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[Heatwave]

124 ft lbs of torque from harley of port ritchie facebook page.

Wow!!!

[Toofast_28]

124 ft lbs of torque from harley of port ritchie facebook page.

Not much of a bump from the 110

[WYD OPN]

Not much of a bump from the 110

The 110 was only rated at 115.  I'd say 124 is a nice upgraded baseline.

What am I missing?

[Heatwave]

Not much of a bump from the 110

Not sure how you concluded that? A stock 110 is 80hp/115ft-lbs. I'd say the new 114 with 100hp/124ft-lbs is a DRAMATIC jump in a stock engine performance with only an additional 4ci.

[WYD OPN]

Not sure how you concluded that? A stock 110 is 80hp/115ft-lbs. I'd say the new 114 with 100hp/124ft-lbs is a DRAMATIC jump in a stock engine performance with only an additional 4ci.

Agreed.  This is a huge gain.

[LC110]

2017 SE parts website is up. http://www.harley-davidson.com/shop/screamin-eagle

[Toofast_28]

Not sure how you concluded that? A stock 110 is 80hp/115ft-lbs. I'd say the new 114 with 100hp/124ft-lbs is a DRAMATIC jump in a stock engine performance with only an additional 4ci.

110 was not 80 at the crank, stock trim 110's put down over 80 at the wheel. Mine put down 84hp/103 tq. This 100/124 for the 114 are crank numbers.  Wheel power you're still in the 80's for HP and likely in the 105-110 tq range.

[WYD OPN]

2017 SE parts website is up. http://www.harley-davidson.com/shop/screamin-eagle

Thanks.

On a side note... Just so you'll know, the originally-reported production totals for all FLTRSE3 were missing the JAPAN market totals (which were in a separate portion of the H-D database, and weren't reported to those inquiring).

The actual numbers...
2009 FLTRSE3
Stardust Silver/Titanium Dust:  1,386
DOMESTIC  1,014
CALIFORNIA  111
[USA  1,125]
AUSTRALIA  00
CANADA  65
ENGLAND  00
HDI  154
JAPAN  42
[INTERNATIONAL  261]

[RedMoon]

http://www.harley-davidson.com/content/h-d/en_US/home.html

[WYD OPN]

110 was not 80 at the crank, stock trim 110's put down over 80 at the wheel. Mine put down 84hp/103 tq. This 100/124 for the 114 are crank numbers.  Wheel power you're still in the 80's for HP and likely in the 105-110 tq range.

H-Ds numbers are comparable to each other as a baseline.

110" = 80.6hp & 115tq
114" = 100.6hp & 124tq

Those are from the same metric for equivalence.  Crank or wheel doesn't matter.  They're by the same standard for direct comparison.

Plus 25% for hp.  Plus 8% for tq.

[Heatwave]

HD Catalog just updated. Includes a new stage 3 kit for the 114 bumped to 117. 24% increase in power over the 114.

http://www.harley-davidson.com/store/milwaukee-eight-stage-iii-kit-114ci-to-117ci

[Toofast_28]

H-Ds numbers are comparable to each other as a baseline.

110" = 80.6hp & 115tq
114" = 100.6hp & 124tq

Those are from the same metric for equivalence.  Crank or wheel doesn't matter.  They're by the same standard for direct comparison.

Plus 25% for hp.  Plus 8% for tq.

If the 114 hp is as underrated as the 110, then yes, good bump, but if the 114 is accurate then there's going to be some disappointed people.  I guess we'll find out the truth once someone gets one on the rollers.

One thing that's evident is that the 80.6 crank hp for the 110 was wrong by a lot.  80 crank hp would be in the 60's at the wheel and no one saw anything that low (though I did see some in the mid 70's)

[WYD OPN]

HD Catalog just updated. Includes a new stage 3 kit for the 114 bumped to 117. 24% increase in power over the 114.

http://www.harley-davidson.com/store/milwaukee-eight-stage-iii-kit-114ci-to-117ci

Increases power by up to 24% when compared to the Original Equipment engine configuration
Delivers increased throttle response throughout the entire RPM range
Produces flexible roll-on passing power without a required downshift
Delivers excellent stop-light to freeway speed on-ramp acceleration
Retains Original Equipment Factory Warranty
50-State U.S. EPA compliant
Includes 4.075" Bolt-On Cylinders, Forged 11:1 High Compression Pistons, High performance Piston Rings and Tappets, SE8-498 Cam, Performance Valve Springs, Multi-layer coated Head Gaskets, Cylinder Base & Cam Cover Gaskets, High-Capacity Clutch Spring

Still room for 4.125" cylinders in the future for more displacement.

11.0:1 CR

Nice.

[WYD OPN]

If the 114 hp is as underrated as the 110, then yes, good bump, but if the 114 is accurate then there's going to be some disappointed people.  I guess we'll find out the truth once someone gets one on the rollers.

One thing that's evident is that the 80.6 crank hp for the 110 was wrong by a lot.  80 crank hp would be in the 60's at the wheel and no one saw anything that low (though I did see some in the mid 70's)

I see what you were saying.  Here's hoping it IS the same comparative metric.

[Nemesis]

From HD Germany

110 CVO is 98hp at 3750... So 100hp at 5000rpm