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[9 1/2 Beers]

We've been warming since the ice age, i'm not going for it

[Midnight Rider]

Climate change is the only way to think of this...weather patterns are changing.  Geez...this is not a conspiricy by the world's most prominent scientists to steal your tax dollars or make your life unpleasant.

How can 8 Billion of us NOT have an impact?  There is no question about it...we are part of the problem.  That fact is indisputable by any reasonable person.  Of course, if you choose to believe the moon is made of blue cheese, there's not a hell of a lot anyone is going to be able to say to convince you otherwise.

Most of the "scientists" who are disputing climate change are those who are paid by those who have an interest in things staying exactly as they are.

Al Gore is not the only one saying this, for chrisakes.

The weather records are contained in many things other than those man made, so how long we've been recording things is irrelevant to the argument.

Please stop sticking your nose out the front door to test for Global Warming.  This is serious chit, so do some open minded research on the subject.  Of course, if you've already got your mind made up, no sense in exploring alternative views/facts...they'll just confuse you.

[Hoist!]

Climate change is the only way to think of this...weather patterns are changing.  Geez...this is not a conspiricy by the world's most prominent scientists to steal your tax dollars or make your life unpleasant.

How can 8 Billion of us NOT have an impact?  There is no question about it...we are part of the problem.  That fact is indisputable by any reasonable person.  Of course, if you choose to believe the moon is made of blue cheese, there's not a hell of a lot anyone is going to be able to say to convince you otherwise.

Most of the "scientists" who are disputing climate change are those who are paid by those who have an interest in things staying exactly as they are.

Al Gore is not the only one saying this, for chrisakes.

The weather records are contained in many things other than those man made, so how long we've been recording things is irrelevant to the argument.

Please stop sticking your nose out the front door to test for Global Warming.  This is serious chit, so do some open minded research on the subject.  Of course, if you've already got your mind made up, no sense in exploring alternative views/facts...they'll just confuse you.

Just proloning the inevitable. While the people keep multipying like rabbits all over, eventually no matter what you do, this place will go "Tilt"! Who know's the ultimate destiny. Do we really have any control over it, or do we just impact it at the time, with no ultimate effect anyway. Mankind here is just one small phase of what this whole "perceived" thing is all about! Why do we think it's about us anyway?

Hoist!

[VAZHOG]

Just proloning the inevitable. While the people keep multipying like rabbits all over, eventually no matter what you do, this place will go "Tilt"! Who know's the ultimate destiny. Do we really have any control over it, or do we just impact it at the time, with no ultimate effect anyway. Mankind here is just one small phase of what this whole "perceived" thing is all about! Why do we think it's about us anyway?

Hoist!

Mother Nature Will shake us off like a Bad Cold 

[Midnight Rider]

Just proloning the inevitable. While the people keep multipling like rabbits all over, eventually no matter what you do, this place will go "Tilt"! Who know's the ultimate destiny. Do we really have any control over it, or do we just impact it at the time, with no ultimate effect anyway. Mankind here is just one small phase of what this whole "perceived" thing is all about! Why do we think it's about us anyway?

Hoist!

There are simply too many of us to ever be completely wiped out...it would be like trying to wipe out cockroaches.  The question is how would we prefer to reduce our impact...voluntarily, or not?  It WILL happen, one way or the other.  Certainly not in my lifetime, so I guess I should say 'ah, to hell with it, let somebody else deal with the problem'.  Just like I'd rather see people control the population by some other means than war, pestilence, or famine, but either way, it'll happen.  One way may be more pleasant than the other, however.

[Hoist!]

Mother Nature Will shake us off like a Bad Cold 

 

Hoist!

[naitram]

basic astronomy tels us that "we" will not be here for ever nor will the ice caps. no it wont be in our life time, so we should do htings that can improve our short term longevity on this planet


Supernova for Dummies version:

         Scientists say that a star's lifetime is around 10 billion years old, and right now the Sun is about 5 billion years old, so it should be (you can do the statistical math). When the Sun goes supernova, be ready to say bye bye to mommy.
         After 10 billion years is up the Sun will start to expand and swell up like a fat man at an all you can eat bar. As it increases in size, it will devour Mercury, Venus and com a little too close to home. As the temperature increases we will be toasted beings, actually dead ones. The crust of the sun would remain rather cool than normal, only about 3,000 kelvin. Its normal temperature is about 6,000 kelvin. Within a quick time the star's core collapses and then explodes, leaving a black hole, matter and some  heat from the sun being blown out into space. The explosion can be seen from many galaxies away due to the bright light it emits. Strong gravitational pulling occurs as the black hole sucks everything into oblivion. Now on your merry little journey to oblivion, planets, comets and mass objects may collide creating catastrophes within a catastrophe.

[miker]

basic astronomy tels us that "we" will not be here for ever nor will the ice caps. no it wont be in our life time, so we should do htings that can improve our short term longevity on this planet


Supernova for Dummies version:

         Scientists say that a star's lifetime is around 10 billion years old, and right now the Sun is about 5 billion years old, so it should be (you can do the statistical math). When the Sun goes supernova, be ready to say bye bye to mommy.
         After 10 billion years is up the Sun will start to expand and swell up like a fat man at an all you can eat bar. As it increases in size, it will devour Mercury, Venus and com a little too close to home. As the temperature increases we will be toasted beings, actually dead ones. The crust of the sun would remain rather cool than normal, only about 3,000 kelvin. Its normal temperature is about 6,000 kelvin. Within a quick time the star's core collapses and then explodes, leaving a black hole, matter and some  heat from the sun being blown out into space. The explosion can be seen from many galaxies away due to the bright light it emits. Strong gravitational pulling occurs as the black hole sucks everything into oblivion. Now on your merry little journey to oblivion, planets, comets and mass objects may collide creating catastrophes within a catastrophe.

Duat to dust!

[Midnight Rider]

basic astronomy tels us that "we" will not be here for ever nor will the ice caps. no it wont be in our life time, so we should do htings that can improve our short term longevity on this planet


Supernova for Dummies version:

         Scientists say that a star's lifetime is around 10 billion years old, and right now the Sun is about 5 billion years old, so it should be (you can do the statistical math). When the Sun goes supernova, be ready to say bye bye to mommy.
         After 10 billion years is up the Sun will start to expand and swell up like a fat man at an all you can eat bar. As it increases in size, it will devour Mercury, Venus and com a little too close to home. As the temperature increases we will be toasted beings, actually dead ones. The crust of the sun would remain rather cool than normal, only about 3,000 kelvin. Its normal temperature is about 6,000 kelvin. Within a quick time the star's core collapses and then explodes, leaving a black hole, matter and some  heat from the sun being blown out into space. The explosion can be seen from many galaxies away due to the bright light it emits. Strong gravitational pulling occurs as the black hole sucks everything into oblivion. Now on your merry little journey to oblivion, planets, comets and mass objects may collide creating catastrophes within a catastrophe.

No doubt, something like this will happen.

The next 50-100 thousand years is what concerns me.  I'll be dead, but I'm trying to think about those of you who have children, and what future generations might face because of present generations unwillingness to look past the end of our collective noses.

[Keats]

Climate change is the only way to think of this...weather patterns are changing.  Geez...this is not a conspiricy by the world's most prominent scientists to steal your tax dollars or make your life unpleasant.

Scientists would never exaggerate, shade the truth or lie to promote their own agenda to get a free grab at Federal Grants (Dollars) that would never happen. The Scientist on the other side are corrupted by money?


How can 8 Billion of us NOT have an impact?  There is no question about it...we are part of the problem.
Hitler was the earliest Global Warming Advocate he was trying to get rid of Half of us.

  That fact is indisputable by any reasonable person.
this is what I love most....you are not reasonable if you not subscrib to that train of thought

  Of course, if you choose to believe the moon is made of blue cheese,
enlighten me....it is not made of Blue cheese?   See we must be morons

 there's not a hell of a lot anyone is going to be able to say to convince you otherwise.

Most of the "scientists" who are disputing climate change are those who are paid by those who have an interest in things staying exactly as they are.

See, if you disagree with the point view, the scientists must be corrupt

Al Gore is not the only one saying this, for chrisakes.

You would think they could come up with a better Poster Child than that! and you call GW a moron


The weather records are contained in many things other than those man made, so how long we've been recording things is irrelevant to the argument.

Please stop sticking your nose out the front door to test for Global Warming.  This is serious chit, so do some open minded research on the subject.  Of course, if you've already got your mind made up, no sense in exploring alternative views/facts...they'll just confuse you.

I told you all (yall) we are just to stupid to understand

[Midnight Rider]

I've told you once already...I am not in a pissing contest with you over this, I have not said or implied that anyone on this site was a moron.  If you cannot accept an alternative viewpoint without making it a personal attack, please take your responses directed straight at me to PM's, and we can really go at it, if that's what you want.

[naitram]

guys lets keep it civil.... if we all believed the same htings we wouldnt need this thread in the first place

[RedDevil]

So far I've seen a lot of words and not a lick of proof on anything.  Using the Don "Twolane" approach to global warming, I have photographic proof that global warming is, in fact, real.

 

[Chief]

So far I've seen a lot of words and not a lick of proof on anything.  Using the Don "Twolane" approach to global warming, I have photographic proof that global warming is, in fact, real.

 

That only leads to one question. What's next? 

[Hoist!]

Terry, I think you'll dig this one!

http://www.motherjones.com/commentary/fiore/2006/08/hoax.html

Not an editorial from me. I just thought it was funny.

Hoist!