bumper (its very thin) you will scratch it if you use a razor our any harsh chrome cleaner. They also have blue be gone for pipes and simi chrome you can purchase these at any Bike shop....
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Before trying some of the more aggressive suggestions like using Acid, Goo, Razorblade, and such, try cleaning the burn mark area first with a good degreaser (GLARE Turbo Action Wheel Cleaner is an Excellent choice since it is a non acid formula). Next give the burn mark a good rubdown using the GLARE Knockout Compound, dig deep to get it all out. That normally works 9 out of ten times, and its always best to try the safer route first before trying something that could scratch up and ruin your pipes like razorblades, acid and what not. In the worst case scenario if it doesn't work, you'll have the best scratch and oxidation remover for your paint in your arsenal for when you need it, then you can always try plan B which would be the razorblade and some acid LOL! (and even if you do in fact have to resort to plan B you can use the GLARE Knockout to remove any residual burn stains that may be left on the pipe). But Im sure that it will work and that you wont have to resort to plan B and bust out the blowtorch. LOL! 8)
You can buy it here:
www.glare.com
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Hey GlarePro, Sounds like great advice. I am going to have to get me some of this Glare products. After hearing so much about it and not able to keep my own feet off my own pipes, I can use something less abrasive than the over cleaner I've been using. :cherry: