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Re: SYN 3 decree
« Reply #45 on: August 31, 2007, 11:24:16 AM »
Another debate is the use of automotive oil verses the motorcycle oil. The only real difference in a good syn auto oil and the motorcycle oil is the amount of zinc and phosphorus, auto oils are restricted as to the amount of zinc and phosphorus they can have, it has to do with damage caused to the catalytic converter. So motorcycle oil can have more of these antiware agents. The question is the extra amount of these agents really helping your bike and worth the extra money. Experts say that for GP race bikes and other sever use motorcycles the added protection is worth it, but for 90% of the street bikes it's not really getting you anything. So it's perfectly fine to run the good automotive syn oil of the correct weight in your bike. Below is a link to nightrider talking about this, also the oil bible document talks about this too.

http://www.nightrider.com/biketech/oiltest1.htm
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Re: SYN 3 decree
« Reply #46 on: August 31, 2007, 01:12:11 PM »
I have run both the syn 3 and Amsoil in the same motor on the same bike, and you can believe it or not, but with Amsoil the motor runs quieter and cooler than with syn 3...a solid 10-15 degrees cooler on a hot day.  I changed to Amsoil, it's easy to get, and I'm sticking with it.  $92.35 per case of 12 for the V-Twin oil delivered to my door...that's $7.66 per quart...order one day, receive it the next day drop shipped from the nearest warehouse...don't have to go looking for it...it just don't get any easier than that for me.  'Nuff said...
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Re: SYN 3 decree
« Reply #47 on: August 31, 2007, 01:55:04 PM »
Didja just drain the old out and refill or didja flush it somehow?

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Re: SYN 3 decree
« Reply #48 on: August 31, 2007, 01:58:43 PM »
Quote from: miker on August 31, 2007, 01:55:04 PM
Didja just drain the old out and refill or didja flush it somehow?

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Miker, I just drained out the old and put in the new.  Took four quarts.  I use Amsoil in the primary too.
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Re: SYN 3 decree
« Reply #49 on: August 31, 2007, 02:07:23 PM »
Quote from: miker on August 31, 2007, 01:55:04 PM
Didja just drain the old out and refill or didja flush it somehow?

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Miker...no need to flush it out.  Just get all the fluids nice and hot, then drain everything.  There might be 6 or 8 ounces left in the crankcase, but that's not enough to do any harm, and it will blend with the good stuff just fine.  Amsoil or Mobil 1 Vtwin...either will do the job.
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Re: SYN 3 decree
« Reply #50 on: August 31, 2007, 02:15:09 PM »
Thanks, I will swap out fluids in the next week or so once I commence to aquire them. 
Is the HD oil filter all there is or is there an alternatice for the 110? That way I can have the pleasure of giving my money to someone else other the them, they got enough from me over the years..
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Now to get some non-deteregent dino oil for the oldster.

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Re: SYN 3 decree
« Reply #51 on: August 31, 2007, 02:20:09 PM »
Quote from: miker on August 31, 2007, 02:15:09 PM
Thanks, I will swap out fluids in the next week or so once I commence to aquire them. 
Is the HD oil filter all there is or is there an alternatice for the 110? That way I can have the pleasure of giving my money to someone else other the them, they got enough from me over the years..
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Now to get some non-deteregent dino oil for the oldster.

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Personally, I use the K&N chrome oil filter.  It has a nut welded on the end of the filter which is a great help in getting the old one off...ratchet, extension, socket. 
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Re: SYN 3 decree
« Reply #52 on: August 31, 2007, 02:47:30 PM »
OK guys as it turns out I have a way of ordering Amsoil via mail...is it worth nearly $2 more than Mobil 1 plus having to mail the stuff.  What would a good price for Redline heavy shock proof be and is there a viable alternative thick viscosity gear oil as a substitute (75-250 or some such is what Redline is rated) if I can't find a place to get it here; also what is the alternative in the 3rd hole just put Mobil 1 or Amsoil there too.

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Re: SYN 3 decree
« Reply #53 on: August 31, 2007, 03:01:46 PM »
Amsoil in the motor and primary, Redline Heavy Duty Shockproof in the tranny.   If Amsoil is $2 more per quart than Mobil 1 over there, then I would stick with Mobil 1...there is not that much difference between the two.  I get the Redline from a local indie, so I don't have a good online source.  Tried to buy it from www.myoilshop.com, but it was a terrible experience and had to get my money refunded...never again from them.
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Re: SYN 3 decree
« Reply #54 on: August 31, 2007, 03:04:29 PM »
Quote from: SCRM-R on August 31, 2007, 03:01:46 PM
Amsoil in the motor and primary, Redline Heavy Duty Shockproof in the tranny.   If Amsoil is $2 more per quart than Mobil 1 over there, then I would stick with Mobil 1...there is not that much difference between the two.  I get the Redline from a local indie, so I don't have a good online source.  Tried to buy it from www.myoilshop.com, but it was a terrible experience and had to get my money refunded...never again from them.
SCRM-R, sorry to hear about your bad experience.  I recently purchased Redline from them and had no problem at all. 
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Re: SYN 3 decree
« Reply #55 on: August 31, 2007, 03:05:24 PM »
Thnx SCRM-R

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Re: SYN 3 decree
« Reply #56 on: September 05, 2007, 10:30:51 PM »
Drained Syn3 out once I got the bike home. Used it in the lawn mower and for killing weeds.  :huepfenlol2: I use Amsoil in all three holes and all is good. It even runs out the heads just fine too! Did I mention that my new Ultra leaks. . .  :nixweiss:
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Re: SYN 3 decree
« Reply #57 on: September 06, 2007, 10:27:37 AM »
Quote from: UglyJohn on September 05, 2007, 10:30:51 PM
Drained Syn3 out once I got the bike home. Used it in the lawn mower and for killing weeds.  :huepfenlol2: I use Amsoil in all three holes and all is good. It even runs out the heads just fine too! Did I mention that my new Ultra leaks. . .  :nixweiss:
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