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Re: 2017 CVO MODELS/CHANGES
« Reply #405 on: August 24, 2016, 09:04:23 PM »

Looks like new saddlebag latches also. Screw on? Sorry for the blurry pic.
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Re: 2017 CVO MODELS/CHANGES
« Reply #406 on: August 24, 2016, 09:36:36 PM »

Stopped by the dealer again today. Only one antenna on the new Ultras. At least they were smart enough to put it on the hinge side of the TP.

I believe the CB is now only offered from the factory on the CVO Limited.
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Re: 2017 CVO MODELS/CHANGES
« Reply #407 on: August 24, 2016, 10:05:07 PM »

You guys use the CB? I never have... with cell phones and bluetooth etc. I'm not sure the reason, group riding? Our group is usually 4 bikes or less.
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Re: 2017 CVO MODELS/CHANGES
« Reply #408 on: August 24, 2016, 10:10:29 PM »

You guys use the CB? I never have... with cell phones and bluetooth etc. I'm not sure the reason, group riding? Our group is usually 4 bikes or less.

I use it regularly. Whenever we do long trips we usually have 6-10 bikes together riding 2-up for a week or more. There's no other technology that can cover a mile or so and allow all riders and passengers to hear and participate in the communication. No BT or cell phone technology has yet been developed that allows broad communication to multiple bikes, both rider and passenger with coverage of a mile or more. All other technologies are still a lesser compromise to a CB. At least that I'm aware of for use on a motorcycle.
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Re: 2017 CVO MODELS/CHANGES
« Reply #409 on: August 24, 2016, 10:25:03 PM »

I believe the CB is now only offered from the factory on the CVO Limited.
I believe they made the change in 2014.

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Re: 2017 CVO MODELS/CHANGES
« Reply #410 on: August 24, 2016, 10:27:09 PM »

I checked with a dealer today who had a '17 Ultra Limited on the floor... Only one antenna and no PTT button, so it appears the Limited does NOT come equipped with a CB.

They didn't have a CVO Limited yet, but the pictures all show them having 2 antennas and the specs say the CVO "supports" a CB.  He imagined by that you can order a CB to add on to the CVO Limited, but he wasn't sure at this point if the regular Limited even allowed for that.  :nixweiss:

I realize that many most do not use a CB, but I regularly ride with 20-30 and we use them all the time.  The CB has proven to be a great way (in a large group) to communicate from the back to the front of the line that we've made the light and are all still together as one group, or from the front to back about hazards on the road, etc.

I guess the writing was on the wall when the '14's came out and the PTT and Cruise buttons where switched from one side to the other.  I was told back then that the days were numbered for the CB on bikes.  Too bad, I say.  Even when it is only my wife and I on a trip, I regularly listen to the truckers for what is up ahead and sometimes have great conversations with them... 4 wheelers can't do that as a rule.  Oh well, at least my favourite songs won't get interrupted anymore!  :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: 2017 CVO MODELS/CHANGES
« Reply #411 on: August 24, 2016, 10:34:48 PM »

Read somewhere else the CB was included on the 17 CVO Limited, reliable source.  Not a big deal for me, used to use it a lot.  Last few years CB is more of a PITA to listen to ...nevermind.  Usually mine is left off, to enjoy the road/scenery better.  And the tunes.
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Re: 2017 CVO MODELS/CHANGES
« Reply #412 on: August 25, 2016, 12:01:55 AM »

Interesting that all models will now have the crank compensator similar to the T/C B motors. I was impressed that the oil capacity was increased, but then read that the Road King uses the Oil as the liquid for the "wet head". Lots of changes as a redesign should be, how it will all work out as always remains to be seen. I am glad to see the move that still retains the basic design, more and more challenges with such an old basic design and tighter and tighter emission restrictions. 
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Re: 2017 CVO MODELS/CHANGES
« Reply #413 on: August 25, 2016, 04:39:11 AM »

I believe they made the change in 2014.

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Nope.  This is the first year that there's no CB on the Limited.

That would be a showstopper for me.
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Re: 2017 CVO MODELS/CHANGES
« Reply #414 on: August 25, 2016, 06:26:44 AM »

Nope.  This is the first year that there's no CB on the Limited.

That would be a showstopper for me.

The Ultra Limited only has 1 antenna. The CVO limited still has 2 antennas. I assume that means the CVO LIMITED is the last bike with a CB. Based on the description of the new head sets maybe they truly can replace the CB with the BT headset. http://www.harley-davidson.com/store/boom%21-audio-20s-bluetooth-helmet-dual-headset-pack
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Re: 2017 CVO MODELS/CHANGES
« Reply #415 on: August 25, 2016, 07:10:54 AM »

Got to ride both a 107 Street Glide and a 107 Road Glide last evening. There is no valve train noise to speak of, only a muted swirling sound, the motors on both were very quiet. The exhaust is very quiet on start up and idle but when you give it some throttle the exhaust note picks up and gets louder as you twist. Going down the road the exhaust really doesn't sound bad for an emissions compliant exhaust system. The exhaust sounds pretty good when getting on it, *again, for a stock system.

I am not easily impressed from a performance stand point, but I have to say, for a "stock" out of the box new bike, I was pretty impressed with this new motor (and bike). I didn't beat it up as it's brand new and appreciated the opportunity to get an early test ride but I gave them a pretty good run. The bikes are quick, you can feel the acceleration improvement immediately and once you get up around 2700 and especially 3000 you can really feel the added torque and acceleration. The motor has a loose and quick to respond feel that I have never felt on any stock big twin motor before. In my opinion, the guys that are usually on the fence for a stage one kit will not need to even think about one now.
There was almost NO vibration, which for me I like, when I say almost none I mean very, very little.
Of course there was heat on my right leg but definitely less than the previous. I like the way they have the rear exhaust pipe tucked in close to the motor. It appears like they did most of the turn out in the exhaust port of the head instead of in the pipe, which I also like. (this is only a guess obviously)
All is based on my impressions of "stock" and based on my impressions of this 107, the 114 is going to be a home run.
Of course we need to qualify with the usual "time will tell the full story" but for right out of the box I think they knocked it out of the park.

There was no first gear clunk from either bike and very little comp / chain clunk at any time. There was a muted clunk shifting to the upper gears but 5th and 6th was very quiet as was down shifting. Finding neutral was easier than in the past, for a new bike.

I went looking for every bump I could find and found this to be the smoothest riding "Harley" (non ultra) "Stock" I have ever been on. We already know that they changed the front end and it was smooth. I know the rear shocks appear to be the previous hand adjustables but sure seamed to be an improved version, maybe they have simply re-valved or changed dampening. I didn't take time to read anything about the rears so maybe the answer is right in front of me?
I took them both to near scraping the floor boards and the bikes felt planted and I felt no need to back off whatsoever, there was a very good feeling of stability.

I didn't take time to play with any gadgets, sound system sounded good on both.

And before you think it.............. I'm no coolaid drinker, just my unbiased opinion.
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Re: 2017 CVO MODELS/CHANGES
« Reply #416 on: August 25, 2016, 07:27:21 AM »

Nope.  This is the first year that there's no CB on the Limited.

That would be a showstopper for me.
Sorry, I was referring to the Ultra. I first noticed no CB in 2014. Thanks for the info on the 2017 Limited.

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Re: 2017 CVO MODELS/CHANGES
« Reply #417 on: August 25, 2016, 07:44:06 AM »

Looks like new saddlebag latches also. Screw on? Sorry for the blurry pic.

Thanks for the pic of the new saddlebag connectors.  Another "good" idea from the MoCo engineering department that never thought about how intrusive items like this are.  The old connectors weren't in the way....these new ones would catch on everything you put into or take out of the bags.... :nixweiss:
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Re: 2017 CVO MODELS/CHANGES
« Reply #418 on: August 25, 2016, 07:45:53 AM »

Got to ride both a 107 Street Glide and a 107 Road Glide last evening. There is no valve train noise to speak of, only a muted swirling sound, the motors on both were very quiet. The exhaust is very quiet on start up and idle but when you give it some throttle the exhaust note picks up and gets louder as you twist. Going down the road the exhaust really doesn't sound bad for an emissions compliant exhaust system. The exhaust sounds pretty good when getting on it, *again, for a stock system.

I am not easily impressed from a performance stand point, but I have to say, for a "stock" out of the box new bike, I was pretty impressed with this new motor (and bike). I didn't beat it up as it's brand new and appreciated the opportunity to get an early test ride but I gave them a pretty good run. The bikes are quick, you can feel the acceleration improvement immediately and once you get up around 2700 and especially 3000 you can really feel the added torque and acceleration. The motor has a loose and quick to respond feel that I have never felt on any stock big twin motor before. In my opinion, the guys that are usually on the fence for a stage one kit will not need to even think about one now.
There was almost NO vibration, which for me I like, when I say almost none I mean very, very little.
Of course there was heat on my right leg but definitely less than the previous. I like the way they have the rear exhaust pipe tucked in close to the motor. It appears like they did most of the turn out in the exhaust port of the head instead of in the pipe, which I also like. (this is only a guess obviously)
All is based on my impressions of "stock" and based on my impressions of this 107, the 114 is going to be a home run.
Of course we need to qualify with the usual "time will tell the full story" but for right out of the box I think they knocked it out of the park.

There was no first gear clunk from either bike and very little comp / chain clunk at any time. There was a muted clunk shifting to the upper gears but 5th and 6th was very quiet as was down shifting. Finding neutral was easier than in the past, for a new bike.

I went looking for every bump I could find and found this to be the smoothest riding "Harley" (non ultra) "Stock" I have ever been on. We already know that they changed the front end and it was smooth. I know the rear shocks appear to be the previous hand adjustables but sure seamed to be an improved version, maybe they have simply re-valved or changed dampening. I didn't take time to read anything about the rears so maybe the answer is right in front of me?
I took them both to near scraping the floor boards and the bikes felt planted and I felt no need to back off whatsoever, there was a very good feeling of stability.

I didn't take time to play with any gadgets, sound system sounded good on both.

And before you think it.............. I'm no coolaid drinker, just my unbiased opinion.

Thanks for sharing
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« Reply #419 on: August 25, 2016, 09:00:05 AM »

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