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is it worth it or not, that is the question
« on: October 21, 2013, 01:27:15 PM »

I have a Ultra CVO 2009 , love the bike but I like what harley has done to the new 2014 model and when all the bugs are worked out I'm sure 2015 will be terrific. I spoke to my dealer the other day and he said with the new engine enhancement on the limited 103s you are better off just gettine a 103 limited instead of the 110.  price and value wise

Now my question is besides the heated seats and crome is there anything else the new CVO screaming eagle has over the Limited 103 Ultra for the extra 10 grand, any advice would be
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Re: is it worth it or not, that is the question
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2013, 02:24:28 PM »

well, whether or not it is worth it is a question only you can answer.  but for your $12,000 + you're gonna get a bigger engine, much nicer paint job, 75 watt per channel amplifiers, mirror chrome chisel wheels, hd ventilator a/c, LED passing lights, better exhaust (subjective), wrap around led run/brake lights on the tourpack and dual control heated seats.  plus some other chrome bits.

if you were to add the items individually, it would come up more than the cvo cost wise.  but, the question becomes, would you add all those things? or only some of them?

if you look at the limited edition paint sets, with the extended saddlebags, and tourpack, they run about $10,000 for the complete set.

course, you also get the improved resale value of the cvo vs the limited which all your add-ons don't really increase the book value of the sale (if thats a consideration for you)
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Re: is it worth it or not, that is the question
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2013, 03:36:53 PM »

I have a Ultra CVO 2009 , love the bike but I like what harley has done to the new 2014 model and when all the bugs are worked out I'm sure 2015 will be terrific. I spoke to my dealer the other day and he said with the new engine enhancement on the limited 103s you are better off just gettine a 103 limited instead of the 110.  price and value wise

Now my question is besides the heated seats and crome is there anything else the new CVO screaming eagle has over the Limited 103 Ultra for the extra 10 grand, any advice would be
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Here's what's going to happen. You're going to buy the Limited then spend a bunch of time and money trying to dress it up like the CVO. Just get the CVO  :nixweiss:
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« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2013, 03:48:45 PM »

Here's what's going to happen. You're going to buy the Limited then spend a bunch of time and money trying to dress it up like the CVO. Just get the CVO  :nixweiss:

Agree, been there done that
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Re: is it worth it or not, that is the question
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2013, 04:21:27 PM »

power locks $1000  :apple:
upgraded speakers $1000   :bananarock:
110 $2000  :jalapeno:
Paint $1000+  :cucumber:
Crome and Crome and More Crome $??  :pineapple:
Heated Seat $1200  :pepper:


 :2vrolijk_21: Just get the CVO  :2vrolijk_21:


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Re: is it worth it or not, that is the question
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2013, 05:11:16 PM »

Agree, been there done that
Oh and I forgot to mention when it's time to trade/sell it's a limited, not a CVO  :-\
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Re: is it worth it or not, that is the question
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2013, 05:23:39 PM »

Thank you very much, I just needed that extra push, I'll get the Screamin Eagle
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« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2013, 06:10:55 PM »

 
Thank you very much, I just needed that extra push, I'll get the Screamin Eagle
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Re: is it worth it or not, that is the question
« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2013, 07:03:35 PM »

Oh and I forgot to mention when it's time to trade/sell it's a limited, not a CVO  :-\
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Re: is it worth it or not, that is the question
« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2013, 07:31:28 PM »

Thank you very much, I just needed that extra push, I'll get the Screamin Eagle

Now the question is , which color?
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« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2013, 10:06:22 PM »

Agree, been there done that

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Re: is it worth it or not, that is the question
« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2013, 08:04:23 AM »

If you have the cash..........CVO........if you don't Ultra it is a lot of bike for the Bucks
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Re: is it worth it or not, that is the question
« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2013, 08:16:41 AM »

Here's what's going to happen. You're going to buy the Limited then spend a bunch of time and money trying to dress it up like the CVO. Just get the CVO  :nixweiss:

Jesse, I had to clean my computer screen after reading that one.... :huepfenlol2:
....as if we ALL don't do that with our CVO's anyway..... :2vrolijk_21:

ANZAC:  To answer your original question....you can't make a stock Limited into a CVO limited for anywhere near the MSRP on a CVO Limited.  Plus, after you do the mods to the stock Limited, it's still just a stock Limited when it comes to selling/trade-in time.  Look at it this way, if you spend $27K on the Limited and then put say $12,000 in accessories on it (appearance, performance, sound, paint, etc), when you go to trade in a couple years, those $12,000 mods equate to maybe 10% of their original cost (so figure at the most $1,200 if you are lucky) not to mention depreciation on the stock Limited.  Take the Limited CVO at $39K.  The extras that come on the CVO are part of the bike, not extras.  So while it will depreciate just like the stock Limited does, the extra "stuff" on the CVO keeps more of the original value and isn't figured separately as extras.  Of course, all of this depends on what you can afford AND if you do any mods to the Limited.  If you kept it stock and like it that way and don't really want/need all the bling that comes with the CVO, by all means jump on the Limited.  Really, it comes down to what you like.  Good luck on whatever road you take.

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Re: is it worth it or not, that is the question
« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2013, 11:34:09 AM »

Jesse, I had to clean my computer screen after reading that one.... :huepfenlol2:
....as if we ALL don't do that with our CVO's anyway..... :2vrolijk_21:

ANZAC:  To answer your original question....you can't make a stock Limited into a CVO limited for anywhere near the MSRP on a CVO Limited.  Plus, after you do the mods to the stock Limited, it's still just a stock Limited with it comes to selling/trade-in time.  Look at it this way, if you spend $27K on the Limited and then put say $12,000 in accessories on it (appearance, performance, sound, paint, etc), when you go to trade in a couple years, those $12,000 mods equate to maybe 10% of their original cost (so figure at the most $1,200 if your are lucky) not to mention depreciation on the stock Limited.  Take the Limited CVO at $39K.  The extras that come on the CVO are part of the bike, not extras.  So while it will depreciate just like the stock Limited does, the extra "stuff" on the CVO keeps more of the original value and isn't figured separately as extras.  Of course, all of this depends on what you can afford AND if you do any mods to the Limited.  If you kept it stock and like it that way and don't really want/need all the bling that comes with the CVO, by all means jump on the Limited.  Really, it comes down to what you like.  Good luck on whatever road you take.

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Hehe well said my friend, well said.  :coolblue:
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« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2013, 11:41:32 AM »

thank you once again for all the valuable advice
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Re: is it worth it or not, that is the question
« Reply #15 on: October 22, 2013, 01:23:55 PM »

Here's what's going to happen. You're going to buy the Limited then spend a bunch of time and money trying to dress it up like the CVO. Just get the CVO  :nixweiss:

Agreed - done that myself on an older Harley, before my 2009 CVO.
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« Reply #16 on: October 22, 2013, 02:15:32 PM »

On top of everthing else mentioned the CVO also gets you felt lined bags and tourpack, CVO monogramed outdoor cover, USB stick with a skull on it, etc....
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« Reply #17 on: October 22, 2013, 04:44:17 PM »

On top of everthing else mentioned the CVO also gets you felt lined bags and tourpack, CVO monogramed outdoor cover, USB stick with a skull on it, etc....

... and the ability to say "I have a CVO".     ;)

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« Reply #18 on: October 22, 2013, 05:17:41 PM »

I agree with what is being said. I owned a 2007 CVO Ultra and now a 2014 Limited. the Limited fit my budget and the CVO did not. I am going to add Approx.. $2,000 in extras to my Limited and will be more than happy. You should never, ever try to duplicate the CVO starting with a Limited, it would be insane.

When I traded in my 2007 CVO I received much more in trade-in than I would have received from a regular 2007 Ultra. Made it easy to buy the new 2014 Limited.

IMHO, the most important thing is the finances; if I had a payment, especially a large one, the bike would get old quick. If you pay cash for what you feel comfortable buying, you will enjoy the bike much more and for a longer period of time.

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« Reply #19 on: October 22, 2013, 05:25:53 PM »

Which ever you choose, the bike is just the price of admission...
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« Reply #20 on: October 22, 2013, 05:47:24 PM »

I agree with what is being said. I owned a 2007 CVO Ultra and now a 2014 Limited. the Limited fit my budget and the CVO did not. I am going to add Approx.. $2,000 in extras to my Limited and will be more than happy. You should never, ever try to duplicate the CVO starting with a Limited, it would be insane.

When I traded in my 2007 CVO I received much more in trade-in than I would have received from a regular 2007 Ultra. Made it easy to buy the new 2014 Limited.

IMHO, the most important thing is the finances; if I had a payment, especially a large one, the bike would get old quick. If you pay cash for what you feel comfortable buying, you will enjoy the bike much more and for a longer period of time.

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Different strokes for different folks. I have a payment and the bike NEVER gets old. If I ever felt like that it would be time to get out of the business. Did you pay cash for your house too? If so, is it getting old living there? Guess I don't get the logic. Either way, rubber side down and enjoy your ride!  :nixweiss:
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« Reply #21 on: October 22, 2013, 05:58:36 PM »

Different strokes for different folks. I have a payment and the bike NEVER gets old. If I ever felt like that it would be time to get out of the business. Did you pay cash for your house too? If so, is it getting old living there? Guess I don't get the logic. Either way, rubber side down and enjoy your ride!  :nixweiss:

It's all cool, I just have aversion to debt. Some people are comfortable with it, some are not. Just something to think about when making a major purchase, that's all. 
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« Reply #22 on: October 22, 2013, 07:13:18 PM »

I do agree...for toys I pay cash, that way I can always sell it if I need cash for an emergency...but again, that is just me
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« Reply #23 on: October 22, 2013, 08:52:18 PM »

Which ever you choose, the bike is just the price of admission...

For the first time in my HD buying life I can say that the 2014 comes ready to tour. All the changes you make are because you want them, not because it's the only way to get the bike running proper or the only way to put good brakes etc. The 14 CVO or Limited comes with great brakes, handling and what I feel is acceptable power. The nice chrome stuff is up to you.
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« Reply #24 on: October 23, 2013, 08:27:33 AM »

For me, it depends on the model year. I've gone back and forth with cvo and non cvo bikes I've purchased. Its got to be a bike that I really like for me to shell the extra $ for a cvo. The "its cheaper than upgrading to the same specs" doesn't make sense since I would never upgrade to the same specs anyway. I fell in love with the atomic orange cvo rg, however I still think that the limited ultra is the best bang for the buck of any of the touring bikes.
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« Reply #25 on: October 23, 2013, 09:19:35 AM »

I think everyone agrees; you don't buy a Ultra Limited and try to make it into a CVO; with that said here is what I looked at, New 2014 CVO Ultra $38,999, Average California sales tax 8% for a total of $42,118.92 plus License. You would probably only add upgraded Mufflers and air cleaner. I am not including that cost because you would do the same with the Ultra Limited.

If you buy the Ultra Limited in Black the price is $25,899, with 8% tax you are at 27,970.92, if you go with the top custom paint option Ultra Limited the price is $27,364 plus 8% sales tax or 29,553.12. I am very happy with the factory paint on the Limited (Yes I prefer the CVO) and only wish to add the slipstream rider and passenger floor boards using the swept wing option; just like those on the CVO. I would add the XM Module option, garage door opener, upgraded round custom gear shift linkage and short angle adjustable highway pegs. Total retail for all the parts is $1,499.35. I plan on buying this winter during my dealers 20% off sale for a total price of $1,199.48. That will result in a total price of $29,170.40 for the black Limited and $30,752.60 for the custom paint optioned Ultra Limited.

These would be bikes that look great and have all the features I would consider "required". Most of the extras included with the CVO are cosmetic. You have a little more power with the 110" motor but the 103" sure does the job. The difference is approx.. $12,948.52 between the black Nicely equipped Ultra Limited and a CVO and $11,366.32 for the Custom paint option Ultra Limited.

The difference would of course drop close to another $1,000 if you have the accessories installed by the dealer. I did not include the cost of California's Lic. Fee. It would be substantially higher for the CVO, year after year. I did not include the price of mufflers or air cleaner because they are needed on both bikes.

Without question; if the difference is not a issue, go with the CVO. If a person is more like myself, I was more comfortable with the Ultra Limited and found the bikes appearance and performance more than acceptable. Nothing like looking at the facts. Again; If you want the Chrome front end, polished front disc brakes, chrome handlebar controls, color matched inner fairing, etc., etc., etc. for heavens sake go with the CVO.

Hope this helps
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« Reply #26 on: October 23, 2013, 09:53:27 AM »

The dealer probably said that because he had a Limited on the floor and wanted to make the
sale now instead of waiting on a CVO. Also he probably already has all the CVO bikes pre-sold
and holding deposits on them. He just wanted to make a quick sale.

If you can afford it buy the CVO!
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« Reply #27 on: October 23, 2013, 10:12:45 AM »

The dealer probably said that because he had a Limited on the floor and wanted to make the
sale now instead of waiting on a CVO. Also he probably already has all the CVO bikes pre-sold
and holding deposits on them. He just wanted to make a quick sale.

If you can afford it buy the CVO!

Same said dealer would say "Man, you should'a waited for the CVO" when one does come in/available.  Next words would be "you ready to trade?"
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« Reply #28 on: October 23, 2013, 12:03:11 PM »

I think everyone agrees; you don't buy a Ultra Limited and try to make it into a CVO; with that said here is what I looked at, New 2014 CVO Ultra $38,999, Average California sales tax 8% for a total of $42,118.92 plus License. You would probably only add upgraded Mufflers and air cleaner. I am not including that cost because you would do the same with the Ultra Limited.

If you buy the Ultra Limited in Black the price is $25,899, with 8% tax you are at 27,970.92, if you go with the top custom paint option Ultra Limited the price is $27,364 plus 8% sales tax or 29,553.12. I am very happy with the factory paint on the Limited (Yes I prefer the CVO) and only wish to add the slipstream rider and passenger floor boards using the swept wing option; just like those on the CVO. I would add the XM Module option, garage door opener, upgraded round custom gear shift linkage and short angle adjustable highway pegs. Total retail for all the parts is $1,499.35. I plan on buying this winter during my dealers 20% off sale for a total price of $1,199.48. That will result in a total price of $29,170.40 for the black Limited and $30,752.60 for the custom paint optioned Ultra Limited.

These would be bikes that look great and have all the features I would consider "required". Most of the extras included with the CVO are cosmetic. You have a little more power with the 110" motor but the 103" sure does the job. The difference is approx.. $12,948.52 between the black Nicely equipped Ultra Limited and a CVO and $11,366.32 for the Custom paint option Ultra Limited.

The difference would of course drop close to another $1,000 if you have the accessories installed by the dealer. I did not include the cost of California's Lic. Fee. It would be substantially higher for the CVO, year after year. I did not include the price of mufflers or air cleaner because they are needed on both bikes.

Without question; if the difference is not a issue, go with the CVO. If a person is more like myself, I was more comfortable with the Ultra Limited and found the bikes appearance and performance more than acceptable. Nothing like looking at the facts. Again; If you want the Chrome front end, polished front disc brakes, chrome handlebar controls, color matched inner fairing, etc., etc., etc. for heavens sake go with the CVO.

Hope this helps
Scott


Part two of this price comparison: While I have no way of knowing what todays bikes will sell for down the road, I compared a 2009 Ultra Classic to a 2009 CVO Ultra on KBB. Base trade-in values, just a apples to apples comparison.

2009 Ultra Classic Base trade-in value: $12,875, original MSRP was $20,999. Depreciation cost $8,124. If you spent $1,500 on upgrades the Depreciation cost would rise to $9,624 or $2,406 per year for four years.
2009 Ultra Classic CVO Base trade-in value: $19,550, original MSRP was $35,499, Depreciation cost $15,949 or $3,987.25 per year for four years.

These numbers are nothing more than a guide. Market prices paid in relation to book values are sometimes higher for low volume bikes like the CVO. The numbers will absolutely vary from this projection, I just think it helps to have all the facts, to some riders the $1581 estimated yearly additional depreciation is well worth owning the CVO, to others it's not. I prefer something to go on VS. the CVO brings more at trade-in time so it's really not costing you that much more to own. Everything is relative to each persons situation.

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« Reply #29 on: October 23, 2013, 12:29:38 PM »

Oh, Hell … I can see the nostrils flaring now   :sauer005:
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« Reply #30 on: October 23, 2013, 12:30:45 PM »

For the first time in my HD buying life I can say that the 2014 comes ready to tour. All the changes you make are because you want them, not because it's the only way to get the bike running proper or the only way to put good brakes etc. The 14 CVO or Limited comes with great brakes, handling and what I feel is acceptable power. The nice chrome stuff is up to you.

I'm sure you're right about the '14.  Thought the same thing when I bought the '13 SEUG, but ended up making a few performance and functional enhancements out of personal preference   ;D

You can't go wrong with either choice from a riding perspective.  For me, I could never go back to stock or even limited, having had all the goodies right from the start, especially paint and chrome!  These are highly important features of the CVO - if someone doesn't value those features, then it's my opinion that the CVO isn't right for them regardless of the 110 (the 103 is absolutely more than enough power for the bike).  A $12k premium for a $6k engine simply doesn't make sense.

Also CVOs hold their resale value substantially better than the rest of the line up, which I found to be true with my CVORK earlier this year.  This point alone pushes me over the wall 'cause unlike with my wife, I can upgrade the bike any old time!!

  

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« Reply #31 on: October 23, 2013, 01:18:00 PM »

I'm sure you're right about the '14.  Thought the same thing when I bought the '13 SEUG, but ended up making a few performance and functional enhancements out of personal preference   ;D

You can't go wrong with either choice from a riding perspective.  For me, I could never go back to stock or even limited, having had all the goodies right from the start, especially paint and chrome!  These are highly important features of the CVO - if someone doesn't value those features, then it's my opinion that the CVO isn't right for them regardless of the 110 (the 103 is absolutely more than enough power for the bike).  A $12k premium for a $6k engine simply doesn't make sense.

Also CVOs hold their resale value substantially better than the rest of the line up, which I found to be true with my CVORK earlier this year.  This point alone pushes me over the wall 'cause unlike with my wife, I can upgrade the bike any old time!!

My only disagreement would be the "resale value substantially better than the rest of the line up". The book value guide shows and I have personally experienced a higher overall ownership cost with a CVO. Not saying that you did not have a exceptional experience, just not the average. I am not saying that the CVO is not worth the cost, that is subjective. 

The value anyone should place on a bike is the enjoyment factor; nothing else. I learned a long time ago that you can't make logical sense out of a motorcycle. Especially motorcycles that cost what a nice touring HD cost. People should buy what fits the budget and what delivers the sheer pleasure a great bike can deliver. 

  


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« Reply #32 on: October 23, 2013, 02:09:32 PM »



It's all good!  Good luck with whatever path you choose, and enjoy the heck out of it.

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« Reply #33 on: October 23, 2013, 05:41:18 PM »

Enjoy.........Buy what you can afford......I have the 2014 Ultra limited 103 had a 2011 before that ....I put a ton of miles on and will be getting a 2016......Just Ride.......Have fun ....We are only Passing Through......Do it NOW
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« Reply #34 on: October 23, 2013, 05:50:17 PM »

Enjoy.........Buy what you can afford......I have the 2014 Ultra limited 103 had a 2011 before that ....I put a ton of miles on and will be getting a 2016......Just Ride.......Have fun ....We are only Passing Through......Do it NOW

Well said and so true, especially for guys like myself...past the big six O....My brain writes checks my body cant cash.
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« Reply #35 on: October 23, 2013, 07:01:30 PM »

you have sold me, its CVO it is
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Re: is it worth it or not, that is the question
« Reply #36 on: October 23, 2013, 08:01:16 PM »

the only trouble with all this math is - IMHO - trying to apply logic to an emotional decision. Did I NEED a CVO? The answer should be obvious, no I didn't. My '06 non-CVO ultra was paid for and worked just fine  I added all kinds of goodies from upgraded audio to heated seat plus some extra chrome.. Except maybe for the chassis improvements made in '09, I was perfectly happy riding the Dragon Fly dream all over the place, even after a test ride and a few rentals on the newer chassis with the 96 inch engine...THEN....

When I saw the '11.5 announced that was it - I WANTED that CVO and no other would suffice! Now don't get me wrong it was a lot of coin to purchase the bike, but if your accountant wife says it's not only alright with her - it's fully encouraged  - you have no choice, gotta make momma happy right  ;)

Of course the fact that I had the cash to make the deal helped the cause. I too have an aversion to debt.

Bottom line, get the bike you want - with the stipulation that it fits in the household budget.
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« Reply #37 on: October 23, 2013, 08:16:07 PM »

the only trouble with all this math is - IMHO - trying to apply logic to an emotional decision. Did I NEED a CVO? The answer should be obvious, no I didn't. My '06 non-CVO ultra was paid for and worked just fine  I added all kinds of goodies from upgraded audio to heated seat plus some extra chrome.. Except maybe for the chassis improvements made in '09, I was perfectly happy riding the Dragon Fly dream all over the place, even after a test ride and a few rentals on the newer chassis with the 96 inch engine...THEN....

When I saw the '11.5 announced that was it - I WANTED that CVO and no other would suffice! Now don't get me wrong it was a lot of coin to purchase the bike, but if your accountant wife says it's not only alright with her - it's fully encouraged  - you have no choice, gotta make momma happy right  ;)

Of course the fact that I had the cash to make the deal helped the cause. I too have an aversion to debt.

Bottom line, get the bike you want - with the stipulation that it fits in the household budget.


BINGO!!!!! I was not completely satisfied with my 07 SE Ultra, had spent way too much on the bike with improvements trying to make it a bike I would be happy with. Suspension, seat, etc., etc. I was relatively happy with the 07 until I test rode the new 2014 Ultra Limited. It was everything I was looking for, best yet, with my well kept 07 SE Ultra as a trade-in I was able to write the check for the difference, wife was happy and so am I. If I could have wrote the check for another CVO without any issues (including the wife) I would have regardless of the facts and numbers, in the end I am completely satisfied with the 14 Ultra Limited in Daytona Blue. Planning about $1,200 in cosmetic upgrades and I'm good. I even put the CVO turned aluminum dash on my bike.
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« Reply #38 on: October 23, 2013, 08:45:18 PM »


BINGO!!!!! I was not completely satisfied with my 07 SE Ultra, had spent way too much on the bike with improvements trying to make it a bike I would be happy with. Suspension, seat, etc., etc. I was relatively happy with the 07 until I test rode the new 2014 Ultra Limited. It was everything I was looking for, best yet, with my well kept 07 SE Ultra as a trade-in I was able to write the check for the difference, wife was happy and so am I. If I could have wrote the check for another CVO without any issues (including the wife) I would have regardless of the facts and numbers, in the end I am completely satisfied with the 14 Ultra Limited in Daytona Blue. Planning about $1,200 in cosmetic upgrades and I'm good. I even put the CVO turned aluminum dash on my bike.

Ya know even though the CVO comes "loaded" I've still managed to spend @ about 2k on cosmetic stuff -changing the Radio and gauge backlighting, some chrome doodads, different saddle bag guards to give the wife more comfort  ::) and installing Daymakers and modifying the tourpak lighting into run/turn/brake (more safety than cosmetic  - that's my story and I'm stickin to it).  Then of course @1k for the Fullsac exhaust.. Dang I better stop adding this stuff up in my head... I guess I'm one who just can't leave well enough alone  :huepfenlol2:

I do like the factory custom paint on your Limited. I think it rivals that of the CVO  :2vrolijk_21:
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« Reply #39 on: October 23, 2013, 09:23:09 PM »

That Daytona Blue is the bomb. Seen the Street glide in that color but never a limited. I kinda wish i would of waited to get the Daytona Blue limited but got the CVO Limited in blue. I think the Daytona blue looks bad ass. Imagine it really pops in the sunshine....
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« Reply #40 on: October 24, 2013, 12:24:07 PM »

Ya know even though the CVO comes "loaded" I've still managed to spend @ about 2k on cosmetic stuff -changing the Radio and gauge backlighting, some chrome doodads, different saddle bag guards to give the wife more comfort  ::) and installing Daymakers and modifying the tourpak lighting into run/turn/brake (more safety than cosmetic  - that's my story and I'm stickin to it).  Then of course @1k for the Fullsac exhaust.. Dang I better stop adding this stuff up in my head... I guess I'm one who just can't leave well enough alone  :huepfenlol2:

I do like the factory custom paint on your Limited. I think it rivals that of the CVO  :2vrolijk_21:

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« Reply #41 on: October 25, 2013, 07:26:44 AM »

I traded my 09 cvo intra for a 14. NO REGRETS, i would do it again in a heartbeat!!!  14 is a much nicer bike.
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« Reply #42 on: November 09, 2013, 11:57:57 PM »

Okay, I will first start out by stating that I am foolish/crazy.
On July 26th I bought a new 2013 CVO Ultra Classic...traded in a 2012 Ultra Limited with a little over 27,000 miles on it. Quite frankly I thought that I found heaven ;D. The most important option for me was those crazy power locks...  :huepfenjump3:. It was Tribal orange and I immediately put a thousand miles on it the first week then left on a four thousand mile trip to Sturgis and beyond. Really and truly I thought I was in love. While in the shop for the 5k service my wife called the dealership and told the salesman that I needed the Blaze red Road King CVO that they had on the floor. Through no fault of the bike or Harley I all but hated that bike....(I have been spoiled with the full fairing). I ended up selling that bike to a different dealer for a loss of about $750 plus tax.
The dealership knew that I was interested in a CVO Limited but also thought I was done buying for a while.....I went in to look at a Blaze Red CVO Limited that was sold only to find out that an hour before I got there the customer had cancelled their order......This was actually the hardest decision I have had regarding a bike in a very long time, but I ended up buying it.
I have had the bike for a week and two days and have only put 243 miles on it but it is by far the best machine I have ridden.
I did have buyers remorse for the first few days, but after a 100 mile ride I couldn't imagine going back.
To any one who is on the fence, if you have the money (or for those of you who do not mind financing) I cannot imagine anyone not being happy with the 2014. I do not profess to know what all the changes are nor do I really care, I care about riding pure and simple...and the 2014 excels in that area.
By the way I have the best wife ever...yes she does have a sister and no she is not at all like my wife.
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« Reply #43 on: November 10, 2013, 02:02:09 PM »

Mike85,

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« Reply #44 on: November 11, 2013, 09:03:36 PM »

traded my 09 CVO Ultra for a 2014 Burgandy blaze CVO Limited.  Got top trade in dollar for the 09 which I kept super clean.  In Ohio you only pay sales tax on the difference between trade and new bike cost. It was a no brainer, good by 09 and hello 2014. It rides far superior to the 09 CVO
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« Reply #45 on: November 11, 2013, 10:36:08 PM »

traded my 09 CVO Ultra for a 2014 Burgandy blaze CVO Limited.  Got top trade in dollar for the 09 which I kept super clean.  In Ohio you only pay sales tax on the difference between trade and new bike cost. It was a no brainer, good by 09 and hello 2014. It rides far superior to the 09 CVO
Same here in Iowa. Makes trading a bit more appealing.
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« Reply #46 on: November 18, 2013, 09:51:41 PM »

I would for the 2015 liquid cooled 1800cc X motor and the all new touring frame............
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« Reply #47 on: November 22, 2013, 08:07:51 AM »

I just traded my 06 CUSE in for a 14 Ultra Limited, non CVO. Maybe I'm getting old, but most of the extras that come on the SE bikes just don't appeal to me as much as they used to. I still don't care for the regular Ultra, but the limited has that just right package for me. I don't think or feel that the CVO's hold thier value any better than the non CVO's. They just start at a higher cost. I had my 06 for almost 8 years and was able to get 50% of the original MSRP back in trade. Would have been about the same percentage if it had been a regular Ultra.
 I'm sure glad I traded it when I did as I got a call from my dealer that when they took my trade out for the pre-owned inspection the inner cam bearing exploded and trashed the motor. It had 38K miles and had given me no indications that anything was wrong. The wife and I had just returned from a 900 mile hill country ride the week before.  Maybe for once the Harley gods were in my favor.
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« Reply #48 on: November 22, 2013, 01:49:31 PM »

I just traded my 06 CUSE in for a 14 Ultra Limited, non CVO. Maybe I'm getting old, but most of the extras that come on the SE bikes just don't appeal to me as much as they used to. I still don't care for the regular Ultra, but the limited has that just right package for me. I don't think or feel that the CVO's hold thier value any better than the non CVO's. They just start at a higher cost. I had my 06 for almost 8 years and was able to get 50% of the original MSRP back in trade. Would have been about the same percentage if it had been a regular Ultra.
 I'm sure glad I traded it when I did as I got a call from my dealer that when they took my trade out for the pre-owned inspection the inner cam bearing exploded and trashed the motor. It had 38K miles and had given me no indications that anything was wrong. The wife and I had just returned from a 900 mile hill country ride the week before.  Maybe for once the Harley gods were in my favor.

I did the same thing, traded my 07 CUSE in for a 14 Ultra Limited. I really like the CVO Limited, the extra 12 grand put it out of the budget. My dealer gave me what I considered a fair trade-in value, I was mainly interested in the price difference. I have installed approx. $3,000 in accessories to make it my own. Its habit forming.
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« Reply #49 on: November 22, 2013, 03:11:17 PM »

 :worthless:
I just traded my 06 CUSE in for a 14 Ultra Limited, non CVO. Maybe I'm getting old, but most of the extras that come on the SE bikes just don't appeal to me as much as they used to. I still don't care for the regular Ultra, but the limited has that just right package for me. I don't think or feel that the CVO's hold thier value any better than the non CVO's. They just start at a higher cost. I had my 06 for almost 8 years and was able to get 50% of the original MSRP back in trade. Would have been about the same percentage if it had been a regular Ultra.
 I'm sure glad I traded it when I did as I got a call from my dealer that when they took my trade out for the pre-owned inspection the inner cam bearing exploded and trashed the motor. It had 38K miles and had given me no indications that anything was wrong. The wife and I had just returned from a 900 mile hill country ride the week before.  Maybe for once the Harley gods were in my favor.
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« Reply #50 on: November 22, 2013, 03:22:57 PM »

you have sold me, its CVO it is

we want details, and pics :D

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« Reply #52 on: November 24, 2013, 07:27:33 PM »

Now thats a stand/up Bike... ;D
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« Reply #53 on: November 24, 2013, 07:59:45 PM »

Now thats a stand/up Bike... ;D

LOL  Not sure why it did that or how to fix it. I thought it was a cool pic though as my trade in is the bike in the background.
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