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[BaggerDave]

I've wrestled with myself for months on whether or not to try one of the may bracing systems available, but held off until I saw this product.
The design and quality looked far superior to anything else on the market.
Well, I took the leap of faith after talking to the owner Ron. He was friendly, knowledgeable, sincere, and offered a 100% money back if I wasn't thrilled.
Well, let me tell you, I AM THRILLED.
This is a beautifully designed and manufactured piece that really does what it claims. No more waffling in the turns, no low or high speed wobbles, no looseness going over potholes or railroad tracks. It's GREAT!
I never knew a Bagger could handle like a Sportbike, but that's how the bike feels now. Even low speed turns feel more confident.
I strongly recommend it, and suggest you buy it before his price goes up. It is a bargain!

[sawyerghost]

Do you have a website or Ph. Number for this?

[BaggerDave]

Sorry, here you go!
http://bitchinbaggers.com/products/bagger-brace/
Phone: (480) 967-7588 

[porthole]

Looks nice.

All of these units claim the same thing and all the rider-installers feel they work well.

But once you spent 300+ for one design you are hard pressed to throw it away and put the next latest greatest design on.

I would be curious to see a definitive test on the 4 major players here and see who wins. If the improvement was significant I would be willing to try it. For those of us that have the Ride Str8 though that would mean buying new parts for the ones you returned for the core charge.

[sportygordy]

I dont know??? I think i like the TRW version as it does not mess with the ground clearance. Just ordered one from Tracy, actually two. I like the stealth appeal of his.

[erniezap]

Dave,

Are you noticing any more vibration since the engine is now mechanically connected to the frame?

[SCRM-R]

I've wrestled with myself for months on whether or not to try one of the may bracing systems available, but held off until I saw this product.
The design and quality looked far superior to anything else on the market.
Well, I took the leap of faith after talking to the owner Ron. He was friendly, knowledgeable, sincere, and offered a 100% money back if I wasn't thrilled.
Well, let me tell you, I AM THRILLED.
This is a beautifully designed and manufactured piece that really does what it claims. No more waffling in the turns, no low or high speed wobbles, no looseness going over potholes or railroad tracks. It's GREAT!
I never knew a Bagger could handle like a Sportbike, but that's how the bike feels now. Even low speed turns feel more confident.
I strongly recommend it, and suggest you buy it before his price goes up. It is a bargain!

Could you possibly post the installation instructions?  I would like to see what is involved in installing before pulling the trigger. Thanks.

[BaggerDave]

No vibration issues at all.
Installation is very easy, but I can't post them as they are printed and included in the box.
Maybe Ron will post here!

[Sean M Cary]

wonder if they will do a group buy price?

[sawyerghost]

I agree with Florida Marine,
I would be interested in a Group Buy as well!

[sawyerghost]

Hi Sporty Gordy,

Can you give me informationon the TRW version that you like?

[iski]

May be interested in a group buy price also.  From the pics, the install looks very clean & no ground clearance issues.

[BaggerDave]

You folks should call Ron and talk to him.
He can explain the technical difference in his and why it works better.
To me its simple. Its solid, its quality, and it works exactly as claimed!
I am more than happy with the money I spent on this. He deserves the business.

[iski]

You folks should call Ron and talk to him.
He can explain the technical difference in his and why it works better.
To me its simple. Its solid, its quality, and it works exactly as claimed!
I am more than happy with the money I spent on this. He deserves the business.

Did it only take 45 minutes to install, as the website claims?

[J-Carr]

You could count me in on a group buy on this as well.  It looks so much better then the other products I've seen and since Bagger Dave has tried it we know it works, as do the others.  But it's significantly less expensive.

Ride Safe,
J-Carr

[BaggerDave]

Here's a quick photo of it on my bike.
(I think I need to wash my rear tire and wheel, huh!) 

[RBFB]

I just ordered one, looks good. I will post my opinion once it's on.

[sawyerghost]

I just spoke with Ron, at Bagger Brace. He stated that he can do (free shiping for us) But at this time he is slim on his margin.
He explains that it works, and is very easy to mount.

[2PAK]

I put the True-Track on last week and have noticed a differance as well.  In town, my bike seems a little more steady when I come accross a tar snake in the roadway.  On the curves, granted these are suburb/hill curves so nothing radical, the back end seems more glued to the payment.

Like was stated earlier, they all work on the same principal and I'm sure all are good.  Probably some are less expensive than others.  My personal opinion is that its not a 15 minute job but more like an hour assuming your bike is in alignment and no cross member is bent to start with...

[Chief]

Looks nice.

All of these units claim the same thing and all the rider-installers feel they work well.

But once you spent 300+ for one design you are hard pressed to throw it away and put the next latest greatest design on.

I would be curious to see a definitive test on the 4 major players here and see who wins. If the improvement was significant I would be willing to try it. For those of us that have the Ride Str8 though that would mean buying new parts for the ones you returned for the core charge.

Duane,

I don't think there are clear winners as I believe they all do work about the same. If you have the Ride-Str8, I don't think you'd see improvement by switching. They're all functional, you just have to pick the one you like best.

[sportygordy]

Hi Sporty Gordy,

Can you give me informationon the TRW version that you like?

Daaa,, I got the R and W backwards..     It is TWR Stabilizer. 

This is Tracy's site. I think a lot of folks were happy with this. I've read nothing but good on HD-Forums as well. But like what Chief points out, they are all functional for the same purpose. I think the price tag and personal preference is the key. After seeing some additional pictures i don't think the ground clearance is an issue with Bagger Dave's as i stated earlier. 

http://www.twrbaggersplus.com/Stabilizerkits.html

[porthole]

I don't think there are clear winners as I believe they all do work about the same. If you have the Ride-Str8, I don't think you'd see improvement by switching. They're all functional, you just have to pick the one you like best.

Agree on all points. At the time the Ride Str8 was the only unit that did not interfere with the bike jack either. The brackets that bolt up into the the dogbone use the space that I set the jack at.

[brewnut56]

Could you possibly post the installation instructions?  I would like to see what is involved in installing before pulling the trigger. Thanks.

I emailed them directly and asked for a copy of the installation instructions.

Here they are . . . .

p.s. Will the brace that mounts inside the crossmember interfere with using a motorcycle lift??

[maineultraclassic]

p.s. Will the brace that mounts inside the crossmember interfere with using a motorcycle lift??

Why would it, the lift has a flat surface on it so it would just press on the brace.

My lift doesn't fit inside the frame crossmember, so to have the brace inside it would be better for me.

Steve

[grc]

Why would it, the lift has a flat surface on it so it would just press on the brace.

My lift doesn't fit inside the frame crossmember, so to have the brace inside it would be better for me.

Steve

With many (most?) lifts, the rear arm sits in the channel of the dog bone.  This is the best balance point for standard sized jacks, and placing the arm in the channel also helps keep the bike from sliding around on the jack once it's elevated.  When you fill that channel with one of these devices, the jack will have to either be moved forward to miss the bracket or be allowed to contact the new bracket.  Either will affect the balance point and the leveling of the bike.

One other consideration, this also eliminates the ability to install other accessories which fit in that dog bone such as a center stand.  Another thing to look at is the loss of clearance at the oil pan.  From the photo's in the instructions it looks like the trans pan bracket would reduce ground clearance by nearly an inch.  May be acceptable on a standard height bike, but since I've already dragged the pan on my SEEG more than once over whoops in parking lots I don't think this thing would be a great idea on a lowered bike.  Other alternatives I've seen don't hang down this much.

Just some things to think about when comparing products.  As noted earlier, they all will have a similar affect, just different ways to a similar result.

Jerry

[BaggerDave]

Anybody else have theirs installed yet?
I'd love to hear if you all agree with my review!

[Twolanerider]

Couldn't tell with any certainty from the photos.  Does the brace anywhere or in any way hang lower than the frame rails?

[RBFB]

Anybody else have theirs installed yet?
I'd love to hear if you all agree with my review!

I haven't got mine yet, I called them and said they were out of some parts and shipping this week.

[Twolanerider]

Couldn't tell with any certainty from the photos.  Does the brace anywhere or in any way hang lower than the frame rails?

Answering myself here.  Must be the voices.  Anyway....

Just got an email from the mftr.  States that with this unit installed the the dogbone is still the lowest point.  That being so speed bumps or Evel Kneiveling the occasional curb would be no more hazard than they were to begin with.

[Sean M Cary]

Answering myself here.  Must be the voices.  Anyway....

Just got an email from the mftr.  States that with this unit installed the the dogbone is still the lowest point.  That being so speed bumps or Evel Kneiveling the occasional curb would be no more hazard than they were to begin with.

Don, you think it will make the use of my J&S Jack harder/out of the question?  I would go the ride str8 if that was the case...too much $$ for the jack, and I love the damn thing since it is so stable.

I e-mailed them last night, no response yet.

Sean

[KODAGRIN]

LOOKS LIKE THE BRACE MIGHT INTERFERE WITH MY SERVICE LIFT BY FILLING IN THE SPACE OF THE CROSSMEMBER...resulting in less security while lifted and raising the rear of the bike out of level.

[Twolanerider]

Don, you think it will make the use of my J&S Jack harder/out of the question?  I would go the ride str8 if that was the case...too much $$ for the jack, and I love the damn thing since it is so stable.

I e-mailed them last night, no response yet.

Sean

Sean, with the exception of this most recent one I've had all the different iterations of this part in hand at one time or another.  Honestly man I've seen nothing to gain religion about one way or another.

They might effect their gain in slightly different ways.  But in the end they seem to accomplish the same task.  That being said if there was any question about it impacting the stability of that nice jack you've got I'd just get a different unit.  Just no sense in even quietly asking for a problem or nuisance to crop up when it can be easily (and still effectively) avoided.

[Sean M Cary]

Sean, with the exception of this most recent one I've had all the different iterations of this part in hand at one time or another.  Honestly man I've seen nothing to gain religion about one way or another.

They might effect their gain in slightly different ways.  But in the end they seem to accomplish the same task.  That being said if there was any question about it impacting the stability of that nice jack you've got I'd just get a different unit.  Just no sense in even quietly asking for a problem or nuisance to crop up when it can be easily (and still effectively) avoided.

check - glad the ride str8 is out there then!

[RBFB]

Ok, I received my Bagger Brace today, installation was easy. It doesn't really change the ground clearance because the brace is well above the cross member piece.

I went an rode it for a while and I really think it improved the handling. I really didn't think I had problems before, but I really like the way it feels now. I have a 08' with the front torque arm off the frame, perhaps without that it makes more of a difference. But I am happy so far with it.

I think all these braces do the same thing, but this piece is nice in my opinion.

[Sean M Cary]

Ok, I received my Bagger Brace today, installation was easy. It doesn't really change the ground clearance because the brace is well above the cross member piece.

I went an rode it for a while and I really think it improved the handling. I really didn't think I had problems before, but I really like the way it feels now. I have a 08' with the front torque arm off the frame, perhaps without that it makes more of a difference. But I am happy so far with it.

I think all these braces do the same thing, but this piece is nice in my opinion.

do you have a jack that goes into the dog bone?

[Spike]

I saw a guy that I work with yesterday and first thing I do is ask him if he's been riding any. He's says that he had crashed his bike going about 55 mph do to high speed wobble. He's OK but the bike will need some work. He took the the swingarm off and the bearings were destroyed. He's under the impression that the worn out swingarm bearings is what causes the the wobble. If that's the case then everyone should be ponying up for a brace to avoid this problem. Right now, Bagger Dave's looks pretty darn good to me.

[RBFB]

After 400 miles, I really like the improved handling. No, I don't have jack that goes into the center brace.

[FLTRCVO]

I've wrestled with myself for months on whether or not to try one of the may bracing systems available, but held off until I saw this product.
The design and quality looked far superior to anything else on the market.
Well, I took the leap of faith after talking to the owner Ron. He was friendly, knowledgeable, sincere, and offered a 100% money back if I wasn't thrilled.
Well, let me tell you, I AM THRILLED.
This is a beautifully designed and manufactured piece that really does what it claims. No more waffling in the turns, no low or high speed wobbles, no looseness going over potholes or railroad tracks. It's GREAT!
I never knew a Bagger could handle like a Sportbike, but that's how the bike feels now. Even low speed turns feel more confident.
I strongly recommend it, and suggest you buy it before his price goes up. It is a bargain!

Upon your review and my talking with Ron (nice guy), who seems to be extremely kmowledgeable, I ordered the Bagger Brace for $289.00 with free shipping.

[Dan_Lockwood]

I saw a guy that I work with yesterday and first thing I do is ask him if he's been riding any. He's says that he had crashed his bike going about 55 mph do to high speed wobble. He's OK but the bike will need some work. He took the the swingarm off and the bearings were destroyed. He's under the impression that the worn out swingarm bearings is what causes the the wobble. If that's the case then everyone should be ponying up for a brace to avoid this problem. Right now, Bagger Dave's looks pretty darn good to me.

What does the Bagger Brace have to do with worn out swingarm bearings?  If bearings are bad and the swingarm is loose and allowed to twist, the brace will not help.  IMO.

Also with bad swingarm bearings, the will not only twist axially with the bike but under load from the chain or belt the swingarm will pull forward on the dive side causing the rear wheel to steer a bit.  Kind of like bump steer on a car, but from the throttle in and off again etc.

From what I've read, most touring bikes in new or good condition will only show this deathly trait at triple digit speeds like Hoist said.  I actually tried my '08 SERK this year at Sturgis to see what would happen.  I was riding solo and was able to do both left and right hand sweepers at over 100 for short periods.  I found nothing that seemed to be the wobble, so on my '08 with the upper front link it may be better than the previous '07 and earlier models.

I'm not saying that a bit of bracing of some kind wouldn't hurt the "feel" at normal driving speeds and maybe I would notice a bit more sure footedness in the low speed curves, but I'm not having issues now anyway.  If I were to ride a bike like mine with a brace, I'm sure I may feel something different and eventually decide to bite the bullet and do one.

On the other hand I've ridden bikes without the IDS and find them very choppy and jerky at lower rpms in town type riding and I'm very glad I have the IDS on my '08.  If I were one of the guys without it and rode my bike, I'm sure the difference might be worth the $300 to get one.  In my opinion the brace is like the IDS, at least for my application.  I"m happy with the way mine handles now and it still feels tight and very controllable to me.

I guess you could compare it to the handling differences between a '96 Caprice and a '96 Impala SS.  Each are safe, but the Impala has a higher tuned suspension and could out curve the Caprice with one wheel tied in the trunk.  I guess at my age I'm more a Caprice kind of guy rather than my earlier days being an Impala SS kind of guy.

Sorry for rambling, but as usual my fingers got to moving and I couldn't stop them... 

[Spike]

My friend's reasoning was that the worn out bearings were allowing too much movement in the rear end thus not allowing the bike to track straight. I could be wrong but it would be the same scenario if the front end was too tight or too loose. I'm only repeating what he has told me since he's the one that had the high speed getoff. He's got his bike apart now and everything is leading him to believe that the bearings are the cause for the instability. The entire bike is one big tuning fork so if the swing arm is moving more than it should you are going to notice it. If the brace helps dampen or lesson the vibration or even aid in preventing flex in the rest of the chasiss then it has done it's job.

[Hoist!]

My friend's reasoning was that the worn out bearings were allowing too much movement in the rear end thus not allowing the bike to track straight. I could be wrong but it would be the same scenario if the front end was too tight or too loose. I'm only repeating what he has told me since he's the one that had the high speed getoff. He's got his bike apart now and everything is leading him to believe that the bearings are the cause for the instability.

Worn bearings will definitely cause instability. My neck bearings are shot, and I get it now, where I didn't before. I'll be pulling the fork this winter to replace them. These rubber mount bikes are a 2-edged sword too! On one hand, you get a much smoother feel and feel less vibration. On the other hand, any wear or flexing will cause instability. Keepin it tight is the only way to have a hope that you'll be stable!

Hoist!

[Gecko]

Upon your review and my talking with Ron (nice guy), who seems to be extremely kmowledgeable, I ordered the Bagger Brace for $289.00 with free shipping.

Ditto, order placed this afternoon.  It sounds like they are getting some business out of this site.   Objective review to follow if it doesn't snow before then.

[Sean M Cary]

can someone with a J & S jack and a brace (of any kind) tell me if you can still use the jack safely??

[grc]

I still think there are two different issues with the FLH platform that are being lumped together here.  First is the rear steer issue, which the various braces are designed to control by reducing the side movement of the rear powertrain mount (you'll still have some flex in the swing arm even with the braces).  The second is the actual high speed wobble, with the front end shaking enough to either scare the beejesus out of you or actually dump you on your butt.  That's the serious one, and I don't know that I've seen any evidence that the braces eliminate that problem.  And btw, it doesn't take triple digit speeds to encounter the high speed wobble on an eglide.  I've had it occur at around 85 mph, in a long sweeping curve after hitting a small bump.  

High speed wobbles aren't new to the world of two wheels, or exclusive to H-D baggers.  If you look at the typical racing or sport bike, you will usually find a device mounted between the frame and the front forks that looks like a miniature shock absorber.  That is a steering damper, and it's purpose is to dampen the oscillations of the front end to prevent a wobble from escalating.  Those bikes have steep rake angles which allow for quicker steering, but at a cost of less straight line stability.  The FLH has a steep rake and long trail which makes low speed maneuvering very easy (good for parade duty), but at the cost of less high speed stability.  Combine the inherent instability of the steep rake with the lack of damping, throw in a batwing fairing that transfers large lateral forces into the front suspension, and you have a recipe for wobble.  Having a little extra side movement from the rear end probably doesn't help the situation, but I don't believe a rock solid rear end would eliminate the wobble on the Harley.  The sport bikes tend to have a solidly mounted swing arm (and a much better suspension), and that definitely doesn't eliminate wobbles on those bikes.

Jerry

[spydglide]

Nice discription Jerry.  spyder

[TN]

i experienced a tank slapper yesterday, by far the worst i've had.

08 fltr tourglide,hd progressive 440's avon/venom tires.  opened it up really good on a long straight away. everything going well hit 120mph and let off throttle well around 70 er so she started wobbling and getting worse by the moment. got real serious for a bit

i hung on and started to weave slightly and came out of it. GOT MY ATTENTION!

these devices help here?



TN


been pondering on this for a few days and i maybe should have throttled out of it.

[FLTRCVO]

I purchased, installed and tested the Bagger Brace. Here is my review: Cost was acceptable being $100.00 less than the competitors; Quality of the manufacturing is excellent; Installation was 50 minutes without setting up the necessary tools; Instructions were clear and concise, thus, pretty much idiot proof; Road Tested, 119 mph on straight highway handling was absolute, reverse grade twisties at 75 mph (floor boards scraping) handling was absolute, traveled 50 miles with 30 - 35 mph crosswinds handling was absolute.

This is only my opinion / review, I am in no way associated with Bitchin Baggers and or Phoenix Customs

[Sean M Cary]

I purchased, installed and tested the Bagger Brace. Here is my review: Cost was acceptable being $100.00 less than the competitors; Quality of the manufacturing is excellent; Installation was 50 minutes without setting up the necessary tools; Instructions were clear and concise, thus, pretty much idiot proof; Road Tested, 119 mph on straight highway handling was absolute, reverse grade twisties at 75 mph (floor boards scraping) handling was absolute, traveled 50 miles with 30 - 35 mph crosswinds handling was absolute.

This is only my opinion / review, I am in no way associated with Bitchin Baggers and or Phoenix Customs

getting to sound like a broken record here...  Got a J&S or other jack that lifts from the dog bone?

[RBFB]

Whats the deal with the dog bone lifting spot? I have a crappy Sears jack and I put it across the dog bone for the rear lifting point when I changed my rear tire.  It worked fine. The Bagger Brace doesn't stick down any further than the brace itself, it's flush across the bottom, so if you place the rear lifting spot across the frame along the dog bone it didn't affect it in any way that I can tell.

[Sean M Cary]

Whats the deal with the dog bone lifting spot? I have a crappy Sears jack and I put it across the dog bone for the rear lifting point when I changed my rear tire.  It worked fine. The Bagger Brace doesn't stick down any further than the brace itself, it's flush across the bottom, so if you place the rear lifting spot across the frame along the dog bone it didn't affect it in any way that I can tell.

what I am wondering is if you CAN put the jack against it...  If not, that would negate some of the J&S's rock solid sturdiness.

I had a Sears jack, took it back the J&S is much better.

[FLTRCVO]

getting to sound like a broken record here...  Got a J&S or other jack that lifts from the dog bone?

I have the Handy table lift with the side extensions, same lift as the dealers.

[TN]

I purchased, installed and tested the Bagger Brace. Here is my review: Cost was acceptable being $100.00 less than the competitors; Quality of the manufacturing is excellent; Installation was 50 minutes without setting up the necessary tools; Instructions were clear and concise, thus, pretty much idiot proof; Road Tested, 119 mph on straight highway handling was absolute, reverse grade twisties at 75 mph (floor boards scraping) handling was absolute, traveled 50 miles with 30 - 35 mph crosswinds handling was absolute.

This is only my opinion / review, I am in no way associated with Bitchin Baggers and or Phoenix Customs

Bill, good review. have you used these type of devices before? it has my attention. i'm gonna try one on my 08fltr.

i hope the 09 doesn't need it.




TN

[FLTRCVO]

Bill, good review. have you used these type of devices before? it has my attention. i'm gonna try one on my 08fltr.

i hope the 09 doesn't need it.




TN

I have not used any of these devices prior to the Bagger Brace. I was not impressed with either material, design and or concept of other products. Again, as prevously stated this is my opinion / review, I am impressed with the construction of the Bagger Brace with regard to material, design / concept, installation instructions, cost along with the results of my evaluation. My selection involved concept, design, material, cost and ease of installation in that order.

[harliechick]

Of course it works because it's yet another duplication of the original stabilizer - True-Track. True-Track put 11 years of hard work into the R & D  before it was brought on the market and since then everyone has decided to duplicate their product in one form or another. Does your bagger brace come with a life time warranty?

[Twolanerider]

 Does your bagger brace come with a life time warranty?

It's not as if there's much to fail .

I don't even remember if mine is a True Track or a Ride Str8.  Just know it does its job enough to suit me.  Hard to get terribly concerned over more than that.

[FLTRCVO]

Of course it works because it's yet another duplication of the original stabilizer - True-Track. True-Track put 11 years of hard work into the R & D  before it was brought on the market and since then everyone has decided to duplicate their product in one form or another. Does your bagger brace come with a life time warranty?

Not quite clear if this is directed towards me, however, I stand by my opinion / assessment of the Bagger Brace after >3500 miles dealing with the winds of the desert. If memory serves me, I believe the Bagger Brace was considerably less expensive ($100.00) than other so-called comperable products on the market. The guarantee I have, "if for any reason you do not feel the Bagger Brace is not performing as advertised return it for a full refund". I do expect to pay the return shipping cost should this ever be the case, however, I do not see what could possibly result in my returning the product. As previously stated not much can fail.

Regarding Lifetime Warranty, please explain to me the specifics of such, should the company merge, sell, and or file BK. Would that be considered a less than lifetime warranty, if so, can I opt for that plan, and may I receive the discount for accepting that plan and then will the cost be comperable.

[Twolanerider]

Not quite clear if this is directed towards me, however, I stand by my opinion / assessment of the Bagger Brace after >3500 miles dealing with the winds of the desert. If memory serves me, I believe the Bagger Brace was considerably less expensive ($100.00) than other so-called comperable products on the market. The guarantee I have, "if for any reason you do not feel the Bagger Brace is not performing as advertised return it for a full refund". I do expect to pay the return shipping cost should this ever be the case, however, I do not see what could possibly result in my returning the product. As previously stated not much can fail.

Regarding Lifetime Warranty, please explain to me the specifics of such, should the company merge, sell, and or file BK. Would that be considered a less than lifetime warranty, if so, can I opt for that plan, and may I receive the discount for accepting that plan and then will the cost be comperable.

This may have come up previously.  A very quick scan didn't find it and the question is in my head now.  So....

Does the new bracket or any other unseen component get in the way of the tranny drain plug?  Or is it all still clear?

[FLTRCVO]

This may have come up previously.  A very quick scan didn't find it and the question is in my head now.  So....

Does the new bracket or any other unseen component get in the way of the tranny drain plug?  Or is it all still clear?

Still clear

[Twolanerider]

Still clear

Thanks.

[Eagleguy]

I've also installed the Bagger-Brace and I'm very happy with it! It's a much easier install than the others and it absolutely works! It's very well made and $100 cheaper. You can't go wrong with it!

[Red07]

Ordered mine today cant wait to see how it works, i have over 20,000 on my bike so it will be like having a new bike.

[DESERTBEAR54]

Does anyone with the Bagger-Brace have a center stand for there bike??? Can it be installed with a center stand??

[SCRM-R]

getting to sound like a broken record here...  Got a J&S or other jack that lifts from the dog bone?

I remember this question being asked a while back and now I am prepared to answer it.  Yesterday I received my Bagger Brace and installed it this morning.  It has been raining all night, and so far all day, so I have not had an opportunity to ride and test the Bagger Brace, but I CAN report that it does NOT interfere with the operation of the J&S Jack.  The jack slides up under the dog bone and lifts the bike as easily and as level as before.  The part of the Bagger Brace that fits into the dog bone is only about 1/4" thick, so all is well.  Incidentally, the Brace is as well made and easy to install as previously reported.  Fit and finish is excellent.  Now if it will just perform...we'll soon see.

[Red07]

Installed Bagger Brace Sunday haven't had a chance to ride it very much, went down the road a little ways from home seams to be more responsive. Install was very easy.

[colcop]

Maybe I have missed it, but can any of these Braces be fitted to a bike with a centre stand??
Santa would like to know so he can send me one...........
Cheers...

[MUFFMAN]

Got my Bagger Brace shipped on Friday. Installation was a breeze. My motorcycle jack works as well as before installation. Now, to get rid of this damn snow......   THE MUFFMAN

[Talon]

This might not be an issue, but from what I can see from the photos, the Bagger Brace looks like it's connecting point is in the middle of the trans. I was wondering if this would be a issue. Most of the others connect to the read and to me this would make them resist the twisting (side to side) motion of the trans in relation to the swing arm pivot point. Maybe I'm wrong, but without looking I can't tell. Any comment on this by someone who has this unit?
 

[Red07]

This might not be an issue, but from what I can see from the photos, the Bagger Brace looks like it's connecting point is in the middle of the trans. I was wondering if this would be a issue. Most of the others connect to the read and to me this would make them resist the twisting (side to side) motion of the trans in relation to the swing arm pivot point. Maybe I'm wrong, but without looking I can't tell. Any comment on this by someone who has this unit?
 

It is very secure and I don't think it can move, I know that the bike rides and handles much better.

Walt

[Admiral]

Or you could just upgrade to an 09 model, Don't believe we need them.

 

[Red07]

Or you could just upgrade to an 09 model, Don't believe we need them.

 

I'll keep what got, hearing some slit rumbling about rear end alignment problems with 09's. Waiting to see if someone has trouble on the site, I like my bike.

Walt

[SneakyPete]

Worn bearings will definitely cause instability. My neck bearings are shot, and I get it now, where I didn't before. I'll be pulling the fork this winter to replace them. These rubber mount bikes are a 2-edged sword too! On one hand, you get a much smoother feel and feel less vibration. On the other hand, any wear or flexing will cause instability. Keepin it tight is the only way to have a hope that you'll be stable!

Hoist!

Howie, you are right on.  Routine replacement of the neck bearing and rear swingarm bushings fix my wobble.  I'd say the rear swingarm bushings need to be changed every 20K miles.  At least for me anyway!

[SPIDERMAN]

Rather than get into an argument with anyone on the merits of one Mfgr over another, my advice is to buy whatever your riding buddies are using so you can be part of their group.    Seriously, it doesn't really matter. Somebody a few years ago figured out that there was a "missing link" in the stock H-D rubbermount system and came up with a fix using a stabilizer rod similar to the one on the front and top of the stock H-Dmotor. Once the first one of these hit the market, a dozen other Mfgrs came up with different ways of linking the stabilizer rod to the bottom/rear of the motor and since re-inventing the mousetrap is an American passtime, we now have about a dozen different choices out there. I'm not going to preach one over another. What I will say is that any pre-09 H-D bagger will benefit greatly from installing any of these products.

B B

[MUFFMAN]

Or you could just upgrade to an 09 model, Don't believe we need them.

 

I''ll keep what I got. I put lots of motor mods on my 07 to get it to perform the way 110's should. THE MUFFMAN

[olli]

Maybe I have missed it, but can any of these Braces be fitted to a bike with a centre stand??
Santa would like to know so he can send me one...........
Cheers...

This can be too late , but I have Str8 and Wheeldoc centerstand installed into my -08 and they work

[colcop]

Thanks Olli,
I have the Harley Centre Stand, but have been advised by Dan Semmere (of Str8) that it will fit.
Will get one in the next month or so, once I have mastered the art of actually getting the bike up onto the stand......
Dismal failure so far..........
Cheers.......

[MUFFMAN]

Got my Bagger Brace shipped on Friday. Installation was a breeze. My motorcycle jack works as well as before installation. Now, to get rid of this damn snow......   THE MUFFMAN

Finally got the first ride on the weekend with the Brace installed. Performs as advertised. No wallowing in the turns. Just feels a lot tighter. Money well spent.

[DESERTBEAR54]

Just installed my Bagger Brace and yes it makes a BIG Difference!! Very well designed and easy to install. No more wobble at High Speeds and crosswinds and handles tight in turns. Tell Ron at Phoenix Custom John from Tucson sent you his way!! I have an 08 SEUC with 29,000 miles on it.

[Trey767]

Desertbear54 did you install the bagger brace with a center stand?

Trey

[LarryB]

didnt think it was needed on the 09's

[Trey767]

Hey LarryB, the 09's have no need for these stabilizers 

[LarryB]

thats what I thought.

[DESERTBEAR54]

Center Stand had to come off.

[DICKW]

Hey LarryB, the 09's have no need for these stabilizers 

Really........I beg to differ