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Title: Too old for a sport bike?
Post by: Schnobel on April 30, 2015, 12:12:44 PM
I have had the itch of late to get a sport bike. Not going to track it or anything and not even sure what I want. Haven't owned one since I was 18 and that wasn't a pure crotch rocket but a '85 Honda Nighthawk 700S. Loved that bike and was a hoot to drive.

So now I am in my late 40's and haven't worn any baseball caps backwards in years. :huepfenlol2: Regardless, like soooo many of us that like the feeling of accelerating and carving up a good twisty road, the CVO even with an upgraded motor really isn't built for that.

Going 200mph or having a bike capable of it isn't that important to me. Having something that handles great and can accelerate like a bullet is more inline with what I think is fun.

My wife thinks I'm nuts and too old for that kind of bike. What do you all think?

Same topic, suggestions as to what kind of bike may meet my needs? Ducati Monsters have always caught my eye. BMW K1200R looks like an interesting bike or a Buell 1125CR? Pure crotch rocket or a "sport" bike?

Any insight, suggestions or advice is welcome.
Title: Re: Too old for a sport bike?
Post by: ultrarider123 on April 30, 2015, 12:59:41 PM
I'll chime in first.....I've researched this bike a bit lately and like it.  Still a twin, a more laid back rider stance but a Duc.  Just throwing another option out there for ya.... :2vrolijk_21:

http://www.ducati.com/bikes/diavel/diavel/index.do
Title: Re: Too old for a sport bike?
Post by: Schnobel on April 30, 2015, 01:06:02 PM
I'll chime in first.....I've researched this bike a bit lately and like it.  Still a twin, a more laid back rider stance but a Duc.  Just throwing another option out there for ya.... :2vrolijk_21:

http://www.ducati.com/bikes/diavel/diavel/index.do

Funny, I just discovered that model last night and it does check all of the fun boxes! More upright riding position, accelerates like a banshee yet can still corner. A good suggestion.  :2vrolijk_21:
Title: Re: Too old for a sport bike?
Post by: Dr.D on April 30, 2015, 01:53:22 PM
Well crap if your late 40 and I'm 55 then I am way to old for a sport bike. Tell your young hot and eternally youthful wife (just funning) she is right this time so your getting a Ferrari F430 or an Aston Martin V12 Vantage. Surely those cheap toys are beneath a man of your age and wisdom.

The only thing that might be problematic about the sport bike is that I hear that your IQ drops 30 points when you swing your leg over one. Mine would drop 40.
Title: Re: Too old for a sport bike?
Post by: Ghost__Rider on April 30, 2015, 02:09:37 PM
I would love to have another sport bike, but I turn into a 14 year old when I get on one. I opted to buy a street glide and i've built a hot motor for it and so far it's giving me that speed fix. It's a 107 cu in and it will spank my two buddies that have 120's on their bikes. It's not a crotch Rocket but it's fun as hell outta the hole.
Title: Re: Too old for a sport bike?
Post by: VaEagle on April 30, 2015, 02:22:53 PM
Would this sport bike be your only bike or just an addition?
I have a friend that is in his 60s and loves his sport bike for solo riding. He loves the looks he gets when he removes his full face helmet and others see how old he is riding one. He loves the handling of the sport bike and even though his adult riding started with Harleys he now considers them like tractors. He has several bikes and never understands those who have multiple bikes of the same style and brand, to him you need variety so if he goes on a long trip or rides with his wife he has a Honda touring bike for room and comfort.
He does admit to his age at times when riding the sport bike that he has aches and pains in his wrist and back from the crouching position.
Just my .02 but if you can afford it and are comfortable on one , get it and enjoy while you can. You may find higher insurance rates due to accident rates for that style bike or high theft claims in general. You may also draw some police attention too if there is a "problem" in your community with reckless riders on that style of bike.
Title: Re: Too old for a sport bike?
Post by: Schnobel on April 30, 2015, 02:26:53 PM
I would love to have another sport bike, but I turn into a 14 year old when I get on one. I opted to buy a street glide and i've built a hot motor for it and so far it's giving me that speed fix. It's a 107 cu in and it will spank my two buddies that have 120's on their bikes. It's not a crotch Rocket but it's fun as hell outta the hole.

I built my King to do the same. 0-60 would wax most crotch rockets in a straight line but well, you know the rest they just can't do. Would scrape the floor boards all the time and brakeing not much better.  :-\
Title: Re: Too old for a sport bike?
Post by: Schnobel on April 30, 2015, 02:32:14 PM
I would love to have another sport bike, but I turn into a 14 year old when I get on one. I opted to buy a street glide and i've built a hot motor for it and so far it's giving me that speed fix. It's a 107 cu in and it will spank my two buddies that have 120's on their bikes. It's not a crotch Rocket but it's fun as hell outta the hole.

Hah, I would probably turn into a 14 year old as well. Been 10 years since I bounced down the pavement and that's what the wife is worried about! We all turn off the brains natural "MORON SWITCH" when we throw a leg over these kind of machines. Same as snowmobiling. Seemed like a good idea at the time to go 80-90 MPH through the woods with your buddies 10 ft behind you doing the same thing. No chance of anything going wrong there! :huepfenlol2:
Title: Re: Too old for a sport bike?
Post by: Schnobel on April 30, 2015, 02:34:57 PM
Would this sport bike be your only bike or just an addition?
I have a friend that is in his 60s and loves his sport bike for solo riding. He loves the looks he gets when he removes his full face helmet and others see how old he is riding one. He loves the handling of the sport bike and even though his adult riding started with Harleys he now considers them like tractors. He has several bikes and never understands those who have multiple bikes of the same style and brand, to him you need variety so if he goes on a long trip or rides with his wife he has a Honda touring bike for room and comfort.
He does admit to his age at times when riding the sport bike that he has aches and pains in his wrist and back from the crouching position.
Just my .02 but if you can afford it and are comfortable on one , get it and enjoy while you can. You may find higher insurance rates due to accident rates for that style bike or high theft claims in general. You may also draw some police attention too if there is a "problem" in your community with reckless riders on that style of bike.

No, just an occasional toy to get up the heart rate. Keeping the CVO. Used these bikes are CHEAP! For $5-8K one can buy a lot of bike.
Title: Re: Too old for a sport bike?
Post by: chaos901 on April 30, 2015, 02:57:41 PM
I do not ride them, but I have friends in mid-sixties that ride them a lot.  They gave up H-D years ago. 
Title: Re: Too old for a sport bike?
Post by: 2smoke on April 30, 2015, 03:03:11 PM
Sold my Buell 1125R last summer.  Loved that bike, but it was an orphan and the values were starting to drop.  Paid $4800 for it new, put $800 worth of go-fast mods on it, sold it for $5500, not bad.  I never lost a drag race with that bike.  Some kids at my workplace have Jap crotch rockets and I would make them look stupid every time.  I am now looking for a replacement.  The KTM 1290 Superduke just may do it.  185 HP of insanity.  Plus, I have 2 other KTMs and they are the pinnacle of craftsmanship.  I am 47 years old (still act like I'm 21) and I will lust after fast bikes (and sleds) until I die.
Title: Re: Too old for a sport bike?
Post by: Schnobel on April 30, 2015, 03:51:18 PM
Sold my Buell 1125R last summer.  Loved that bike, but it was an orphan and the values were starting to drop.  Paid $4800 for it new, put $800 worth of go-fast mods on it, sold it for $5500, not bad.  I never lost a drag race with that bike.  Some kids at my workplace have Jap crotch rockets and I would make them look stupid every time.  I am now looking for a replacement.  The KTM 1290 Superduke just may do it.  185 HP of insanity.  Plus, I have 2 other KTMs and they are the pinnacle of craftsmanship.  I am 47 years old (still act like I'm 21) and I will lust after fast bikes (and sleds) until I die.

Don't know anything about KTM's. Have read Triumph Triples are supposed to be very good. Maybe a bit to much "arse" in the air for me. Think I want something more traditional and not all lean forward.

The Buell's are still in that $45-5500 range. Don't know how hard it is to get parts for them or realizability is.
Title: Re: Too old for a sport bike?
Post by: phato1 on April 30, 2015, 08:12:45 PM
Personally I would recommend the Ducati Monster in either the 800 or 1200 cc form  :2vrolijk_21:

I have a 1996 Ducati 900 SS/CR and as much as I love to take 'er out the aggressive ergos are such that after an hour or so I'm ready for a break. A few folks I know have the Monster and the riding position is relaxed (for a Duc) and it will accelerate and handle extremely well - and will let you scare yourself silly just as well as a full on sport bike.

If buying used make sure all the recommended maintenance has been done - ask to see the records - as a disrespected eyetalian mistress can be very vengeful, and expensive to make happy again. The newer Ducs have a longer interval between valve adjustments which helps defray maintenance costs - my '96's recommended valve adjustment interval is every 7500 miles but it does take me several years to reach those because the Duc is a toy I take out maybe once or twice a month just to get my fix  ;)

BTW I'm not exactly a young guy(early fifties) but sometimes I refuse to act my age  :huepfenlol2:
Title: Re: Too old for a sport bike?
Post by: LC110 on April 30, 2015, 08:28:28 PM
I am in my mid 50"s and I have my eye on one of these. http://motusmotorcycles.com/
Title: Re: Too old for a sport bike?
Post by: Road Dad on April 30, 2015, 08:52:04 PM
Do it!  I am older than you and still have a sport bike next to the other bikes. Duc 999.
Title: Re: Too old for a sport bike?
Post by: Trapperdog on April 30, 2015, 09:34:11 PM
Here is a list of many bikes 0-60 times that may supprise you.
http://www.zeroto60times.com/body-style/motorcycle/
I've been eyeballing the KTM 1190 adventure for a while. A glorified dirt bike that will do 0-60 in 2.7 sec
Title: Re: Too old for a sport bike?
Post by: Chains on April 30, 2015, 09:48:03 PM
It is a great feeling to ride a sport bike that handles through the twisties. Sold my Triumph Trophy 1200 last year after I found myself constantly doubling the speed limit. Sure loved the way it handled. Would do it again if I knew I could drive sensible.
Title: Re: Too old for a sport bike?
Post by: Schnobel on April 30, 2015, 11:51:42 PM
Personally I would recommend the Ducati Monster in either the 800 or 1200 cc form  :2vrolijk_21:

I have a 1996 Ducati 900 SS/CR and as much as I love to take 'er out the aggressive ergos are such that after an hour or so I'm ready for a break. A few folks I know have the Monster and the riding position is relaxed (for a Duc) and it will accelerate and handle extremely well - and will let you scare yourself silly just as well as a full on sport bike.

If buying used make sure all the recommended maintenance has been done - ask to see the records - as a disrespected eyetalian mistress can be very vengeful, and expensive to make happy again. The newer Ducs have a longer interval between valve adjustments which helps defray maintenance costs - my '96's recommended valve adjustment interval is every 7500 miles but it does take me several years to reach those because the Duc is a toy I take out maybe once or twice a month just to get my fix  ;)

BTW I'm not exactly a young guy(early fifties) but sometimes I refuse to act my age  :huepfenlol2:

Two Ducs I have looked at online.

Monster S4RS

(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a143/War-Wagon/D5B1474D-898A-46E3-A20F-04BB357B3162_zpstunnfm2y.jpg)

Diavel

(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a143/War-Wagon/06C92BDF-454D-492C-99C9-183B5EF30C9D_zps2cab9jsh.jpg) (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/War-Wagon/media/06C92BDF-454D-492C-99C9-183B5EF30C9D_zps2cab9jsh.jpg.html)

Also looking at this BMW K1200R. Little older but a very well reviewed bike.

(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a143/War-Wagon/9C208474-58A1-4506-B326-9C5DF8BF7F03_zpsaj6cmkxz.jpg) (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/War-Wagon/media/9C208474-58A1-4506-B326-9C5DF8BF7F03_zpsaj6cmkxz.jpg.html)




Title: Re: Too old for a sport bike?
Post by: SDCVO on May 01, 2015, 01:21:53 AM
I am in my mid 50"s and I have my eye on one of these. http://motusmotorcycles.com/
Never seen those before, very interesting!
Title: Re: Too old for a sport bike?
Post by: D-N-D on May 01, 2015, 06:19:29 AM
The Ducati's are sweet !!! that would be the one I go for !!!
Title: Re: Too old for a sport bike?
Post by: phato1 on May 01, 2015, 09:13:14 PM
Two Ducs I have looked at online.

Monster S4RS

(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a143/War-Wagon/D5B1474D-898A-46E3-A20F-04BB357B3162_zpstunnfm2y.jpg)



this one gets my vote -- if we're voting...
Title: Re: Too old for a sport bike?
Post by: mark on May 02, 2015, 10:47:38 AM
Diavel for me if price wasn't a factor.  A more upright riding position, for us old guys...looks like a  Vrod.  These bike just reek "cool."  I'd also take the new Ducati Scrambler.
Title: Re: Too old for a sport bike?
Post by: cambo on May 10, 2015, 11:36:08 AM
Someone posted the video below and seeing it I got the strong urge to get a sportbike myself. I saw a lot of similarities between his riding style and skills and the way I ride my BO and Limited! ;D

https://video-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hvideo-xpa1/v/t43.1792-2/11197591_1036779036352004_1622114344_n.mp4?efg=eyJybHIiOjE1MDAsInJsYSI6MTA3Nn0%3D&rl=1500&vabr=737&oh=2294df4161404fa5e4f405f707c19592&oe=554F97B1

Then I looked in the mirror and realized I might be a little (fifth decade and counting) too old. But I have a buddy Paul in UK who is older than me and rides a Ninja (pictures attached below). Looks like with the proper riding gear, a full face helmet, and in my case losing a few pounds, we can at least look forever young.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8615/16097211604_e8f9a2f439_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/qwsqc7)Dystopia - Escape from Gotham (https://flic.kr/p/qwsqc7)

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8650/16343558679_09f01094e8_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/qUe1At)Paul and Ninja - Jasonesque Scene (https://flic.kr/p/qUe1At)

So I though maybe I will give it a try after all! Why not? We only live twice. I'm looking into getting a matte black Ninja ounce all proper approvals have been granted.

(http://k-ninja6r.cocolog-nifty.com/photos/uncategorized/2013/09/13/14zx1400f_feb.jpg)

Cam
Title: Re: Too old for a sport bike?
Post by: crotalus on October 26, 2015, 06:40:35 PM
(http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk300/Valiant40/b.jpg)

I'm 69 and have been riding a sport bike for years. In '62 this was the sportbike.
Title: Re: Too old for a sport bike?
Post by: TN on October 26, 2015, 06:54:31 PM
It's more fun riding a slow bike fast than riding a fast bike slow.  :drink: yes I've owned some pretty awesome sport bikes in my day.


My touring pig fits the bill.


TN
Title: Re: Too old for a sport bike?
Post by: Wrongway on October 26, 2015, 09:32:29 PM
 I took this picture while hanging with Steve Johnson NHRA team, the "old" guy on the right is my friend
Bud, 72 next month and rides his turbo charged Hayabusa almost daily for the rush. Rear tire life is about 1,800 miles.
 Nope, your not too old.
Title: Re: Too old for a sport bike?
Post by: EZRIDN on October 26, 2015, 11:21:45 PM
It's more fun riding a slow bike fast than riding a fast bike slow.  :drink: yes I've owned some pretty awesome sport bikes in my day.

My touring pig fits the bill.

I'll second all of that!   

Although, if money weren't an object, I'd have a hankerin' to go with one of these... http://www.campagnamotors.com/products/t-rex-16sp/specs.aspx     

Mostly because at my age, my body doesn't bend/fit on my son's Ninja...so, those kind of sport bikes are out of the question for me.
Title: Re: Too old for a sport bike?
Post by: Dr.D on October 27, 2015, 10:40:55 AM
I saw a Busa that looked awful nice to me but I really don't need it. Want it yes but not going to get it-----------------------------------------------yet?????????? :P
Title: Re: Too old for a sport bike?
Post by: Phantom309 on November 04, 2015, 05:51:20 AM
Go for it! You're never too old unless you can't get your leg over the saddle. I think I was 43 when I had my pre-midlife crisis. Be forewarned about a Duc ... I ended up trading in my old '11 RGU after riding both the Diavel and the Mulistrada Granturismo about 1.5 years ago ... they are both a rush, but I took the Multistrada home with me. I typed up a pretty good short novel about both if you feel like searching for it. To sum it up short, it was like riding a comfortable crotch rocket that carries easily removable panniers and top box with 150 hp on tap .... some guys do just that and hit the track with them. My three biggest reasons I got rid of it was I missed the comfort of a real seat that didn't feel like a brick, cruise control and tunes to listen to ... all things I could've fixed if I felt like dumping some $ in it, which I didn't. I was also in fear of losing my license or killing myself on it since I drive for a living so it was back to HD again for me. It was an amazing machine that I do miss, but it was one or the other so it had to go. The suspension on the softest setting was almost like floating on a cloud. Watch this if you haven't yet ... it was what made me check one out in the first place.
    https://youtu.be/ggPEQG3MO1s

Here are both of my reviews on the Ducs ... kinda long-winded, but pretty thorough.

http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=88759.0
Title: Re: Too old for a sport bike?
Post by: Goldrush on November 04, 2015, 03:35:57 PM
I had an 03 suzuki gsxr750
After 1300 miles it was time to get rid of it.
I realized this after me on my bike and my brother in his car left after lunch one day and he said I went by him like he was sitting still on 1 wheel. He was doing 80 and I was unaware that I was on 1 wheel, I was only in second gear.
So fast yet they don't feel like your moving even in the corners. I do miss it. Dam it, now you got me thinking.

Whatever you buy, i know it's no easy but try to hang onto your common sense while your on it.
Good luck and ride Safe.
Title: Re: Too old for a sport bike?
Post by: skycat on November 04, 2015, 05:20:50 PM
Well i guess it depends on your fitness and skill level, i am 60 and love my Buell 1125R its such a hoot and so much fun to ride, parts are cheap for the moment.
Changed the top clamp for the CR and run the later CR bars, 180kg and 156hp at the wheel she is not stock  :2vrolijk_21: hey and if you enjoy playing around with your own maintenance you would enjoy it. 
Title: Too old for a sport bike?
Post by: Bav on November 04, 2015, 05:27:59 PM
I keep thinking about selling my ZZR1400 (ZX14R to those over the pond) as I don't ride it much after getting the SERK. Trouble is every time I do go out on it I am reminded how much fun it is. I'm 52 and do get a few aches and pains especially on a long run but it's still worth it.

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Title: Re: Too old for a sport bike?
Post by: Vyscera on November 04, 2015, 06:55:37 PM
I love the 1125R, but having just worked a parts counter for a HD\Buell dealer I can say that parts for it are going to get harder and harder to find. Short production, then discontinued. I don't know how Buell racing is handling parts, or what might be usable from the newer bikes. They run beautifully when taken care of and are some of the best engineered bikes I've seen. Ive got a sales training booklet from when they came out.  Plus you can order stuff from most HD dealers making it a one stop shop. I'd still get one.
Title: Re: Too old for a sport bike?
Post by: RayG on November 06, 2015, 11:49:48 AM
Well I'm a month short of 62 and I ride my SERK with the S&S 124 plus I ride a 2012 Yamaha FJR.  I like riding both bikes but for longer trips the cruise control and slightly better wind protection and better ergonomics the SERK gets the nod.  The FJR handles very well and the wife actually like both bikes.  The FJR does have the Helli 2" risers and heated grips.  I like the push button windshield but I would be crippled up if I had to take it for a week's ride, just to hunched up for me.  I'm hoping to sell the FJR this winter and get a bike that gives me more protection from the elements for longer trips.  Between the SERK and the fully faired bike I should be all set but I will miss the FJR.  I suspect like many others I drive way to fast on a sports bike or sports tourer.  If I could handle the ergonomics without much discomfort I would keep one as long as I could.
Title: Re: Too old for a sport bike?
Post by: MadCVORG on November 07, 2015, 06:10:32 PM
I'm 53 and still ride my 1993 Yamaha FJ1200, owned since new. Much different ride than my Harley, even though I'm slower these days. Find a comfortable ride.......
Title: Re: Too old for a sport bike?
Post by: BritGuy on November 10, 2015, 12:21:24 AM
I came the other way, From a Z10R to the SERK with a 'breathed on' engine. Needed to slow down when I moved to Canada..... a lot! I do like the look of the Dival. A nice dilema to have.