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CVO Technical => Milwaukee-Eight => Topic started by: Placey58 on June 18, 2019, 09:57:18 PM

Title: SVO Engine Specs
Post by: Placey58 on June 18, 2019, 09:57:18 PM

I bought my first CVO a little over a month ago. It is a 2019 CVO Limited. I am trying to sort thru all of the “Stage” stuff. My question is my stock 117 engine where does it fall in the stages? There seems to be different info coming from different dealerships service writers. I had one tell me that my heads are the CNC ported heads. Just trying to understand what I have.

Title: Re: SVO Engine Specs
Post by: bobbym on June 18, 2019, 10:01:49 PM

CNC ported heads come with a stag 4 upgrade! Stock 117 does not have ported heads! There are four stage upgrades that harley offers for performance needs!

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Title: Re: SVO Engine Specs
Post by: Placey58 on June 18, 2019, 10:06:52 PM

Quote from: bobbym on June 18, 2019, 10:01:49 PM

CNC ported heads come with a stag 4 upgrade! Stock 117 does not have ported heads! There are four stage upgrades that harley offers for performance needs!

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I understand the 4 stages but is my engine a stage 0?

Title: Re: SVO Engine Specs
Post by: bobbym on June 18, 2019, 10:09:03 PM

They come stock 117 ! Anything after that you have to do so I guess you could say 0! Lol

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Title: Re: SVO Engine Specs
Post by: Threephase on June 18, 2019, 11:28:53 PM

Technically I believe Harley says the CVO's come with a Stage1. Upgraded breather and mufflers, the tune is also a stage 1 tune for the mods.

Or so my dealer says.

Title: Re: SVO Engine Specs
Post by: mstrobes on June 18, 2019, 11:50:00 PM

Quote from: Threephase on June 18, 2019, 11:28:53 PM

Technically I believe Harley says the CVO's come with a Stage1. Upgraded breather and mufflers, the tune is also a stage 1 tune for the mods.

Or so my dealer says.

CVO comes with stage 1

Title: Re: SVO Engine Specs
Post by: grc on June 19, 2019, 08:26:09 AM

CVO's have always been considered to be Stage 1 from the factory, due to the higher flow air cleaners and exhausts when compared to standard models.  As for one of the common misconceptions about the engines in CVO's, they do not come stock with the Screamin' Eagle parts.  No ported heads for instance.  Harley makes too much extra profit with all those upgrade kits to even consider making any of that stuff standard. 

Jerry

Title: Re: SVO Engine Specs
Post by: Ironhorse on June 19, 2019, 09:00:40 AM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the last bike that came from the CVO factory with Screaming Eagle heads was the 103s from '04-'06. I don't think the 110s had SE heads.

Like I said I could be wrong.

Title: Re: SVO Engine Specs
Post by: grc on June 19, 2019, 11:48:56 AM

Quote from: Ironhorse on June 19, 2019, 09:00:40 AM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the last bike that came from the CVO factory with Screaming Eagle heads was the 103s from '04-'06. I don't think the 110s had SE heads.

Like I said I could be wrong.

The heads on the 103's were hemi heads versus the standard bathtub design, but they weren't officially SE heads.  Same for the 110's, hemi heads with bigger valves, but not SE as such.  The SE offerings in the catalog were different on both engines.

Jerry

Title: Re: SVO Engine Specs
Post by: Fired00d on June 19, 2019, 12:29:18 PM

Quote from: Ironhorse on June 19, 2019, 09:00:40 AM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the last bike that came from the CVO factory with Screaming Eagle heads was the 103s from '04-'06. I don't think the 110s had SE heads.

Like I said I could be wrong.

Quote from: grc on June 19, 2019, 11:48:56 AM

The heads on the 103's were hemi heads versus the standard bathtub design, but they weren't officially SE heads.  Same for the 110's, hemi heads with bigger valves, but not SE as such.  The SE offerings in the catalog were different on both engines.

Jerry

Our heads ('04/'05) were stamped "Screamin' Eagle" but as Jerry stated they weren't official SE heads.

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Title: Re: SVO Engine Specs
Post by: Ironhorse on June 19, 2019, 02:33:27 PM

Can someone post a picture of the two so I can see the difference.

Thanks

Title: Re: SVO Engine Specs
Post by: goop on June 19, 2019, 02:49:34 PM

do yourself and your pocket book a favor and hold out till your warranty is up or if your like me i said screw the warranty and put an exhaust and cam in my 19 cvo RG. what a hug difference and a heck of a lot cheaper than harleys garbage upgrades

Title: Re: SVO Engine Specs
Post by: Fired00d on June 19, 2019, 05:51:05 PM

Quote from: Ironhorse on June 19, 2019, 02:33:27 PM

Can someone post a picture of the two so I can see the difference.

Thanks

You asking for picture of the 04/05 heads? If so…

(https://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=8030.0;attach=314121;image)

Mine have been enhanced by an orange sharpie. ;D

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Title: Re: SVO Engine Specs
Post by: Ironhorse on June 19, 2019, 10:30:04 PM

I’m sorry, I meant the difference in a bathtub or hemispherical chamber. The inside, the guts. And what does the difference do?

Title: Re: SVO Engine Specs
Post by: MCE on June 22, 2019, 01:32:59 PM

If you're pulling the heads, I would consider a better valve job. Harley valve jobs are not
the greatest, you'd gain allot of performance just from doing that. fwiw...

Title: Re: SVO Engine Specs
Post by: MCE on June 22, 2019, 01:45:54 PM

One other thought;

Harley's SE heads typically have a 91-92% throat on the intake side. That's too big for a motor
where TQ is the primary objective. A larger valve needs to be fitted to fix that. 2 cents...

(The springs are way too heavy (seat pressure), as well)