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[OBB]

I do not ever recall seeing that type of discounting before, but then I don't get out much.

Would love to see the MoCo decrease production and create some serious demand for bikes both new and used, kind of like the old days.

No kidding. With the revamped new and improved assembly line they did a few years ago, they're cranking out something like 300 bikes an hour at the York plant alone. 300 bikes x 10 hours x 4 days a week = 12,000 bikes a week.

[ultrafxr]

prime examples of the diverse crowd we have here. 

The 2017 MY technical document has allot of info for those who are interested. I haven't seen it in PDF format yet. 

TN

Do you have a link?

[ultrafxr]

I do not ever recall seeing that type of discounting before, but then I don't get out much.

Would love to see the MoCo decrease production and create some serious demand for bikes both new and used, kind of like the old days.

I don't think that was all that purposeful.  They got past the AFM phase and came out with the EVO then the Twinkie and the boomers got real interested and started buying lots more than they were capable of producing.  So they upped production.  Now they have to make that investment pay for itself and purposefully letting it sit idle to reduce production is not what they will be doing in my opinion.  Any production decrease will be because of less demand.   

[iski]

I don't think that was all that purposeful.  They got past the AFM phase and came out with the EVO then the Twinkie and the boomers got real interested and started buying lots more than they were capable of producing.  So they upped production.  Now they have to make that investment pay for itself and purposefully letting it sit idle to reduce production is not what they will be doing in my opinion.  Any production decrease will be because of less demand.   

Agreed.  Over supply and/or weaker demand creates lower price points, that is what has happened to some remaining 16s.  Harley has avoided going the route of auto manufacturers with inflated MSRPs that nobody pays much attention to on the majority of models.  If Harley continues to over supply this new bike discounting will affect the used bike market more & more. 

Not sure what their production strategy is anymore.  They are also watching overall market share & figure they do not want to lose a big chunk of that to Indian.  Price is a factor in that as well.

[guppytrash]

Well after listening to the new M-8 idle I will say HD is well on the way to offering a finished product.  Nice and quiet. 
I have been making fun of the hand pump air suspension for a while now, and it looks like they made some moves towards a higher quality suspension.
From the reviews I'm reading it does not sound like this is another factory thigh burner, so again moving in a positive direction.

Glad to see HD making some improvements. 
 
Wonder what the resale value of a 2017 will be in a couple of years.

[Billy]

I did not buy a Harley thinking I could make money. Look at cars they are worthless in 5 yrs not even half the value.  This is a hobby not an investment. Billy Just have fun.

[bbrown]

Did anyone see the new cvo's at the Milwaukee ralley.? Heard they were on display at the museum.   If anyone has real sesg photos of the 2017 please post

[fastfreddy]

 I saw the 2017 CVO breakout and they still have the 110 motor  whats the story behind that   

[JoeVibe]

Did anyone see the new cvo's at the Milwaukee ralley.? Heard they were on display at the museum.   If anyone has real sesg photos of the 2017 please post

This is a pretty good video. It shows all four colors.

[grc]

I saw the 2017 CVO breakout and they still have the 110 motor  whats the story behind that   

The new engine is only being rolled out to the Touring line at this time.  It will be added to the other models in the future, probably next year I would guess.  That's a normal method for Harley when bringing out new stuff.  When it was CAN bus electrical systems they started with Softails, then later Dyna's, and only recently (2014) did they add it to Touring models.  Same with the original Twin Cam which was introduced in Dyna's and Touring models first, then later the B model engine with a balance shaft was introduced for the Softails.

As for why a company might do things this way, one reason is a lack of enough engineering support to keep that many balls in the air at one time.  It also gives them an opportunity to try to debug things on only one platform before expanding it to the entire model lineup.  That was the idea behind launching the new Twin Cam with Cruise Drive in 2006 on the low volume Dyna models.  Unfortunately that one didn't work out so well, as the folks who bought 2007 Touring models will attest.

Jerry

[Jswerve]

This is a pretty good video. It shows all four colors.

I've kept a close eye every year since I bought my '12. Nothing has grabbed at me look she does. I will say this year that the Candy Cobalt/Indigo Blue is a gorgeous bike. Blue has always been my favorite color at least until I discovered Ruby Red. It still isn't nice enough to get me to trade though. 

[yobtaf103]

They still have the cigarette lighter?

[Toofast_28]

They still have the cigarette lighter?

If you're referring to the cigarette lighter looking object on the left of the GPS, that's the headset plugin.

[OBB]

They still have the cigarette lighter?

Nope, they did away with them in either '14 or '15 and replaced them with a higher amp power port. When I bought my '15, I promptly replaced that power port with a cigarette lighter.

[TN]

At least the 2017 is not directing crank case venting directly to the throttle body. 


TN