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Limits for our Ultras?
« on: December 28, 2006, 12:53:38 AM »

I recently had a  discussion with a friend who has a very nice 1200 Sportster about our bikes. He commented that the Sportster was meant for the mountain roads and that the Ultra was primarily for the multi-lane slabs. Being new to the Ultra and being polite with a friend I didn't argue the point. I just described a very slow twisty mountain road I recently rode with the Ultra. My thought is that the Sportster can take the mountain twisties faster, but that the Ultra can do just fine on any road where the Sporster or my Dyna would go. I'm not placing any limits on where I take the Ultra, except making sure that my riding skill is up to par on slow manuevering. I would like to know if I am missing anything here, especially if I might someday head into an ackward situation.
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Re: Limits for our Ultras?
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2006, 01:00:55 AM »

Your not missing anything They can go anywhere ya point em and bank em  just with more comfort and style.
my sporster has style also but the ladies prefer the ultra
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Re: Limits for our Ultras?
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2006, 01:22:10 AM »

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Your not missing anything They can go anywhere ya point em and bank em  just with more comfort and style.
my sporster has style also but the ladies prefer the ultra
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I agree the sportster your setting more on top of the bike with the ultra or any bagger your setting down inside the bike and with a hell of lot more comfort. Like a buddy of mine said  After an eight hour ride you'll both be there but the guy on the sporty will be ready for bed, and you on the ultra will be ready to go dancing.

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Re: Limits for our Ultras?
« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2006, 01:55:09 AM »

This reminds me of a ride I had over the North Cascade Highway a few years back.

A bunch of us decided to get together and do the ride over to Winthrop from Bellingham and back.  Maybe 450 miles, we showed up on a three Road Kings, two Ultras and a Buell.

Well you can imagine who thought he had the biggest balls......yup, the twisty bustin' haul assin' Buell.  So off we go.

We're doin' some backroads down to the pass highway and the Buell takes off about three times, does some passes on cages and then is waiting up the road for us.  

So we hit the pass highway which has much more limited access and we are going to be in the wind for a few hours of twisty mountain highway, climbing and descending all the way.  By now I've had about my fill of the Buell guy but I've been hanging back with one of the Road King riders who is new to riding and not exactly keeping up with the others.

We'd go along for awhile and then hold up a bit for him to catch up so I rode with him for 20 miles or so.  Somewhere along in here the Buell drops a couple gears and grabs a handful of throttle..........I had decided that since he enjoyed it so much he may as well have a little company and did the same.

I'm no super bike racer but I do have over thirty years on big bikes and countless miles, the Buell guy wasn't new to riding either, but he wasn't a super bike racer either from what I'd seen.  This is the long way to saying, if you ride within your limits and don't allow yourself to get sucked in, you can stay with most anybody.....at least close enough they know you are there.  

Brake a bit earlier getting into a corner and power up a bit earlier too in most cases and guess what, the Buell guy is looking over his shoulder as much as he's looking up the road.  After about ten minutes of this and the three lights of my Ultra burning in the back of his helmet we came to a construction area and were stopped for the roadwork, as I pulled up he was putting his foot down at a stop and he looked over and said, "oh it's you....I wondered who the hell was keeping up with me."

It wasn't by any stretch a race and I had my hands full the whole time, but the group enjoyed the rest of the day as a group with the Buell in our midst and nary another break away.

What a great day that was in the mountains with some friends.  

Bottom line you can ride the Ultra through the twisties and have a great time and be comfortable as has been said here.  Then get back on it and go right on back, but the Sportster guys will definitely be wishin' they were on the Ultra by the end of the day.

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Re: Limits for our Ultras?
« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2006, 06:42:10 AM »

Its sorta like having a Cadillac and an old Corvette.  If you want to feel the road and be able to use it up, a Sporty will get you there.  The Ultra gets you there about as fast, but in so much more comfort.

I have a Sporty and always will.  Love to get it out for an hour's run regularly.  But if I'm taking Momma or heading out more than 100 miles, I reach for the big boy.  Without hesitation.

They both are wonderful tools to do a slightly different job.
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Re: Limits for our Ultras?
« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2006, 08:08:14 AM »

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I recently had a  discussion with a friend who has a very nice 1200 Sportster about our bikes. He commented that the Sportster was meant for the mountain roads and that the Ultra was primarily for the multi-lane slabs. Being new to the Ultra and being polite with a friend I didn't argue the point. I just described a very slow twisty mountain road I recently rode with the Ultra. My thought is that the Sportster can take the mountain twisties faster, but that the Ultra can do just fine on any road where the Sporster or my Dyna would go. I'm not placing any limits on where I take the Ultra, except making sure that my riding skill is up to par on slow manuevering. I would like to know if I am missing anything here, especially if I might someday head into an ackward situation.

I'm new to this message board and just started yesterday. This past spring I had an 05 black Ultra and we planned a trip to Townsend TN (Smoky Mountains). My wife and I left a day early. We got to townsend just before dark. We had directions to the cabin where we were staying which was only a couple of miles out of town. When we got there, I was shocked to see a hill that looked like Mount Mckinley! YIKES! We need a 4 WD drive to get up that hill! There was no way I was leaving my bike at the booom of the hill by the side of the road. There was no way I was wealking up that hill! I stopped and checked the situation out closely before deciding to git-r-done. It was a good 1/4 mile up the hill to the cabin. Not only did the Utlra do it, It did so remarkably well! We enjoyed ourselfs so much we did it again in September. By this time I'd traded the 05 for this 07 Ultra Classic CVO Screaming Eagle. It also pulled up the jeep trail! Happy 4-wheeeling on 2 wheels!
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Re: Limits for our Ultras?
« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2006, 10:33:44 AM »

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I'm new to this message board and just started yesterday. This past spring I had an 05 black Ultra and we planned a trip to Townsend TN (Smoky Mountains). My wife and I left a day early. We got to townsend just before dark. We had directions to the cabin where we were staying which was only a couple of miles out of town. When we got there, I was shocked to see a hill that looked like Mount Mckinley! YIKES! We need a 4 WD drive to get up that hill! There was no way I was leaving my bike at the booom of the hill by the side of the road. There was no way I was wealking up that hill! I stopped and checked the situation out closely before deciding to git-r-done. It was a good 1/4 mile up the hill to the cabin. Not only did the Utlra do it, It did so remarkably well! We enjoyed ourselfs so much we did it again in September. By this time I'd traded the 05 for this 07 Ultra Classic CVO Screaming Eagle. It also pulled up the jeep trail! Happy 4-wheeeling on 2 wheels!

HB Welcome to the site! Great story if you get a chance post a few pics of the hill climb.

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Re: Limits for our Ultras?
« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2006, 11:01:20 AM »

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I recently had a  discussion with a friend who has a very nice 1200 Sportster about our bikes. He commented that the Sportster was meant for the mountain roads and that the Ultra was primarily for the multi-lane slabs. .  .  .  . I would like to know if I am missing anything here, especially if I might someday head into an ackward situation.

Two things to consider:
1) riding within your own limitations
2) Lean angle of each bike considered

In your case an Ultra vs. a Sortster:
ULTRA = 30º / 32º LH/RH
SPORTSTER = 32º / 32º LH/RH
(spec.'s as posted on the HD web site for stock bikes)

zis help? Oh, yeah! BTW. Welcome to the site. Lots of useless, er ah, useful  ;) info here!
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Re: Limits for our Ultras?
« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2006, 11:05:02 AM »

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HB Welcome to the site! Great story if you get a chance post a few pics of the hill climb.

Ed [smiley=pepper.gif]

YEP Ed  [smiley=huepfenlol2.gif] me too! HB gotta see that . . . AND welcome! [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]
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Re: Limits for our Ultras?
« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2006, 11:36:09 AM »

Welcome to the site Goin and HB.  Good people and good info here.  ;)

Big difference between the sporty and the ultra is, obviously, weight.  You're throwing around a lot more weight with the ultra, but she'll react just as well.  It's just that you know you're throwing that weight around. Especially on the twisties.  But all things being equal.  At the end of the day, I'll take the comfort of the Ultra.  [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]  A sporty was my first Harley...I'll always remember that ride.  But I'm I'm a "geezerglide" guy now...I likes the comfort.  ::)

HB, I'd be interested in seeing some more pics of your bike.  If that's your ride in the Avatar, you've done some things (like removed the tour pak).  I'd like to see some "up close and personal" shots of your B&O Jester.

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Re: Limits for our Ultras?
« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2006, 02:37:25 PM »

Nice thing about the Ultra, it'll do both the twisties and the super slab equally well.  I've ridden with some Sportsters, and if anything, they tend to get in the way on the twisties, so I just pass em.....and well ya don't really have to pass em on the interstates, cause they usually aren't out there.
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Re: testing photo size
« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2006, 05:02:10 PM »

This is not me climbing the hill. I'm taking the photo. It's a Honda 1100.
« Last Edit: December 28, 2006, 05:05:04 PM by flhtcse2004 »
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Re: testing photo size
« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2006, 05:06:28 PM »

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This is not me climbing the hill. I'm taking the photo. It's a Honda 1100.


HB,
Nice pic, it's kind of grey around here lately like seeing the green.

Thanks for posting,
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« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2006, 05:06:33 PM »

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This is not me climbing the hill. I'm taking the photo. It's a Honda 1100.
The best size for viewing is 800X600.

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Re: Limits for our Ultras?
« Reply #14 on: December 28, 2006, 05:06:49 PM »

This is another photo looking down that dreaded hill. The photo does no do it justice. It's steeper than it appears here.
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