Topic: Freedom Cycles (Read 8636 times)

JCZ · « **on:** May 14, 2005, 06:23:43 PM »

HD Dude (Jim) and I left Sacramento yesterday afternoon and rode to Reno. Stayed with friends of mine, Joe and Connie (they both ride).

Joe and Connie live about five miles north of Sparks, on a mountain that overlooks the whole Reno/Sparks area. At night time, wow, what a site. Beautiful view of snow capped Mt. Rose, also.

The ride up was uneventful but very nice, as we climbed to the top of Donner Pass (7,400 ft. elevation I believe). Snow banks on both sides of the road, all the mountains covered and we're in t-shirts (actually, I was in a sleevless shirt). Just a very nice day.

Woke up early this morning to the sounds of Connie's huge parrot saying "Whatcha doing?" We found our way to So. Virginia Street and eventually found Freedom Cycles (they're in the back, behind a commercial/industrial area). Those guys were all very friendly and have one of the nicest dyno booth set ups that I've ever saw, including a viewing window for the spectators. The booth is totally sound proof........we were very surprised and impressed. They dialed Jim's bike (I'll let him tell you his experience) and explained everything, every step of the way.

When we first got there, he took Jim's bike in and loaned Jim a new Triumph, so that he and I could go to breakfast. First class customer service.

I mentioned to them that I am a moderator on the CVO owner's web site and that they've sold a lot of their set-ups to members of our site. They went on to share some of the conversations that they've had with members of our site (all in good fun, of course). Jim and I had a few good laughs and were actually surprised at some of the things we heard.

Having said that, I have one question and one comment. At Maggies Valley........who was it that beat everybody out there (with every motor configuration that you can think of) and showed them what the Freedom Cycles package was all about from the inside out and from the rear.......of their exhaust, as they run off and left them?? [smiley=nixweiss.gif]

That was my question.......my comment..........the rest of you need to start telling the truth. [smiley=huepfenlol2.gif]

All kidding aside, it was a great ride and a great time and those guys at Freedom Cycle seem to know their business and are not afraid to let their customer watch or ask questions (no, I do not have the Freedom Cycle package, but wished I did). They're a great bunch of guys, very down to earth and very friendly. They tried there damndest to get me to test ride one of those 2400 cc Triumph three cylinders (scarred me! LOL). They also showed me the dyno sheet of that bike stock, compared to a Road King that had head work, Race Tuner, and Thunderheader..........no comparison.

They showed us a dyno graph of a yellow SEEG that he did yesterday. My guess is that would have been Monorat's (from this site). Very nice graph!

hd-dude · « **Reply #1 on:** May 14, 2005, 09:11:25 PM »

JC;
You've said it all very weel. Good report on our great trip, (except the rain last night). The customer service their is Exemplary!!. The ride on the Triump Boneville was fun, but i'll never give up my SEEG!!

So here it is, my bike came in at 100hp and 101.6 tq. This is with the freedom package as delivered to me. When Brad was done working his magic I had 103 hp and 104.4 tq.
I've posted the Dyno Graph in the Dyno thread:http://flhrsei.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=eg_gen;action=display;num=1072508181;start=285

Thanks for the company JC!

hd-dude · « **Reply #2 on:** May 14, 2005, 09:15:37 PM »

I forgat to add that Brad would not let me pay him for the tune. These guys have earned my respect and future biz!!! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

hd2003-se2005 · « **Reply #3 on:** May 14, 2005, 09:40:11 PM »

hd-dude

Those are great #s.
My #s came in at almost the same as your first ones. Just wish I was closer than 2500 miles away so I could get that "fine" tuning!

I have been telling everyone. These are fine guys! And they know how to make horsepower! I talked with Rick today about some other options for mine.

Those soundproof dyno rooms are impressive. I stood about 5 feet from my bike as they were testing it and even when running wide open the sound was barely above a whisper! Did the room look something like this?

[smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]

hd2003-se2005 · « **Reply #4 on:** May 14, 2005, 09:41:39 PM »

and this

hd-dude · « **Reply #5 on:** May 14, 2005, 10:43:04 PM »

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hd-dude

Those are great #s.
My #s came in at almost the same as your first ones. Just wish I was closer than 2500 miles away so I could get that "fine" tuning!

I have been telling everyone. These are fine guys! And they know how to make horsepower! I talked with Rick today about some other options for mine.

Those soundproof dyno rooms are impressive. I stood about 5 feet from my bike as they were testing it and even when running wide open the sound was barely above a whisper! Did the room look something like this?

[smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]

The inards did..The walls were concrete blocks. Did you post your sheet?

hd2003-se2005 · « **Reply #6 on:** May 14, 2005, 10:56:08 PM »

I did on the Lowrider

Read my post in the other topics section.

Maybe you have an idea of whats up!

JCZ · « **Reply #7 on:** May 14, 2005, 11:15:09 PM »

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JC;
You've said it all very weel. Good report on our great trip, (except the rain last night).

Wasn't going to tell them that we ride in the rain, too. Hell, those boys from back east pack it up in trucks and trailers when it looks like rain.........didn't want em melting when they read that we ride in it. [smiley=huepfenlol2.gif]

JCZ · « **Reply #8 on:** May 14, 2005, 11:17:37 PM »

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hd-dude

Those are great #s.
My #s came in at almost the same as your first ones. Just wish I was closer than 2500 miles away so I could get that "fine" tuning!

[smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]

What better reason than to join us for the West Coast CVO Owners GTG and ride, Street Vibrations and Freedom Cycles! What more could you want for your money?

By the way, the dyno room is a small cynder block building inside the shop. We're thinking the blocks had to be filled to, cause it was very quiet standing on the outside, with that bike at WOT.

hd2003-se2005 · « **Reply #9 on:** May 14, 2005, 11:22:44 PM »

. " Hell, those boys from back east pack it up in trucks and trailers when it looks like rain.........didn't want em melting when they read that we ride in it. "

Hey Brian, Don, Otis, Tommy and everyone!
Bet JCZ has never been on anything like the Dragon in the rain.
He will say he has, but they don't call the Dragon the curviest road in America (excluding California maybe???) for nothing.
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JCZ · « **Reply #10 on:** May 14, 2005, 11:26:19 PM »

Chip..........quit stallin. You're avoiding the invitation to come and join us. We'd like to meet you, show ya around a little, talk motorcycles and you can tell us all the stories you want about those "mountains" back east. [smiley=huepfenlol2.gif] [smiley=1syellow1.gif] [smiley=6.gif] [smiley=7.gif] [smiley=6.gif] [smiley=huepfenlol2.gif]

110tHunDer · « **Reply #11 on:** May 14, 2005, 11:32:30 PM »

JC, let it die, man! I haven't seen one guy (or group of guys) get this much grief since the post deletion scandal a few weeks back, LOL! I put 1,100 miles on my bike down there and over half of it was in the rain. I have 50 of my closest friends as witnesses.

I picture your image of the Smoky Mtn. Gathering as a bunch of bikes trailered in and everyone hanging out in the motel parking lot drinking beer for a week. Oh, wait, we did do that, but we rode a lot too, bro'!! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

JCZ · « **Reply #12 on:** May 14, 2005, 11:37:13 PM »

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JC, let it die, man! I haven't seen one guy (or group of guys) get this much grief since the post deletion scandal a few weeks back, LOL! I put 1,100 miles on my bike down there and over half of it was in the rain. I have 50 of my closest friends as witnesses.

I picture your image of the Smoky Mtn. Gathering as a bunch of bikes trailered in and everyone hanging out in the motel parking lot drinking beer for a week. Oh, wait, we did do that, but we rode a lot too, bro'!! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Brian.......don't be so defensive.......I was only razzing those that trailered. OOooopppsss.......just figured it out.......you got reason to be defensive, you trailered too! [smiley=huepfenlol2.gif]

Hey, was only responding to comments in reference to me but since you invited yourself in.......come on in......the water's fine. [smiley=huepfenlol2.gif]

110tHunDer · « **Reply #13 on:** May 14, 2005, 11:39:13 PM »

I think somehow Chip sucked me in and now I'm drowning, LOL. [smiley=nervous.gif]

Twolanerider · « **Reply #14 on:** May 14, 2005, 11:40:35 PM »

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Chip..........quit stallin. You're avoiding the invitation to come and join us. We'd like to meet you, show ya around a little, talk motorcycles and you can tell us all the stories you want about those "mountains" back east. [smiley=huepfenlol2.gif] [smiley=1syellow1.gif] [smiley=6.gif] [smiley=7.gif] [smiley=6.gif] [smiley=huepfenlol2.gif]

You might be just a tiny bit careful there JC. Not a lot, but a tiny bit. I've covered a lot of the Rockies and the Sierras and the Canadian Rockies in the more southern provinces.

Their "up" is definitely way up compared to all the mountain wannabes we have everwhere downhill from the Rockies. But I don't remember anything in a short stretch up or down any of the western passes that was any worse than the some of the stretches the group played on a few weeks ago. Perhaps as bad/good. But certainly not any more demented than the roads the Maggie Valley Gathering played on.

I think the boys and girls in the east have decent rights to brag for at least a few good stretches there. You've definitely got more of them. But sometimes it ain't about quantity; it's just about the last 10 miles and if your diaper is still dry [smiley=7.gif]

hd2003-se2005 · « **Reply #15 on:** May 14, 2005, 11:40:58 PM »

JCZ

Just remember

NO SKINNY DIPPIN ALLOWED!

Twolanerider · « **Reply #16 on:** May 14, 2005, 11:43:34 PM »

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JC, let it die, man! I haven't seen one guy (or group of guys) get this much grief since the post deletion scandal a few weeks back, LOL! I put 1,100 miles on my bike down there and over half of it was in the rain. I have 50 of my closest friends as witnesses.

I picture your image of the Smoky Mtn. Gathering as a bunch of bikes trailered in and everyone hanging out in the motel parking lot drinking beer for a week. Oh, wait, we did do that, but we rode a lot too, bro'!! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Um, Brian.... JC is yanking your chain a bit. I think you bit down like an upset chiua.... (how do you spell chi wa wa?) .

Twolanerider · « **Reply #17 on:** May 14, 2005, 11:45:27 PM »

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NO SKINNY DIPPIN ALLOWED!

What !!??!!

110tHunDer · « **Reply #18 on:** May 14, 2005, 11:48:53 PM »

Chihuahua

110tHunDer · « **Reply #19 on:** May 14, 2005, 11:49:50 PM »

Wow, I did not realized the Chiha-- whatever was so well-built! [smiley=shocked2.gif]

JCZ · « **Reply #20 on:** May 14, 2005, 11:50:48 PM »

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You might be just a tiny bit careful there JC. Not a lot, but a tiny bit. I've covered a lot of the Rockies and the Sierras and the Canadian Rockies in the more southern provinces.

Their "up" is definitely way up compared to all the mountain wannabes we have everwhere downhill from the Rockies. But I don't remember anything in a short stretch up or down any of the western passes that was any worse than the some of the stretches the group played on a few weeks ago. Perhaps as bad/good. But certainly not any more demented than the roads the Maggie Valley Gathering played on.

I think the boys and girls in the east have decent rights to brag for at least a few good stretches there. You've definitely got more of them. But sometimes it ain't about quantity; it's just about the last 10 miles and if your diaper is still dry [smiley=7.gif]

O.K. I'm on the floor rollin over some of these posts in the last hour. But for just a moment I'm gonna try to be serious.......well, how about "just a little more serous than usual"?

I knew you were a rider Twolane. I read it in your posts, your experience speaks through your posts. I also know that the guys I'm havin fun with probably got near as many miles as me, if not more, under their belt.........it's all in good clean fun. And I'm not saying that we have roads that are "so much more" than the dragon".........but what I am saying as that we have some stretches that are just as twisty as the dragon and ours are also up and down, too. And, while we enjoy them, we just don't go getting all that excited when we ride them. That's all, nothing more, nothing less. O.K. I'm done being serious, can we go back to the funny chit now. [smiley=nixweiss.gif]

P/S We hope you make it out in Sept. too! [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]

Twolanerider · « **Reply #21 on:** May 14, 2005, 11:51:35 PM »

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Wow, I did not realized the Chiha-- whatever was so well-built! [smiley=shocked2.gif]

Yeah, and that stud is hung too [smiley=shocked2.gif]

JCZ · « **Reply #22 on:** May 14, 2005, 11:52:57 PM »

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JCZ

Just remember

NO SKINNY DIPPIN ALLOWED!

Oh man.......now hold on just a gal darn minute! You guys didn't tell us that you were doin that, too! O.K. Chip, I give.........we're not even gonna try to compete with that you guys can keep that kind of stuff back there in Deliverance country! [smiley=nervous.gif]

JCZ · « **Reply #23 on:** May 14, 2005, 11:54:12 PM »

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Wow, I did not realized the Chiha-- whatever was so well-built! [smiley=shocked2.gif]

And now Brian's checkin the dogs out! You guys are scarin me!! [smiley=nervous.gif]

Twolanerider · « **Reply #24 on:** May 14, 2005, 11:55:26 PM »

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O.K. I'm on the floor rollin over some of these posts in the last hour. But for just a moment I'm gonna try to be serious.......well, how about "just a little more serous than usual"?

I knew you were a rider Twolane. I read it in your posts, your experience speaks through your posts. I also know that the guys I'm havin fun with probably got near as many miles as me, if not more, under their belt.........it's all in good clean fun. And I'm not saying that we have roads that are "so much more" than the dragon".........but what I am saying as that we have some stretches that are just as twisty as the dragon and ours are also up and down, too. And, while we enjoy them, we just don't go getting all that excited when we ride them. That's all, nothing more, nothing less. O.K. I'm done being serious, can we go back to the funny chit now. [smiley=nixweiss.gif]

P/S We hope you make it out in Sept. too! [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]

That's for sure. Down in Arkansas' hills they call the Boston Mountain there are some stretches that are nearly as screwed up as some of the stuff we saw in NC. Can last for 8 or 9 miles and climb and lose several hundred feet. But that is a difference out west. I can remember some roads that would make a hummingbird seasick and that climb or lose 1000 feet more than once and you'd still be a half mile above where you started when you were finally done. Now that's some cool chit [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]

A real bummer (for us back here) is that such playgrounds are the exception rather than a far more common option too. So I can understand getting a bit excited about the trip to Magic Mountain when you don't get to go as often or as easily as one might when a climb up the Sierra Nevadas is not that far out your back door.

JCZ · « **Reply #25 on:** May 14, 2005, 11:55:59 PM »

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Yeah, and that stud is hung too [smiley=shocked2.gif]

Oh geez and Don's checkin em out, too! Be afraid..........be very afraid. [smiley=nervous.gif]

Twolanerider · « **Reply #26 on:** May 14, 2005, 11:59:31 PM »

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Oh geez and Don's checkin em out, too! Be afraid..........be very afraid. [smiley=nervous.gif]

bow wow wow wow wow wow

110tHunDer · « **Reply #27 on:** May 15, 2005, 01:04:06 AM »

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O.K. I'm on the floor rollin over some of these posts in the last hour.

I bet no one's been laughing harder than me! What a riot! [smiley=zroflmao.gif] [smiley=zroflmao.gif] [smiley=zroflmao.gif]

JCZ · « **Reply #28 on:** May 15, 2005, 01:09:26 AM »

It's been a good night gentlmen and now it's time for me to go lay my head down.

But since all three of you are here right now.......just a warning. I've got three months and I'm a persistant cuss. So in regards to the invitation to join us for the West Coast GTG and Ride........I'm not lettin up. You guys might as well go lay your head down on your pillows and start figurin out how the hell you're gonna pull it off. [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]

Good night gentlemen.

Twolanerider · « **Reply #29 on:** May 15, 2005, 01:15:30 AM »

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It's been a good night gentlmen and now it's time for me to go lay my head down.

But since all three of you are here right now.......just a warning. I've got three months and I'm a persistant cuss. So in regards to the invitation to join us for the West Coast GTG and Ride........I'm not lettin up. You guys might as well go lay your head down on your pillows and start figurin out how the hell you're gonna pull it off. [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]

Good night gentlemen.

Good night JC, you have a good one. If we're this cantankerous when this group just shows up online at the same time will it be safe to try the same thing in person ? [smiley=shocked2.gif] [smiley=shocked2.gif]

In all seriousness though I'd love to hit your Western Get-To-Gather just to meet the "other half" of the people. The roads would be a bonus; the people would be the reason to go. That schedule sucks for me right now though. Doesn't mean you can't keep working on us though [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

110tHunDer · « **Reply #30 on:** May 15, 2005, 01:22:13 AM »

JC, no doubt it would be a blast. Like 2lane said, $h!t, if we have this much fun sitting down at a keyboard, what would it be like in person? But 1857.26 miles for me according to Mapquest. I don't think it's happening, even with a [smiley=shocked2.gif] trailer. You do something in CO next year, though, and then we can talk again. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

hd2003-se2005 · « **Reply #31 on:** May 15, 2005, 07:31:53 AM »

It's 2594.05 miles for me to Reno.
Hell if I took a trailer, I would have to do a second mortgage to pay the gas.

[smiley=nixweiss.gif]

spydglide · « **Reply #32 on:** May 15, 2005, 08:39:41 AM »

Hey Chip. ... ... 2594.05miles ain't all that far. Hell, Kyle Petty does it every year. Let's ride ( emphasis on RIDE ) out there to TrailerLand and see ole JCZ and the boys. Just give me a couple of weeks notice and I'm rearing to go! [smiley=1syellow1.gif] Hell, we'll even see if the Hillbilly Heros want to tag along with the Carolina Kids. [smiley=huepfenjump3.gif] Har! spyder

WFP · « **Reply #33 on:** May 15, 2005, 10:10:40 AM »

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Wasn't going to tell them that we ride in the rain, too. Hell, those boys from back east pack it up in trucks and trailers when it looks like rain.........didn't want em melting when they read that we ride in it. [smiley=huepfenlol2.gif]

WAIT ONE MINUTE! I resent that remark...

Riding from York Home we (NAITRAM, Steve and myself) started hitting heavy rain towards the end of I81 and on to I84.

By Danbury, I would have stopped and stayed the night but I really had to get home. I Spent the next three hours riding at night in the rain. It really sucks when you can't see the white lines...for all I know I was crossing all three lanes the whole trip until I hit I495.

This was not one of my smarter moves with cars and 18-wheelers stil doin'75 and I am doin' 60 'cause I cant see through my glasses when the water got on the inside.

/Bill

110tHunDer · « **Reply #34 on:** May 15, 2005, 10:16:44 AM »

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Hey Chip. ... ... 2594.05miles ain't all that far. Hell, Kyle Petty does it every year.

Spyder, Kyle Petty only works on Sundays and even then doesn't show up most of the time (if you know what I mean [smiley=laugh.gif])!

spydglide · « **Reply #35 on:** May 15, 2005, 10:23:54 AM »

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Spyder, Kyle Petty only works on Sundays and even then doesn't show up most of the time (if you know what I mean [smiley=laugh.gif])!

Now that's just plain mean, Chip. He's just had a bad run of it. I think he's gonna make a better showing any week now. [smiley=beer.gif] Har! spyder

hd2003-se2005 · « **Reply #36 on:** May 15, 2005, 10:48:39 AM »

Damn

Now that's teamwork! [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]

Brian does the post, I get the blame.

What a team! [smiley=laugh.gif]

110tHunDer · « **Reply #37 on:** May 15, 2005, 10:50:57 AM »

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Damn

Now that's teamwork! [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]

Brian does the post, I get the blame.

What a team! [smiley=laugh.gif]

Wonder if I can figure out how I did that and do it again? [smiley=huepfenlol2.gif]

Twolanerider · « **Reply #38 on:** May 15, 2005, 01:43:51 PM »

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Wonder if I can figure out how I did that and do it again? [smiley=huepfenlol2.gif]

Brian, don't tell him it's one of those secret "moderator's buttons." I've never pushed the "Blame=Chip" button. Have seen it. Just never had the nerve.

JCZ · « **Reply #39 on:** May 15, 2005, 05:50:10 PM »

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WAIT ONE MINUTE! I resent that remark...

Riding from York Home we (NAITRAM, Steve and myself) started hitting heavy rain towards the end of I81 and on to I84.

By Danbury, I would have stopped and stayed the night but I really had to get home. I Spent the next three hours riding at night in the rain. It really sucks when you can't see the white lines...for all I know I was crossing all three lanes the whole trip until I hit I495.

This was not one of my smarter moves with cars and 18-wheelers stil doin'75 and I am doin' 60 'cause I cant see through my glasses when the water got on the inside.

/Bill

Well Bill......guess that'd put you in the "riders" class rather than the "trailerers". [smiley=laugh.gif] And so therefore, the aforementioed statement would not apply. Ride easy brother. [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]

WFP · « **Reply #40 on:** May 15, 2005, 06:22:59 PM »

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Well Bill......guess that'd put you in the "riders" class rather than the "trailerers". [smiley=laugh.gif] And so therefore, the aforementioed statement would not apply. Ride easy brother. [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]

An eastern one at that...but I still believe that it is more a hobby for me than a lifestyle...I think>..

JCZ · « **Reply #41 on:** May 15, 2005, 06:26:24 PM »

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An eastern one at that...but I still believe that it is more a hobby for me than a lifestyle...I think>..

Oh, I see......you're still in denial. That's O.K. brother......just keep coming back......more will be revealed. [smiley=laugh.gif]

Twolanerider · « **Reply #42 on:** May 15, 2005, 08:51:23 PM »

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An eastern one at that...but I still believe that it is more a hobby for me than a lifestyle...I think>..

Yeap, Bill is still doing the denial thing. The poor boy has a lot of steps yet in front of him [smiley=7.gif]

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