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6.5 GT Radio Issues .... anybody experience any ?
« on: September 16, 2013, 08:22:43 PM »

Have a 2014 FLHTKSE.  Just got back from Ocean City Bike week ... bike ran great !   The twin cooling really works well !  The splitstream vent in the fairing seems to do its job as well.   Brakes are very SOLID ....  did not notice anything negative with the linked brakes.  Bike handles like a dream.   Overall, impressed with all of the upgrades.

I do have one minor issue with the bike ... the radio.   When you turn the bike on, the radio boots and only the rear speakers work.  I need to go to the fader and move it slightly for the front speakers to come on.  It does this, I'd say, 3 times out of 5.   I did upgrade the firmware on the radio to 1.17.1.1 prior to going on my trip.    Does anyone else out there have any radio issues similar to this ?

Bike is only 200 miles away from the 1K service so, I can have the dealership take a look at it as well.  

Bike gets TONS of looks and it runs like a champ !!  I really like everything the MoCo did with it.   I'm thankful to report I have no coolant leakage at all.   Only thing the bike needs is ... a little more sound.  I'll be taking care of that soon !   (Thanks for the advice Yellowbird !!   Good meeting you at Seaford H-D)

-Tim
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Re: 6.5 GT Radio Issues .... anybody experience any ?
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2013, 08:44:51 PM »

Tim,

Good looking Rig you have there my Friend!

Enjoyed meeting and talking w/ you.

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« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2013, 10:57:19 PM »

Yes, as you know from the other thread my bike does the exact same thing.  I'll let you know if I figure out a solution, and please let me know if you do as well. :) 
I agree, everything else about the bike is totally awesome!  Tonight, I even used the heated grips and seat.  My Wife was loving the heated seat big time. :)
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« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2013, 07:18:14 PM »

I had the same problem with mine.  H-D has a TSB (Technical Service Bulletin) out that can correct this by Flashing the boom audio amp system.  Takes about 1/2 hour.

I did mine today and it has worked great ever since.  BTW to get by for now you can go hit the fade button and it will activate the front until you can to the dealer.
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« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2013, 08:20:57 PM »

I had the same problem with mine.  H-D has a TSB (Technical Service Bulletin) out that can correct this by Flashing the boom audio amp system.  Takes about 1/2 hour.

I did mine today and it has worked great ever since.  BTW to get by for now you can go hit the fade button and it will activate the front until you can to the dealer.
So do I have to take to the dealer to do the flash the system?  I've done the firmware update I downloaded from HD site.
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Re: 6.5 GT Radio Issues .... anybody experience any ?
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2013, 09:48:42 PM »

So do I have to take to the dealer to do the flash the system?  I've done the firmware update I downloaded from HD site.

Sweet !!!   Did you flash it or did the dealer ?   Do you know what the TSB number is ?

Thanks !!!!

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« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2013, 09:56:52 PM »

Picking mine up in a few weeks.

I do not want linked ABS brakes. That's for people that can't ride!

ABS is bad enough but linking them is almost criminal. Good thing it's electronic so I can get rid of both.

Can't wait to get mine
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Re: 6.5 GT Radio Issues .... anybody experience any ?
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2013, 12:35:44 AM »

I had the same problem with mine.  H-D has a TSB (Technical Service Bulletin) out that can correct this by Flashing the boom audio amp system.  Takes about 1/2 hour.

I did mine today and it has worked great ever since.  BTW to get by for now you can go hit the fade button and it will activate the front until you can to the dealer.

I had the same issue, too.  Flashed and it seemed to go away.  Unfortunately, I think I have a bad speaker in the front.  Technician thought it may be a bad sub.  Sound was weak.  The new speaker is in - I may be able to get it installed in the morning, but if it's going to take too long I'll just let it ride till later.  We have a rally going on in the Hill Country and I am not going to let a speaker prevent me from riding.... :cucumber:

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« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2013, 12:44:50 AM »

I had the same issue, too.  Flashed and it seemed to go away.  Unfortunately, I think I have a bad speaker in the front.  Technician thought it may be a bad sub.  Sound was weak.  The new speaker is in - I may be able to get it installed in the morning, but if it's going to take too long I'll just let it ride till later.  We have a rally going on in the Hill Country and I am not going to let a speaker prevent me from riding.... :cucumber:

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Does the dealer have to flash it?
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Re: 6.5 GT Radio Issues .... anybody experience any ?
« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2013, 01:06:02 AM »

Does the dealer have to flash it?

No, you can do it yourself in a few minutes.  The release notes mention a "display" issue with the fader, so I think that may be the fix.

here is a link to the download page.  There are versions for each of the stereo types.   http://www.harley-davidson.com/en_US/Content/Pages/Owners/infotainment/software-downloads.html

You just need a flash drive.  You may have received one with your CVO that will work.  If not any standard thumb drive with enough free space will work.

If it looks like something you are uncomfortable doing, your dealer can do it for you.  I was talking  to our service manager and he now keeps the latests updates on a thumb drive and checks all the bikes when they come in.

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Re: 6.5 GT Radio Issues .... anybody experience any ?
« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2013, 08:47:15 AM »

No, you can do it yourself in a few minutes.  The release notes mention a "display" issue with the fader, so I think that may be the fix.

here is a link to the download page.  There are versions for each of the stereo types.   http://www.harley-davidson.com/en_US/Content/Pages/Owners/infotainment/software-downloads.html

You just need a flash drive.  You may have received one with your CVO that will work.  If not any standard thumb drive with enough free space will work.

If it looks like something you are uncomfortable doing, your dealer can do it for you.  I was talking  to our service manager and he now keeps the latests updates on a thumb drive and checks all the bikes when they come in.

Best Regards,

Mark

Thanks, yes, I updated my firmware to the latest version the day right after getting the bike.  I do remember seeing something about the fader, but it didn't fix my problem with the fader.  Maybe I'll try to flash it again.
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Re: 6.5 GT Radio Issues .... anybody experience any ?
« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2013, 09:03:15 PM »

ABS Criminal?? Could be the #1 safety improvement ever made on bikes, if not #1 it is close to top. Have not tried one with the linked brakes but they only work above 20MPH which should make them a very good addition for any rider.
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« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2013, 10:16:39 PM »

Braking distance with ABS is longer than braking distance with "standard" brakes and a proficient rider.

ABS is only good for people that don't care to learn how to ride properly. (Or in this case stop properly)

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« Reply #13 on: September 21, 2013, 11:36:18 PM »

No issues with the radio works really well.......on my 2014 FLHTK.....Cant find Neutral......
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Re: 6.5 GT Radio Issues .... anybody experience any ?
« Reply #14 on: September 22, 2013, 09:10:42 AM »

Braking distance with ABS is longer than braking distance with "standard" brakes and a proficient rider.

I would agree with that statement with one caveat: That the test be performed under ideal conditions, on dry flat level ground, clean and free of debris, dirt, sand, leaves, pebbles, grass cuttings, an other lose material, and that the ABS equipped bike has the ABS deployed the whole time.

When I went though police motor school the instructors did a braking demo that impressed me.

On the training grounds, under those above described conditions, the instructors demonstrated a comparison between an old Kawasaki Police bike, and MY service BMW RT with ABS. At 40mph, the KZP using good threshold combination braking stopped shorter and quicker than the BMW WITH the ABS deployed. This happened every time they ran the test under the above conditions. and it was a marked difference in stopping distance. Now, under the SAME conditions, with the BMW brought to the threshold of ABS deployment,....where the ABS did NOT kick in, the BMW stopped better than or equal to the KZP.

Then they wet the surface to imitate a light rain or sprinkler run off. WITH the ABS deployed the BMW stopped quicker than the KZP. Then they went to sand on the road. Same thing, with ABS deployed, the BMW stopped quicker and shorter. Next gravel and then dirt. If the KZP over braked, the wheels would lock inducing a skid. Time and again the KZP was NOT able to modulate the brakes enough to out perform the BMW with ABS deployed.

The whole reason for this demos was two fold.

First, to let the motor officer candidates know that a rider with good braking skills, on a non ABS equipped bike, is capable of stopping as well as or better than an ABS bike,...(and here's the caveat),...under ideal conditions. Under less than ideal conditions (like most folks experience every day) and in the hands of good rider, the ABS bike has an advantage.

The second reason, (and my favorite one by the way), was to impress upon the motor officer the Importance Of Regular Practice.  If your bike does not have ABS it's important to practice good threshold combination braking. If your bike does have ABS, it's MORE important that you practice good threshold combination braking.

ABS is NOT meant to deploy every time the brakes are applied. If that happens, the rider is probably over braking and causing the ABS to kick in unnecessarily. ABS is meant to deploy when the brakes are used under less than ideal conditions, wet roads, bumpy or buckled pavement, sand, dirt, leaves,...all that stuff we find on the road everyday.

Speaking for only myself, as a veteran and experienced rider, I like ABS. I think it's one of the best improvements in the world of motorcycling. As one of the instructors said, it takes that human "Oh $hit" factor out that sometimes comes under adverse circumstances. I can only hope that those with ABS equipped bikes go out at least once a month and practice braking. I hope those without ABS practice as well.

Practice can only make you a better and safer rider.

But I could be wrong.

 
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« Reply #15 on: September 22, 2013, 09:45:11 AM »

One challenge with threshold breaking and ABS is that the threshold is set very low, around 80% so that option is not really real for a person http at does not practice on a regular basis.

If you have ABS you have to train yourself to always slam the brakes full every time to get them in to ABS mode, when breaking hard that is, not at a traffic light
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« Reply #16 on: September 22, 2013, 09:53:19 AM »

Braking distance with ABS is longer than braking distance with "standard" brakes and a proficient rider.

ABS is only good for people that don't care to learn how to ride properly. (Or in this case stop properly)



  I think most people who know how to ride "properly" would disagree with you.  I'll take ABS anytime.  Add to the ABS the linked brakes on the 2014's and it gets even better. 
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« Reply #17 on: September 22, 2013, 10:28:02 AM »

Most people can't ride properly and ABS is a crutch for them. It is a fact that breaking distance is longer with ABS compared with conventional brakes, I did not make it up.

Linked brakes is even worse. Only good item on the new CVO Limited is that the linked stuff only happens above 20 mph. Linked brakes is the first that will go when I take delivery in October.

I am done with this discussion to each his own. Rider training is sadly lacking and anyone can get their license after a crappy MSF class and lots of people stop with that. Lots of people also crash and die every year because they can't ride.
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Re: 6.5 GT Radio Issues .... anybody experience any ?
« Reply #18 on: September 22, 2013, 10:37:04 AM »

One challenge with threshold breaking and ABS is that the threshold is set very low, around 80% so that option is not really real for a person http at does not practice on a regular basis.

If you have ABS you have to train yourself to always slam the brakes full every time to get them in to ABS mode, when breaking hard that is, not at a traffic light

I agree,..which is why I am a big proponent of regular practice. To have something like ABS, and then not practice with it to get a better feel and understanding of it's capabilities is not utilizing all the safety features available.
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Re: 6.5 GT Radio Issues .... anybody experience any ?
« Reply #19 on: September 22, 2013, 10:46:31 AM »

It is a fact that breaking distance is longer with ABS compared with conventional brakes, I did not make it up.

Rider training is sadly lacking and anyone can get their license after a crappy MSF class and lots of people stop with that. Lots of people also crash and die every year because they can't ride.

I know you didn't make that up. I saw it with my own eyes. Under ideal conditions a NON ABS bike using good threshold combination braking will stop faster and shorter than a bike with ABS deployed. Yes, you are correct and I agree with you there. Under the same ideal conditions in the hands of a good rider, an ABS bike, brought to the threshold of ABS deployment will stop as well as or better than a NON ABS bike.

However, on less than ideal surfaces, wet, debris, dirt, uneven surface, the ABS performs better.

And yes I agree with you 100 percent, rider training is lacking amongst most of the population. The amount of motorcycle accidents would decrease exponentially if more folks would take riding as serious as you do and practice and train as often as you do.
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« Reply #20 on: September 22, 2013, 11:13:42 AM »

A person has to do a LOT of training not to lock brakes up in a panic situation, on a wet road, or a road with debris on it.  In a panic stop, even experienced riders WILL lock up the brakes, particularly the rear...experience will allow one to immediately release and get out of a skid, if it's not too late.

Experience allows us to avoid situations where a panic stop would be necessary, BUT it's that one time that might get you injured or killed.  Looking at the larger picture, I think ABS is a very good thing on both bikes and cars, and is a proven safety enhancement for 999 people out of 1000.

Regardless of the braking setup on a bike, practice is still necessary to become familiar with what it takes to bring 900 lbs to a safe stop, and what it feels like to do so.  In a panic situation, 999 people out of 1000 are going to benefit from ABS, regardless of riding experience.  I would not say that a person who chooses to have ABS "doesn't know how to ride", but that's just me.
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« Reply #21 on: September 22, 2013, 11:33:17 AM »

Do not release your rear brake if you happen to lock it. That's how you high side. Keep it locked and ride it out.

But if you never practice to do it it might be an issue since your brain will probably tell you the wrong thing. I practice locking the rear at 40mph and ride it out. Both in dry and wet condition. Not a big deal except tire wear.  In my opinion not a lot of training needed but consistent.

Used to practice on a KZP but switched to a RK this year. (Without ABS)
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« Reply #22 on: September 22, 2013, 11:36:25 AM »

And I agree, did not mean to say that anyone that chooses ABS can't ride. I am sure there are very good riders out there with and without ABS. But they are not normally the ones that show up in the statistics as dead.

So far we had 55 dead riders up here this summer. Very sad.
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« Reply #23 on: September 22, 2013, 12:11:33 PM »

Do not release your rear brake if you happen to lock it. That's how you high side. Keep it locked and ride it out.

SPOT ON! And that high side can happen at 15mph. It will throw you right over the bars. So while you are keeping that rear locked, keep your head and eyes up and level, and apply the front brake with a steady progressive squeeze, as that is the ONLY functioning brake system you have left.
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« Reply #24 on: September 22, 2013, 12:19:04 PM »

Do not release your rear brake if you happen to lock it. That's how you high side. Keep it locked and ride it out.

But if you never practice to do it it might be an issue since your brain will probably tell you the wrong thing. I practice locking the rear at 40mph and ride it out. Both in dry and wet condition. Not a big deal except tire wear.  In my opinion not a lot of training needed but consistent.

Used to practice on a KZP but switched to a RK this year. (Without ABS)

That's exactly the purpose of ABS...not to allow one to lock up the wheel up and stop it turning.  One, you are losing all stopping distance, and two, you have no control when a wheel is not turning.  Practicing a lock up of the rear tire is a good exercise to keep from high siding, but does nothing with regards to stopping distance, as the distance will be increased with a skidding tire.  Only the maximum force necessary to keep from locking up either wheel is an effective braking technique...it's a fine line with a multitude of scenarios which will change the amount of force needed on the pedal/lever to avoid lock up.  There are very, very few people who ride for pleasure who can avoid locking up the wheel in a panic stop. Experienced riders can avoid high siding by realizing that when the rear end is coming around on you, the worst thing to do is release the brake pedal.  I would totally agree that IF you ride a bike without ABS, practicing a controlled skid is probably a good idea, realizing of course that your effective stopping distance is being dramatically increased when skidding.  But it will keep you from high siding...what it won't do is keep you from T-boning that car that just turned left in front of you, as you have effectively lost both control over the direction of the bike, and increased the amount of time/distance you have to stop.  You can keep the bike upright by practicing a controlled skid, but avoidance maneuvers are out the window.  But, if not having ABS works for you, who am I to judge... :2vrolijk_21:

I have utilized the ABS/Traction control system on my cages on a couple of occasions and can be 100% sure that had I not had those features on the cage, the result would not have been a good one.  I used the ABS system on the '11 SERGU (I practiced with it many times in parking lots on Sundays) one time in the time I owned that bike, and again, I'm 100% sure it allowed me to avoid contact with either the ground or the vehicle that caused me to panic stop, as it allowed me to both stop in a shorter distance, and take avoidance measures at the same time.  That one incident will make me always buy future bikes with ABS, if available.  I drive/ride somewhat aggressively though, so my needs are different than others.

I'll be curious to read how you defeat the system on the new bike you're getting, just from a technical point of view.
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« Reply #25 on: September 22, 2013, 12:35:35 PM »

Should be easy to do. The linking is done electronically so is the ABS. Pull the fuse or get in to the CAN bus and change the protocol. (Not sure what protocol they use, my assumption is that it is a propriatory version). I might keep the ABS function but the linking has to go. Will make a decision after riding it.

I agree that ABS is great for cars since you can't balance the amount of brake force you get to each tire. It is intentionally less breaking force to the rear wheels since most people don't bother learning how to drive a car either and if the rear tires had more breaking force lots of cars would go tail first in a breaking situation. All that is now a none issue with ABS and the driver can just mash the brakes to stop. The old rally cars had a internal adjustment so you could send more or less break force between the axels.

I am on the same soapbox with car drivers education, it's a joke and you know very litle about handling a car after taking your "test".

But is is plenty of good schools out there to seek out and learning is fun in my opinion.
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Re: 6.5 GT Radio Issues .... anybody experience any ?
« Reply #26 on: September 22, 2013, 09:16:24 PM »

 I have to say for every person that argues BRAKING, ask those who have made PANIC stops what they would rather have! The people who train the most. local & state POLICE, 10 out of 10 will take ABS, and ABS linked! I've asked the question numerous times to officers that have 20+ years on their bikes,and they all agree on the ABS.
I agree with those who say they can control there bike with out ABS BUT, of all the ones I've talked to,they NEVER had to do a panic stop, with seconds before impact!
  I know I've had close calls, but no PANIC stops, so I don't know what I would do. I just know I would always take a bike with ABS! I've taken every advanced riding class, including office training, and I wish EVERY person would do the same.

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« Reply #27 on: September 22, 2013, 09:35:37 PM »

Well then don't panic   :2vrolijk_21:

I think my passengers rather me handle any upcoming situation with calm than panic. (Especially when piloting a helicopter for hire)


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« Reply #28 on: September 22, 2013, 09:52:37 PM »

Well I don't believe its 10 out of 10 since the officer training school I attended gate ABS to say the least.

What school did you get your motor officer training at?

I have to say for every person that argues BRAKING, ask those who have made PANIC stops what they would rather have! The people who train the most. local & state POLICE, 10 out of 10 will take ABS, and ABS linked! I've asked the question numerous times to officers that have 20+ years on their bikes,and they all agree on the ABS.
I agree with those who say they can control there bike with out ABS BUT, of all the ones I've talked to,they NEVER had to do a panic stop, with seconds before impact!
  I know I've had close calls, but no PANIC stops, so I don't know what I would do. I just know I would always take a bike with ABS! I've taken every advanced riding class, including office training, and I wish EVERY person would do the same.

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Re: 6.5 GT Radio Issues .... anybody experience any ?
« Reply #29 on: September 23, 2013, 08:26:19 AM »

I ride a fair bit, and practice my riding and braking skills.  I ride a bit over 20K miles a year, last year it was 23535 miles, over 20K this year so far.

My last three bikes have had ABS, the 09 CVO road glide, and my current two CVO's.  I would purchase a new bike with out ABS.  Not because I can't stop a bike fine with out ABS, because I can.  I have locked the back tire and rode it out.

I believe ABS has saved me twice, both times under less than ideal conditions, one time it had just started raining and a car turned in front of me.  I do not believe I could have stopped that fast with out abs in the rain, with in the first five minutes of the rain.  The other time there was all kinds of sand on the road.

That said other than practice, those are the only times I have felt the ABS kick in.  I can stop fast and hard with the brembo brakes with out kicking in the ABS under good road conditions.  I also do practice getting into the brakes hard enough for ABS to kick in, so I know what it feels like and I know how hard I can brake with out abs kicking in.

That said I am not sure I like the idea of Linked ABS.  One of the things I really liked about Harley's ABS was it was not linked so I could choose how much of each brake to use. 

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Re: 6.5 GT Radio Issues .... anybody experience any ?
« Reply #30 on: September 23, 2013, 09:05:28 AM »

Sorry that this has turned into a brake thread but I have to jump in here. The Linked brakes is my only worry on the new bikes. There are times when I do not want to use my front brake. What if your in a sand dusted turn and you brake? Will it link your front brake, wash out the front tire and down you go? this thought may keep me from a 2014.
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« Reply #31 on: September 23, 2013, 09:16:05 AM »

Sorry that this has turned into a brake thread but I have to jump in here. The Linked brakes is my only worry on the new bikes. There are times when I do not want to use my front brake. What if your in a sand dusted turn and you brake? Will it link your front brake, wash out the front tire and down you go? this thought may keep me from a 2014.


Please correct me if I am wrong...but in theory..when you apply the brake in a linked system the ABS feature should kick in and not let the front tire to wash out or lock up
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« Reply #32 on: September 23, 2013, 04:01:46 PM »

Sorry that this has turned into a brake thread but I have to jump in here. The Linked brakes is my only worry on the new bikes. There are times when I do not want to use my front brake. What if your in a sand dusted turn and you brake? Will it link your front brake, wash out the front tire and down you go? this thought may keep me from a 2014.

If the ABS system is functioning properly, that should never happen...at least not because the tire locked up.  Now TRACTION is a different ballgame, regardless...if you're in a turn too hot and hit sand/gravel, you're going to have a handful.

I would also assume, though I have not seen the stats on the HD ABS linked system, that there is a proportioning valve to apply the "right" amount of force to both wheels, regardless of conditions.

While there is no doubt that there might be a VERY small percentage of the riding population who can honestly react the same way in a deliberate full on braking situation vs an actual full blown panic stop, their numbers are extremely small.  By definition, a panic stop is one where your reflexes take over and you can't really practice that, unless you're in a simulator with random situations thrown at you.  It's just like training for a gunfight...you can practice shooting 'till the cows come home, and even go so far as to go through courses where simulated "bad guys" pop up for you to shoot at.  But in a REAL gunfight, it's a different ballgame and virtually impossible to predict how your mind/body will respond.  Training will help you respond better, but you just don't know until you get there.

What I want to see are some stats on stopping distances with a linked system utilizing only one brake pedal/lever vs both.
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« Reply #33 on: September 23, 2013, 06:12:04 PM »

This thread has been hijacked. Now if I want to read about any issues with the new radio, I have to read through all about ABS. Start a new thread, please, if you want to talk and express your opinion on ABS/linked braking!
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« Reply #34 on: September 23, 2013, 09:21:59 PM »

Back on subject....

I'm riding tonight listening to my iphone tunes and the phone rings.  I see on the screen incoming call from Dad.  I hit accept, my music stops, and the call drops, and goes to voice mail.  I answered on the 2nd ring.  After that my iphone would not play music anymore.  I had to stop turn the bike on and off a few times and finally it worked.  Again, I love the bike, but the radio sucks big ones.
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« Reply #35 on: September 23, 2013, 09:33:05 PM »

WELL SAID !!!!!
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« Reply #36 on: September 23, 2013, 10:33:39 PM »

I know we are taking radio issues and abs............Bmw has abs and a switch to turn it off on the GS version.....when off road
Abs needs to be shut off.....Abs on touring bikes "if not prepared to stop will function better" ....If your prepared to stop all brakes are good......So .....Abs is fantastic if the rider is asleep at the wheel and goes into a panic mode.....
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Re: 6.5 GT Radio Issues .... anybody experience any ?
« Reply #37 on: September 24, 2013, 09:24:54 AM »

Back on subject....

I'm riding tonight listening to my iphone tunes and the phone rings.  I see on the screen incoming call from Dad.  I hit accept, my music stops, and the call drops, and goes to voice mail.  I answered on the 2nd ring.  After that my iphone would not play music anymore.  I had to stop turn the bike on and off a few times and finally it worked.  Again, I love the bike, but the radio sucks big ones.
Must be something with the Blue one's...Sunday my screen froze and nothin' worked, at the first stop cycled acc and it came back...THEN used the CB and the stuck open, at least the buttons still worked, turned CB to off and it closed.  I've did the 1.7.1 upgrade.  She's ready for the 1K service, It'll get worked out.   I LOVE both the link and ABS systems,,,and I can ride and quick stop!  :coolblue:
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Re: 6.5 GT Radio Issues .... anybody experience any ?
« Reply #38 on: September 24, 2013, 09:59:27 AM »

This thread has been hijacked. Now if I want to read about any issues with the new radio, I have to read through all about ABS. Start a new thread, please, if you want to talk and express your opinion on ABS/linked braking!

 :jack:

Thank you.  I was like WTF? What does somebody's rant about ABS have to do with radios?  Besides they are wrong.  ABS is better.  Stating otherwise is just trying to show how big one's d@#$ is.     http://projectrushmore.harley-davidson.com/en_US  has a Project Rushmore video.  Check out the section on control.  They show a test which demonstrates that on average ABS is better.  Yeah, yeah - that's just HD marketing hype....  But check almost anywhere on the I-net and you will see that ABS is better on average.  Besides, you know they can't put anything on the Net that isn't true.   :P

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My radio goes back to center on the fade at startup.  Simply going to the fade screen kicks the sound in correctly, but the screen does not update unless I "click" on the fader display.  Minor annoyance.   I also had a "no sound" episode a couple of weeks back.  Powered off the radio and everything came back OK.

Also got my RF speaker replaced.  Wow what a difference.  Seems obvious that the sound would be better, but I wasn't sure what to expect.  50% volume at 75 mph and the tunes come through just fine.  Happy, happy.

Lastly, for general reference, the clearly marked MUTE button is also the power button.  Push and hold for 2 secs.  Discovered that by accident - maybe I should read the manual more carefully.  That's right - I didn't get one!  :'(


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« Reply #39 on: September 24, 2013, 10:21:48 AM »

I have the same issue with my radio. Tried the flash for the fader and it didn't take. HD tested a new cvo limited that arrived a few days ago and it had the same problem. I was advised that it appears to be a software problem and they are now investigating a fix.
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« Reply #40 on: September 25, 2013, 04:38:55 PM »

For $hits and giggles, I contacted H-D Customer Service and commended them on a great 2014 CVO Limited (didn't want to piss them off right out of the gate).  I then told them about the 6.5 GT Radio issues  .....  front speakers not working until fader is adjusted and the popping and crackling during FM reception.   I was surprised, they were very receptive and actually told me that they were aware of the problems and that engineers were working on a software update to correct the fader issue.  They did say they did have some complaints about the popping and cracking but, did no say they were working on a fix.     Folks that have the Fader issue and/or popping, cracking during FM reception .....  it may help if all of us call H-D Customer Service and let them know.    1-800-258-2464 or 414-343-4056


Is it me or is the FM Reception on these 6.5 GT Radio's weak ???

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« Reply #41 on: September 25, 2013, 04:48:41 PM »

FM on mine is fine.......different stations different out put..etc.etc.etc
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« Reply #42 on: September 25, 2013, 05:05:37 PM »

My FM works like most vehicles, poorly, but no different.  I do get the popping and cracking.  What is terrible on my CVO is the XM radio reception.  It cuts off and I loose reception constantly.  I will not be subscribing to XM for this reason.
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« Reply #43 on: September 30, 2013, 10:43:19 AM »

Well after looking through the normal debate of braking - I wanted to make it known that I had the update done to my radio by the dealer.  I thought it had worked just fine until this weekend.  The same problem is back the front speakers don't come on without me going into set up and moving the fader button.  Not every time but enough to annoy myself.  So I am back to the drawing board with Harley hoping there is yet another update that will actually fix it.   :jack: :soapbox:
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« Reply #44 on: September 30, 2013, 01:36:57 PM »

Not sure if this means anything or not (in reference to the front speakers not working) however,  I have noticed that if you turn the bike on via the ACCESSORY switch, the front speakers work every time.  It's only when the bike is turned on via the IGNITION button that the problem occurs.

Any status updates on this ?  Has anyone been back to the dealership ?   I'll be going to the dealership soon for my 1K service.   Just curious as to what others are being told. 

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« Reply #45 on: September 30, 2013, 08:48:54 PM »

I'm having an issue where we do not have enough volume to hear (Radio, CB, Intercom) in our helmets clearly at Highway speed on our new 14 limited CVO. On the old bike, we had plenty of volume and some to spare to hear each other clearly in our headset's. 
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« Reply #46 on: October 07, 2013, 09:59:53 PM »

Bump .....

Anyone have any luck getting the fader issue (only back speakers play when bike is started) corrected?  Mine is at dealership now having 1k service done.  I reported issue with radio as well.  I'll report any progress.

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« Reply #47 on: October 07, 2013, 10:15:05 PM »

Bump .....

Anyone have any luck getting the fader issue (only back speakers play when bike is started) corrected?  Mine is at dealership now having 1k service done.  I reported issue with radio as well.  I'll report any progress.

Tim

Nope, mine's at dealer for the puking, but I made them document the radio issue too.  It's so frustrating to always have to go into the audio menu to move the fader. Let us know what they find if anything.
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« Reply #48 on: October 11, 2013, 08:12:35 PM »

My radio works perfect. No issues.
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« Reply #49 on: October 11, 2013, 09:12:54 PM »

Today I went for a 260 mile ride.  I hooked my iphone up to the USB connection for the first time.  Works pretty good and I like that it displays the album art and gives you more control over the music than streaming Bluetooth. I did experience some weird stuff, however.   Doubt I can explain it properly, but it kept sounding like the music was fading in and out getting louder and softer.  It wasn't drastic volume swings, and almost sounded like the sound was being affected by the wind or something.  Later, I kept hearing vocals primarily coming from the right side.  It finally dawned on me that my left front speaker wasn't working.  Later in the ride it was working.  So, looks like I have even more radio gremlins to add to my list. :(
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« Reply #50 on: October 11, 2013, 09:48:27 PM »

Today I went for a 260 mile ride.  I hooked my iphone up to the USB connection for the first time.  Works pretty good and I like that it displays the album art and gives you more control over the music than streaming Bluetooth. I did experience some weird stuff, however.   Doubt I can explain it properly, but it kept sounding like the music was fading in and out getting louder and softer.  It wasn't drastic volume swings, and almost sounded like the sound was being affected by the wind or something.  Later, I kept hearing vocals primarily coming from the right side.  It finally dawned on me that my left front speaker wasn't working.  Later in the ride it was working.  So, looks like I have even more radio gremlins to add to my list. :(

Oh no.  I hope firmware upgrades are coming soon.  I know its frustrating.

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« Reply #51 on: October 12, 2013, 07:21:13 PM »

Got my bike back today from 1K service was told that a future firmware upgrade will be released to address front speakers not coming on.  I let the dealership know I wasn't happy with that.  Area rep from factory is coming to dealership to look at my radio and make a decision as to what should be done.

More details to follow ........

Oh ...  they must have flashed the ECM or BCM as well.  Today was pretty cool, mid 60's, when I parked the bike in the garage, the fans came on for about 10 seconds after the bike was shut off.  It never did that before ...actually, I think that's a good thing to do at shutdown to draw some of the residual heat out of the heads.  

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« Reply #52 on: October 12, 2013, 09:25:46 PM »

Got my bike back today from 1K service was told that a future firmware upgrade will be released to address front speakers not coming on.  I let the dealership know I wasn't happy with that.  Area rep from factory is coming to dealership to look at my radio and make a decision as to what should be done.

More details to follow ........

Oh ...  they must have flashed the ECM or BCM as well.  Today was pretty cool, mid 60's, when I parked the bike in the garage, the fans came on for about 10 seconds after the bike was shut off.  It never did that before ...actually, I think that's a good thing to do at shutdown to draw some of the residual heat out of the heads.  

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Regarding the fans...
I can't seem to find any rhyme or reason to why and when the fans come on.  They come on when I wouldn't think they would and don't when I think they should.
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« Reply #53 on: October 13, 2013, 08:09:19 PM »

Wow, where to start.  I am VERY disappointed in the "infotainment" system.  Looks like they had a lot of great ideas, packed them into one unit, and rolled it out without much testing...

I downloaded and updated the flash drive to 1.17.1.1, and still have many issues.  Yes, I still get sound only out of the left rear speaker 1 in 3 start-ups.  Yes, if you go to the fader and touch it, the speakers all kick in.  Need to do this every third ride or so.  And by the way, the thumb keys will not let you back out of the fader screen - you have to either use the touch screen or the left home button and navigate back through. Glitch

The new system gets rid of the CD player, rather you download your Cd's to a thumb drive (on the gold key).  Sure it holds a ton of Cd's, but you are on your own to find a program to download them.  I used my installed windows media player.  I do not like the way it translates into the infotainment system.  It allows you to pick artist, album, or song, but it picks up CONTRIBUTING artist as the main player.  So, if you have the Beatles greatest hits -  good luck finding it. Under album, I have about 10 "greatest hits" and can't tell one from the other.  Under artist, it comes up as Paul McCartney, or John Lennon NOT Beatles.  So if you pick Paul McCartney, it will only play the 2 songs he is listed under.... frustrating.  Lesson is that if Harley wants us to download our Cd's, give us a Harley approved program to do it, so we can edit the way we want to....

The NAV system....   First, don't like the set up.  It has the next turn, time etc bar across the bottom of the screen.  With the stereo running, it also has the current song info displayed in a bar across the bottom of the screen.  More info in displayed across the top in a bar.....  All of this makes the useable part of the nav screen really wide, but VERY short top to bottom. Can't really see what's coming as well as you should be able to.  And once you have the settings just how you like them, DON't turn the bike off, because it wipes out ALL of your preferences  (arrow vs bike display, left screen, right screen etc...  all gone when you shut down)  And by the way, if you are on the back get ready for this comedy....  Try adjusting the volume so you also can hear the turn by turn.  There is no screen to do it, you have to catch it DURING a voice direction and adjust the volume then.  Should have seen my wife - the radio cuts out (alerting us that the nav is going to give us direction) and scramble for the volume button...  "turn left now"  oops.... too late. Wait for next turn direction and try to catch it.  Ridiculous.
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« Reply #54 on: October 13, 2013, 08:10:10 PM »

Speaking of not remembering your preferences, how about the display brightness.  Uggh.  Getting dark.... Set it to auto, gets dark.  Cool.  Stop for gas.  Re-start bike.  Blast your corneas because goes back to full bright.  Reset to auto. Gets dark. Cool.  Next day, start bike.  Can't see screen.  Hold 2 hands around screen to try and make it dark enough to read while you fumble with the buttons.  One hand on the button..  oops, too bright can't see.  Ride to a shady spot and try again.   Another fiasco.

Riding for a few hours, shut the system off.  "Shut down in 3,    2,      1....... OFF.  Cool.   An hour later press the button to turn on.        Nothing.   Press and hold.... Nothing.....    Press twice.... Nothing.  OK, can do without the radio, but was kinda relying on the Nav system to get where I was going.   Pull into rest stop.  Shut bike down.  Restart.  Press radio button.   Nothing.  Press it twice....  nothing.... press it for 35 friggin seconds..... nothing.    Head back out onto I95 and guess where we are going to get off, but hey, it's the ride not the destination, right?   Later stop for gas.  As bike is JUST started, wife presses and holds button.... Voila! system comes back on.  Now I'm afraid to turn it off....  Just mute it for the forseeable future.

User friendly?  Not.  Put on the intercom's and couldn't hear each other.  Sure, the radio cut out, but nothing...  Where's the intercom VOLUME?  Uggh.............. Went to 3 different dealers, and NO ONE could find it.  I have since found it, accidentally, and we can now hear each other.  Speaking of volume, they are all independent.  Rider radio volume via speakers.  Passenger radio volume via speakers.  Rider radio volume via headset.  Passenger radio volume via headset.  Nav volume via speakers.  Nav volume rider headset.  Nav volume passenget headset (previously discussed).  Prompts via speakers.  Prompts via rider headset.  Prompts via passenger headset.   Get them set right where you want them?  Great for cruising around town.  Hit the highway, and can't hear anything.  OK, adjust all 10-12 volume controls while trying not to rear-end the car in front of you because you've been staring at the screen for 30 seconds.  Oops, my exit.  Now everything is blaring in my head.  Let's set all of them back again....     NO UNIVERSAL VOLUME.

But what about the auto speed volume?  Haven't figured out which ones they work, but I can tell you that if you turn it OFF, it STILL turns the volume on the speaker down to pin-drop at stops.  I guess "off" has some other meaning to those who developed this.

I could go on and on (believe me there is a LOT more) but hey, it's a new system right?  It's just that, well for $40,000 I would have liked a few more bugs to be worked out. 

Getting away from the infotainment system (please), how's about the other improvements?  I know, everyone wants to know about the cooling system.  Yes, it seems to work well, and I've been in some pretty hot spots.  I like how the EITMS kicks in immediately at a stop, BEFORE you toast the twins.  Yes, the radiators seem to pull a lot of heat off..... but that is also slightly problematic.  See where the vents are?  Feel the heat blowing out?  Cool.  I mean, NOT COOL when your feet are on the Highway pegs.  Kinda just the opposite of cool.  Actually kinda hot, right up your pants legs.  Maybe chaps when its not so hot in Florida.  but then.... kinda doesn't matter about the radiators then, does it?

Honestly, it's not all bad.  The 110 screamin eagle is very responsive and tourqey... Is that a word?  I do like how it feels, especially during passing situations.  I definitely like the rear bag toilet handles.  Easy in and out - and I like the bag lights.... have come in handy already.  I also very much like the headlamps.  Came into a construction zone at 10pm and everything lit up fantastic. 

Hopefully, 1.17.1.2 comes out SOON.....
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Re: 6.5 GT Radio Issues .... anybody experience any ?
« Reply #55 on: October 13, 2013, 10:21:47 PM »

Wow !  You hit the nail right on the head !    I agree, I would have thought the new infotainment system would have tested more extensively prior to release.  I hope H-D/Harman is more responsive with firmware updates as time goes by.

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« Reply #56 on: October 13, 2013, 11:19:55 PM »

Wow, where to start.  I am VERY disappointed in the "infotainment" system.  Looks like they had a lot of great ideas, packed them into one unit, and rolled it out without much testing...

I downloaded and updated the flash drive to 1.17.1.1, and still have many issues.  Yes, I still get sound only out of the left rear speaker 1 in 3 start-ups.  Yes, if you go to the fader and touch it, the speakers all kick in.  Need to do this every third ride or so.  And by the way, the thumb keys will not let you back out of the fader screen - you have to either use the touch screen or the left home button and navigate back through. Glitch

The new system gets rid of the CD player, rather you download your Cd's to a thumb drive (on the gold key).  Sure it holds a ton of Cd's, but you are on your own to find a program to download them.  I used my installed windows media player.  I do not like the way it translates into the infotainment system.  It allows you to pick artist, album, or song, but it picks up CONTRIBUTING artist as the main player.  So, if you have the Beatles greatest hits -  good luck finding it. Under album, I have about 10 "greatest hits" and can't tell one from the other.  Under artist, it comes up as Paul McCartney, or John Lennon NOT Beatles.  So if you pick Paul McCartney, it will only play the 2 songs he is listed under.... frustrating.  Lesson is that if Harley wants us to download our Cd's, give us a Harley approved program to do it, so we can edit the way we want to....

The NAV system....   First, don't like the set up.  It has the next turn, time etc bar across the bottom of the screen.  With the stereo running, it also has the current song info displayed in a bar across the bottom of the screen.  More info in displayed across the top in a bar.....  All of this makes the useable part of the nav screen really wide, but VERY short top to bottom. Can't really see what's coming as well as you should be able to.  And once you have the settings just how you like them, DON't turn the bike off, because it wipes out ALL of your preferences  (arrow vs bike display, left screen, right screen etc...  all gone when you shut down)  And by the way, if you are on the back get ready for this comedy....  Try adjusting the volume so you also can hear the turn by turn.  There is no screen to do it, you have to catch it DURING a voice direction and adjust the volume then.  Should have seen my wife - the radio cuts out (alerting us that the nav is going to give us direction) and scramble for the volume button...  "turn left now"  oops.... too late. Wait for next turn direction and try to catch it.  Ridiculous.


You can back out of the Fader screen by pressing in on the right directional button.  After you adjust the fade to the front speakers, press in on the directional button on the right hand side. After that, just go up to the top of the screen and choose Back.
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« Reply #57 on: October 16, 2013, 02:04:49 PM »

Ok guys here it is, I spoke with a Harley Rep about this radio issue and Harley told him that the fader issue is known by the MoCo and supposedly a software update will be out by the end of October 2013 with a fix!!!
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« Reply #58 on: October 16, 2013, 04:00:11 PM »

Ok guys here it is, I spoke with a Harley Rep about this radio issue and Harley told him that the fader issue is known by the MoCo and supposedly a software update will be out by the end of October 2013 with a fix!!!

Its about time !!    :mango:   Thank you for the update !

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Re: 6.5 GT Radio Issues .... anybody experience any ?
« Reply #59 on: October 28, 2013, 09:48:12 AM »

If I'm not mistaken, the volume controls for the different functions have worked independently at least since the HK radios were installed in '06.  Had to catch the GPS talking to adjust the volume there too, but the GPS had a button to make it talk whenever you wanted it to. Separate for the intercom and radio volume as well.  From my experience, there were drastic differences in volume between the various functions, so it was a good thing to be able to adjust them separately, though a bit aggravating at times.

Sounds like Mother Harley has let the buyers be the Beta testers for the "improvements" once again... :(
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Re: 6.5 GT Radio Issues .... anybody experience any ?
« Reply #60 on: October 28, 2013, 10:19:14 AM »

I had the same problem with the front audio speakers not coming on until you touch the audio fader screen. My tech hooked up the bike to the computer and found that in the audio list, the box for front speakers was not checked. He checked the box, and it has been working fine since. Hope this helps. Must have been missed at PDI, although it may have happened after I performed the last  audio update.
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Re: 6.5 GT Radio Issues .... anybody experience any ?
« Reply #61 on: October 28, 2013, 01:41:55 PM »

I had the same problem with the front audio speakers not coming on until you touch the audio fader screen. My tech hooked up the bike to the computer and found that in the audio list, the box for front speakers was not checked. He checked the box, and it has been working fine since. Hope this helps. Must have been missed at PDI, although it may have happened after I performed the last  audio update.

Interesting.  I doubt the firmware updated fixed it for you as it hasn't seemed to fix anyone elses.  I'll have to ask my tech about hooking it up to the computer if the fix is that easy.  While he's in there I'll have him activate the spot lights on whith high beam feather. :)
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Re: 6.5 GT Radio Issues .... anybody experience any ?
« Reply #62 on: October 28, 2013, 02:47:56 PM »

The tech definitely fixed the issue. There is a box for either the front speakers or front amp. When the infotainment system does not see that there is a front amp the speakers don't play. Might be in a data list.. Should take care of the issue
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« Reply #63 on: October 28, 2013, 07:13:08 PM »

Interesting.  I doubt the firmware updated fixed it for you as it hasn't seemed to fix anyone elses.  I'll have to ask my tech about hooking it up to the computer if the fix is that easy.  While he's in there I'll have him activate the spot lights on whith high beam feather. :)

Interesting.   If I turn on the bike with the accessory button, the front speakers turn on every time.  It's only when you power the bike on with the ignition switch does the problem occur.   I would think that setting that was mentioned would be a global one.   Nonetheless, I'll ask the next time I'm at the dealership.  Do we have any more details as to where the setting is ?  I'm pretty sure if I walk into the dealership describing this, they'll look at me like I'm crazy.

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« Reply #64 on: October 28, 2013, 09:20:29 PM »

I noticed the thread name issues, anyone have any? Already almost 70 replies. I guess that answers the question. So Sorry you involved have to deal with this especially since I was a betta tester on my 07 and stuff like this is why I am still riding it. Good luck to everyone, after all we all just want to ride and upgrade when WE are ready to.
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« Reply #65 on: October 28, 2013, 10:19:09 PM »

Sound system is perfect on mine, only glitch was me fiddling with the software update and my antivirus software  :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: 6.5 GT Radio Issues .... anybody experience any ?
« Reply #66 on: October 28, 2013, 10:50:18 PM »

Ok guys here it is, I spoke with a Harley Rep about this radio issue and Harley told him that the fader issue is known by the MoCo and supposedly a software update will be out by the end of October 2013 with a fix!!!

Can you speak to your Harley Rep and find out where the end of October update is?
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Re: 6.5 GT Radio Issues .... anybody experience any ?
« Reply #67 on: October 30, 2013, 03:35:24 AM »

If you or your dealer Flash the Radio make sure you start up the radio and shut the bike off and start the Radio again.....If you don't do it ...You might get the Screen to lock up...and to fix that I just rebooted or did a complete start up,,,,,, 
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« Reply #68 on: November 01, 2013, 12:27:00 PM »

Well all I am just over 9,000 miles on the bike and have to say that even with the upgraded flash from the dealership the lack of front speakers is still an issue.  The dealer tells me they are working on a fix but currently dont have one.  One more thing that I thought was strange that my Left front speaker quit working all together and I had to have it replaced around 8,000 miles.  I love the bike but they do need to iron out a few things. 
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Re: 6.5 GT Radio Issues .... anybody experience any ?
« Reply #69 on: November 08, 2013, 07:13:39 AM »

The HDI models have a different update. The USA version is not working.

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http://www.harley-davidson.com/en_EU/Content/Pages/Genuine_Motor_Accessories/advanced-audio-system.html

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Re: 6.5 GT Radio Issues .... anybody experience any ?
« Reply #70 on: November 08, 2013, 08:57:50 AM »

The HDI models have a different update. The USA version is not working.

Link:

http://www.harley-davidson.com/en_EU/Content/Pages/Genuine_Motor_Accessories/advanced-audio-system.html



That CVO 6.5 update is the same as the US.  Same and only one there has ever been since day 1.  The same one that doesn't fix anything. :(
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Re: 6.5 GT Radio Issues .... anybody experience any ?
« Reply #71 on: November 08, 2013, 11:54:58 AM »

It's not the same. The usa version isn't working on hdi models.
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« Reply #72 on: November 08, 2013, 01:38:21 PM »

It's not the same. The usa version isn't working on hdi models.

Don't know if it's the same, but it is the same firmware #.
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Re: 6.5 GT Radio Issues .... anybody experience any ?
« Reply #73 on: November 08, 2013, 02:47:23 PM »

The HDI models have a different update. The USA version is not working.

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http://www.harley-davidson.com/en_EU/Content/Pages/Genuine_Motor_Accessories/advanced-audio-system.html



Good find!  Tried several times to install the US upgrade last weekend, unsuccessfully.

Plainly insane, normal HD behaviour, to run two software download sites simultaneously!

http://www.harley-davidson.com/en_US/Content/Pages/Owners/infotainment/software-downloads.html - US only
http://www.harley-davidson.com/en_EU/Content/Pages/Genuine_Motor_Accessories/advanced-audio-system.html - US and HDI

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