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Baker 5 quart oil pan
« on: March 04, 2008, 07:43:34 PM »

Baker (trans people) have a new oil pan coming out, hold 5 quarts and separates the intake and discharge of the oil tubes. I've never seen them but apparently the sump and return are right next to each other on the twin cam, so the oil doesn't get a good circulation.

The new pan splits the sump and return from front to back, they claim a cooler running engine and a couple of HP.

The pan apparently comes with some type of swing arm stabilizer as a built in feature.

Who will be first in line ?


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Re: Baker 5 quart oil pan
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2008, 08:04:10 PM »

And in case you noticed the two piece pan in the pictures, apparently that is the prototype and mainline items will be 1 piece.
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Re: Baker 5 quart oil pan
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2008, 08:10:24 PM »

I've been eyeing this for a couple of months now. I called Baker a while back and they were not in full production yet. Asked if the chrome version had the same heat reduction but they didn't know the answer then. Since it's been out for a couple of weeks now I would surprised if no one here has one on yet!
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Re: Baker 5 quart oil pan
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2008, 08:13:19 PM »

Can't find a price anywhere.  As interesting as the concept is if I'm not seeing overheated oil to begin with it'll be hard to justify anything but a fair price for an oil pan.  Newer, neater, fancier, better smelling; all may be good.  But they don't always equate to necessary.... :nixweiss:
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Re: Baker 5 quart oil pan
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2008, 08:18:09 PM »

Can't find a price anywhere.  As interesting as the concept is if I'm not seeing overheated oil to begin with it'll be hard to justify anything but a fair price for an oil pan.  Newer, neater, fancier, better smelling; all may be good.  But they don't always equate to necessary.... :nixweiss:

necessary....necessary....what's that?  Can't find that word anywhere in the playbook....   :nixweiss:
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Re: Baker 5 quart oil pan
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2008, 08:22:12 PM »

Can't find a price anywhere.  As interesting as the concept is if I'm not seeing overheated oil to begin with it'll be hard to justify anything but a fair price for an oil pan.  Newer, neater, fancier, better smelling; all may be good.  But they don't always equate to necessary.... :nixweiss:

SHHHH. I just used the better smelling part to justify getting a new seat, can't let the little woman see this thread!
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Re: Baker 5 quart oil pan
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2008, 08:27:29 PM »

Can't find a price anywhere.  As interesting as the concept is if I'm not seeing overheated oil to begin with it'll be hard to justify anything but a fair price for an oil pan.  Newer, neater, fancier, better smelling; all may be good.  But they don't always equate to necessary.... :nixweiss:

Can you explain the red powder coat then  :nixweiss:
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Re: Baker 5 quart oil pan
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2008, 08:28:55 PM »

Can't find a price anywhere. 


I found an article on the pan a couple of days ago with a lot more info, can't find it now. Seem to recall the price somewhere between 4 & 5 benny's
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Re: Baker 5 quart oil pan
« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2008, 10:00:06 PM »

Can you explain the red powder coat then  :nixweiss:


That was lust.  It's hard to lust after an oil pan....
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« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2008, 12:10:55 AM »


That was lust.  It's hard to lust after an oil pan....


Until you think about it  bit - think of it as    underwear - red panties for your ride
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Re: Baker 5 quart oil pan
« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2008, 01:36:37 AM »

Until you think about it  bit - think of it as    underwear - red panties for your ride

The problem there is I've already got an oil pan to lust after.  Have one already powder coated red to match the motor.  Just haven't put it on yet....  :nixweiss:
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Re: Baker 5 quart oil pan
« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2008, 09:32:56 AM »

The problem there is I've already got an oil pan to lust after.  Have one already powder coated red to match the motor.  Just haven't put it on yet....  :nixweiss:


Yeah I know, had you already not PC'd it this would have been just the ticket.

Still waiting to see how the stabilizer works.

But, 1 extra quart is 20% more oil - I'd like to have more oil  :2vrolijk_21:

The one thing I don't like about my Duramax is that it only holds 10 quarts of oil (Ford - 14 qts).
My dealer though recently helped me lesson my concern, started charging me for 12 quarts  :nixweiss:
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Re: Baker 5 quart oil pan
« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2008, 11:08:51 AM »

Yeah I know, had you already not PC'd it this would have been just the ticket.

Still waiting to see how the stabilizer works.

But, 1 extra quart is 20% more oil - I'd like to have more oil  :2vrolijk_21:

The one thing I don't like about my Duramax is that it only holds 10 quarts of oil (Ford - 14 qts).
My dealer though recently helped me lesson my concern, started charging me for 12 quarts  :nixweiss:

Duane, this oil pan doesn't have a stabilizer built into it. What it has is a nub on the bottom of the pan where you can bolt the Alloy Art stabilizer instead of using a 'cage' as is required on the stock oil pan. If anyone has the True Trak or the Ride Str8, or any other stabilizer, except the Alloy Art unit, they will not be able to use those units with these pans. This pan prevents access to the oil pan bolts as they are no longer exposed as before. I wonder if Alloy Art contributed to the design as you will be locked into their unit if you use this pan and want to run a stabilizer bracket.

I have a lot of respect for Bert's products, but in this case I think they have come up with a solution and are now looking to create the problem it solves.

I believe their description of how the stock pan circulates is intentionally over-simplified to make it seem like there is a problem with the design. While it is true both inlet and outlet are at the front of the tank, the internal baffles route the oil to the rear of the tank before it can make its way to the front and return to the engine.

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Re: Baker 5 quart oil pan
« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2008, 11:37:19 AM »

Here's shot of the inards of the stock oil pan on the '07s and '08s. The pre-07 models are very similar. The oil enters the pan at (Q43) into the area (R44) and exits at (S45). The baffle prevents the hot oil from simply exiting the pan and returning to the engine as is implied in the Baker P1P description.

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Re: Baker 5 quart oil pan
« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2008, 11:38:14 AM »

Here's the text from the SM explaining the oil flow.

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