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CVO Technical => Cleaning/Detailing => Topic started by: bpalmersheim on June 07, 2007, 09:30:36 AM

Title: Touchup Paint
Post by: bpalmersheim on June 07, 2007, 09:30:36 AM
Can the dealer's Parts Department get touch-up paint for the CVO's?

I have a Razor Red Roadking (FLHRSE) and somehow got a nasty nick/rock chip on the frame already.

Any one have the paint codes/part numbers for the tins and the frame?
Title: Re: Touchup Paint
Post by: RJ749 on June 07, 2007, 10:16:07 AM
Yes they can, also here are the PPG Codes, you can get it at any good auto body supply.

http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=11837.0
Title: Re: Touchup Paint
Post by: bpalmersheim on June 07, 2007, 12:52:56 PM
Thanks for the reply, I found the paint codes in a search; but did not see my color listed.

I have a 2007 Roadking SE CVO in Razor Red.

Below are the codes for upto 2007 and red is not listed.

905208             EX60775    black    harley davidson 2003 - 2007   
905208             PCC10143    black    harley davidson 2003 - 2007   
905951             EX60839    black cherry    harley davidson 2004 - 2007   
905952             EX60918    yellow    harley davidson 2004 - 2007   
905952             EX60919    yellow    harley davidson 2004 - 2007   
905952/2    EX60918    yellow    harley davidson 2004 - 2007   
905952/2    EX60919    yellow    harley davidson 2004 - 2007
 
 
Title: Re: Touchup Paint
Post by: bpalmersheim on June 07, 2007, 02:05:50 PM
I called H-D.  The touch-up paint bottles for the CVO Roadking in Razor Red is:

HD P/N: 94451 [Frame] (brush bottle)
HD P/N: 94457 [Tins]  (brush bottle)

MoCo will not release the paint codes for the CVO's even to the dealer.

At least, I can get touch-up paint for the bike.
Title: Re: Touchup Paint
Post by: Hoist! on June 07, 2007, 03:41:27 PM
I called H-D.  The touch-up paint bottles for the CVO Roadking in Razor Red is:

HD P/N: 94451 [Frame] (brush bottle)
HD P/N: 94457 [Tins]  (brush bottle)

MoCo will not release the paint codes for the CVO's even to the dealer.

At least, I can get touch-up paint for the bike.

I'm waiting for the Black Ice Touch-up paint kit, with some other parts I ordered, from Zanotti's. They said it's a kit but they didn't know what it included. The description said for Black Ice FLHRSE3 with Pewter Leaf Flames. Maybe it includes some touch up for the flames too? It was a little over $19.00 including a 20% discount, so it must be for more than just the B/I paint alone. Wouldn't surprise me if it's not though! ;) Hoist! 8)
Title: Re: Touchup Paint
Post by: bpalmersheim on June 07, 2007, 09:38:17 PM
Buyer Beware,



I ordered the 1/2oz bottle of each color... Each bottle is almost $40.00 for touch-up paint.  That is frickin' ridicilous!
Title: Re: Touchup Paint
Post by: Fired00d on June 07, 2007, 09:41:31 PM
Buyer Beware,



I ordered the 1/2oz bottle of each color... Each bottle is almost $40.00 for touch-up paint.  That is frickin' ridicilous!

Nope, that is H-D. If you don't spend a "Hundred Dollars" they didn't do there job. :(

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:
Title: Re: Touchup Paint
Post by: REGGAB on June 07, 2007, 09:52:39 PM
Anyone have the touch-up paint part number for us Watermelon owners?
Title: Re: Touchup Paint
Post by: bpalmersheim on June 07, 2007, 11:27:00 PM
Anyone have the touch-up paint part number for us Watermelon owners?

If you call H-D Customer Service, they will provide you with a H-D Part # for your color in factory touch-up paint if you are going that route.

Otherwise, if you take you bike to a high-end body shop with the bike, they scan scan your paint and mix you a batch.
Title: Re: Touchup Paint
Post by: Smiler on June 08, 2007, 06:56:27 AM
If you call H-D Customer Service, they will provide you with a H-D Part # for your color in factory touch-up paint if you are going that route.

Otherwise, if you take you bike to a high-end body shop with the bike, they scan scan your paint and mix you a batch.
I've seen that.  I too have a red SERK but what about the burnt gold flames.  Any ideas.
Title: Re: Touchup Paint
Post by: REGGAB on June 13, 2007, 12:02:58 AM
While waiting to meet Terry and Suzanne at Foster's, I ordered a touchup kit for my melon.  P/N for my scooter color is 94398.  Total price shipped to my door was $38.72.  Once I get it, I'll tell you what's in it.  I don't need it yet (knock on wood), but it is nice to know it is on the way.
Title: Re: Touchup Paint
Post by: DW6019 on June 17, 2007, 10:48:29 PM
Not a Harley dealer, but Millers in Daytona has all the HD touch-up colors in stock including the three pak of CVO colors. Ask for Jr. Also he has a lot of the CVO stuff that you aren't supposed to be able to get w/o a s/n. Tank emblems, Tour Pak Medallions etc.
Not cheap, but they have a lot of stuff.
Title: Re: Touchup Paint
Post by: hard10 on June 17, 2007, 11:11:04 PM
Not a Harley dealer, but Millers in Daytona  has all the HD touch-up colors in stock including the three pak of CVO colors. Ask for Jr. Also he has a lot of the CVO stuff that you aren't supposed to be able to get w/o a s/n. Tank emblems, Tour Pak Medallions etc.
Not cheap, but they have a lot of stuff.

Do you have a # & address? I'm heading down that wat soon and may stop in just to see what they have.
Title: Re: Touchup Paint
Post by: DW6019 on June 23, 2007, 09:59:08 PM
Millers is on south Ridgewood Ave. Any local can tell you where Millers is when you get to Daytona. But easy to find, take International Speedway into town from I-95 to Ridgewood, turn right (south), Millers a couple miles on your left.
A must stop during Bikeweek, Biketoberfest if you haven't been there.
Title: Re: Touchup Paint
Post by: REGGAB on June 23, 2007, 10:06:40 PM
My touch up paint kit arrived last week.  Three bottles:  Black, Gold, and Green.  OK, I think I understand the Gold, since it appears it was used under the Green from the looks of the inside of the outer fairing.  If and when I need to use this stuff...............how do I?
Title: Re: Touchup Paint
Post by: Hoist! on June 24, 2007, 01:45:08 AM
$19 for the SERK Touch Up Kit. 2 friggin nail polish bottles, 1 Black Ice, 1 Pewter Leaf. Such a bargain! ;) Hoist! 8)
Title: Re: Touchup Paint
Post by: grc on June 24, 2007, 10:37:16 AM
$19 for the SERK Touch Up Kit. 2 friggin nail polish bottles, 1 Black Ice, 1 Pewter Leaf. Such a bargain! ;) Hoist! 8)

Don't forget, you'll also need a nail polish bottle of clearcoat to go with it.  :)

Jerry
Title: Re: Touchup Paint
Post by: REGGAB on June 24, 2007, 11:03:23 AM
Don't forget, you'll also need a nail polish bottle of clearcoat to go with it.  :)

Jerry
  OK, I didn't know that.  Is it available at an HD dealer, or can I get it from a PPG distributor?  Sure would like to know how I'm supposed to apply the gold and green.  I think gold goes on first, then green, and with this new knowledge I've just gained, clear as the top coat(s). 
Title: Re: Touchup Paint
Post by: Twolanerider on June 24, 2007, 12:03:40 PM
  OK, I didn't know that.  Is it available at an HD dealer, or can I get it from a PPG distributor?  Sure would like to know how I'm supposed to apply the gold and green.  I think gold goes on first, then green, and with this new knowledge I've just gained, clear as the top coat(s). 

Most auto parts stores any any automotive paint supply house will have touch up clear.  Probably even Wal Mart.
Title: Re: Touchup Paint
Post by: DW6019 on June 24, 2007, 08:41:29 PM
If you are not sure when to use the basecoat....you may want to rethink the whole touch-up approach. Someone who understands and is patient can touch-up a spot until it's height exceeds the remainder of the finish, then using fine sandpaper (I use 1500 - 2000grit) bring it back down,carefully, and then buff with the appropriate pads and products until the touch-up just goes away.
If you have never done all these steps. Take a piece of scrap and practice, a lot. Until when you get done buffing, the repair is no longer visible. Then try it on the bike.
Most scratches do not go thru the base and you will only use the mid and top coats to touch-up.
Title: Re: Touchup Paint
Post by: bpalmersheim on July 19, 2007, 12:52:48 PM
If you are not sure when to use the basecoat....you may want to rethink the whole touch-up approach. Someone who understands and is patient can touch-up a spot until it's height exceeds the remainder of the finish, then using fine sandpaper (I use 1500 - 2000grit) bring it back down,carefully, and then buff with the appropriate pads and products until the touch-up just goes away.
If you have never done all these steps. Take a piece of scrap and practice, a lot. Until when you get done buffing, the repair is no longer visible. Then try it on the bike.
Most scratches do not go thru the base and you will only use the mid and top coats to touch-up.

I worked in a body shop for a number of years and learned this little trick over the years.  Most all touch up paints are laquer, the factory motorcycle paint is bascoat/clear coat.  Use a tiny amount of laquer thinner on a peice of old tshirt wrapped tight on an old credit card or similar material so it concaves and gently rub over the blob after it has dried to level it.  You must not allow the paint to dry for more than a couple of days.  Keep applying touch-up paint/dry/rub blob until it is level.

By using this method, you don't have to sand and risk sanding scratches in your clearcoat and un-necessary buffing.
Title: Re: Touchup Paint
Post by: REGGAB on July 19, 2007, 10:39:58 PM
I worked in a body shop for a number of years and learned this little trick over the years.  Most all touch up paints are laquer, the factory motorcycle paint is bascoat/clear coat.  Use a tiny amount of laquer thinner on a peice of old tshirt wrapped tight on an old credit card or similar material so it concaves and gently rub over the blob after it has dried to level it.  You must not allow the paint to dry for more than a couple of days.  Keep applying touch-up paint/dry/rub blob until it is level.

By using this method, you don't have to sand and risk sanding scratches in your clearcoat  and un-necessary buffing.

This sounds like my kind of method.  I'm a slob with paint anyway, so I'd likely do as recommended earlier and practice on a scrap piece.  Laquer thinner:  Is that the same thing as mineral spirits?

Something about using any grade of sandpaper on a finished surface makes me cringe like when someone scrapes their fingernails across a blackboard.......just like using steel wool on chrome.  Just the thought gives me chills.   :nervous: :nervous: :nervous: :nervous:
Title: Re: Touchup Paint
Post by: DW6019 on July 22, 2007, 05:04:57 PM
Mineral Spirits is not LACQUER THINNER. Be very carefull with Lacq thinner on the bike, you can make a lot bigger mess with it than with 2000 - 3000 grit sandpaper and do it a lot quicker.
Lacquer thinner can be bought at Walmart etc. No one sprays lacquer any more on cars, at least not legally so easiest place is a hardware store to find it.