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CVO Technical => Drive Train => Topic started by: hogasm on January 01, 2008, 10:16:11 AM
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Have been searching E-bay lately and have been checking out the different 6 speeds out there.
I see a Revtec that goes for about 700 and a Accessories Unlimited for around the same price.
Any experience with any of these or any other gear sets for our bikes that will hold up?
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Have been searching E-bay lately and have been checking out the different 6 speeds out there.
I see a Revtec that goes for about 700 and a Accessories Unlimited for around the same price.
Any experience with any of these or any other gear sets for our bikes that will hold up?
Accessories Unlimited is very smooth and quiet. shifts like a honda. dont know how well it will hold up to mileage/abuse.
another inexpensive 6 speed that really impresses me and has GREAT customer service is TRICK SHIFT. polished for less than a grand!
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I heard that the early revtech sets had gear quality issues.
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There has been three different bikes around here that has put the REV TECH transmissions in and so far no issues, I hope that they hold up I have one scheduled to be put in my road king.
h-d mikey
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There has been three different bikes around here that has put the REV TECH transmissions in and so far no issues, I hope that they hold up I have one scheduled to be put in my road king.
h-d mikey
Me too mikey! I'm putting a RevTech 110 Evo and 6-speed in my '85 FXWG this winter. Look at it this way, it can't be any worse than HD's 110! ;)
Hoist! 8)
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I had the accessories unlimited in my chopper a few years back with no issues it was real smooth . But also have been told that acc unlimited builds the trany for revtec both made in our newest state Japan..... :2vrolijk_21:
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I had the accessories unlimited in my chopper a few years back with no issues it was real smooth . But also have been told that acc unlimited builds the trany for revtec both made in our newest state Japan..... :2vrolijk_21:
I always thaught the Revtec was built in Korea. If they are built in Japan....definitely a good product.
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Guys,
Know of quite a few people whi purchased Rev Tech Engines & Trannies, some were not happy at all. However, most were the older series.
Search on Harley Tech Talk and V Twin Forum for more feed back.
I have always used the SE HD Six Speed and currently the Baker OD6 with no problems, the SE HD Six Speed with a Jims 120 putting out over 131 Hp amd 134TQ using a Rivera pro clutch.
Just my .02 cents,
geezerglide
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Guys,
Know of quite a few people whi purchased Rev Tech Engines & Trannies, some were not happy at all. However, most were the older series.
Search on Harley Tech Talk and V Twin Forum for more feed back.
I have always used the SE HD Six Speed and currently the Baker OD6 with no problems, the SE HD Six Speed with a Jims 120 putting out over 131 Hp amd 134TQ using a Rivera pro clutch.
Just my .02 cents,
geezerglide
5 grand for the RevTech Package vs. 10-12 grand for the Jims/SE package. It's worth taking a shot with the RevTech on my 23 YO bike. ;)
Hoist! 8)
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Hoist,
I have seen Jims 120 Engines selling in the $6,000 - $7,500 range on ebay etc.
Right now on eBay St. Paul HD in Minn. has a "Buy It Now" of $6,400 for a Silver and Chrome Evo Mount Jims 120. Which does not include the intake etc.
geezerglide
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I always thaught the Revtec was built in Korea. If they are built in Japan....definitely a good product.
still in korea as far as i know. i think they have worked hard to overcome the stigma atached from the GEN 1 days when all the parts blew out the bottom of the motor. good reports these days. every now and then, custom chrome will blow em out with prices in the $4000 range to dealers.
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Hoist,
I have seen Jims 120 Engines selling in the $6,000 - $7,500 range on ebay etc.
Right now on eBay St. Paul HD in Minn. has a "Buy It Now" of $6,400 for a Silver and Chrome Evo Mount Jims 120. Which does not include the intake etc.
geezerglide
As Red said, CCI has blowouts. $5400 for a 110" Evo, 6-speed trans, inner & outer primaries, heavy duty starter, heavy duty clutch assembly, ignition, charging sys, 45mm Mikuni w/manifold & A/C assembly. A complete drivetrain. Brand new w/MSO's. Can't beat that price with a stick! ;)
Hoist! 8)
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For the Buck differences I am going to try this newer REV TEC Transmission, It sure as hell can't be as bad as HD's noisy 6 speed. Plus i have talked with a few folks that has tried them and they are pleased. I may be sorry for trying, but I was crazy enough to buy a 110" screaming eagle I might as well do the REV TECH thing. I might like it.
h-d mikey
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Brian,
With all of the time, and associated $$'s, you've invested in the project, why not Baker DD6? Is it the $$$, or is there something bad about them I don't know about.
:indian_chief:
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Brian,
With all of the time, and associated $$'s, you've invested in the project, why not Baker DD6? Is it the $$$, or is there something bad about them I don't know about.
:indian_chief:
Have read some good things lately about the revtec 6 speed. I figured for the little amount of capital outlay it might not be a bad investment. I don't believe that a SE or Baker or Jims 6 speed is worth the outlay. Have said that since I put the Baker in my 04SEEG.
If I could pick a Revtec up on Ebay for around $500, that is if no one bids against me, it might be worth trying. Of course a change in the primary would be inorder :2vrolijk_21:
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Brian,
With all of the time, and associated $$'s, you've invested in the project, why not Baker DD6? Is it the $$$, or is there something bad about them I don't know about.
:indian_chief:
Good point.
Hoist and I talked a little about the Rev-Tech stuff this past wekend. I unfortunately came in in the beginning of the Rev-Tech era, so I expierenced first hand a bad motor and two bad transmissions. >:( On that note you don't hear much about those issues anymore. ::) With the second trans failure it took so long to get it warrantied a Baker went back in its place. :) The Rev-Tech STILL sits on the shelf. :-\ I as those who have posted above have heard good things about the Trick Shift stuff. :2vrolijk_21: Merch Performance endorses them so they have to be able to handle some power. :nixweiss:
I have a Jim's in my Chopper and had a Andrews geared unit in the prior chopper. I have the Baker DD6 in the Bagger and it is by far the best shifting of the three. :orange:
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One thing to look at it the gear ratios of these transmissions, some have a pretty tall 6th gear and unless your running a really big motor. You can't get into 6th gear unless your running over 60 mph, may be what you want. My buddy didn't like his gearing on the Baker, nice trans, gut not geared for what he wanted.
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Have read some good things lately about the revtec 6 speed. I figured for the little amount of capital outlay it might not be a bad investment. I don't believe that a SE or Baker or Jims 6 speed is worth the outlay. Have said that since I put the Baker in my 04SEEG.
Why is that? Did you have issues with the Baker? Or did it just not give the warm fuzzy feeling a $1700 gear set should? ;D
If I could pick a Revtec up on Ebay for around $500, that is if no one bids against me, it might be worth trying. Of course a change in the primary would be inorder :2vrolijk_21:
That is pretty inexpensive. I was just looking up a Jims gear set and it is $1700+/-. :'(
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One thing to look at it the gear ratios of these transmissions, some have a pretty tall 6th gear and unless your running a really big motor. You can't get into 6th gear unless your running over 60 mph, may be what you want. My buddy didn't like his gearing on the Baker, nice trans, gut not geared for what he wanted.
Valid point there. Since my Bagger was geared like an 1/8th mile drag car the extra top end was welcomed. I look for 7th out on the highway running 80 MPH. My Chopper doesn't need 6th gear at all.
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I've taken a personal interest in this topic as I have come to dislike the HD Cruise Drive more and more as time goes by. The ratios suck. First gear is way too tall and fifth is too short. Sixth gear is perfect for highway riding and is the only good thing about the tranny.
Here are some comparisons.
| Gear - | Harley 5 - | Cruise Drive - | Baker DD6 |
| 1st | 10.21 | 9.32 | 10.52 |
| 2nd | 6.96 | 6.45 | 7.14 |
| 3rd | 5.04 | 4.80 | 5.22 |
| 4th | 3.87 | 3.88 | 4.02 |
| 5th | 3.15 | 3.29 | 3.21 |
| 6th | N/A | 2.79 | 2.79 |
Dropping the first gear ratio down will do wonders for hole shot, especially when pulling a trailer. Not that racing is in order, but a better performing first is needed on this heavy bike.
In short, the Baker DD6 has the ratios I'm looking for, but it just won't work with the 07 bikes. Baker claims that they will have an offering to fit the 2007+ models, but it is a long way off. I was told at least 1 months out.
Does anyone else make a 6-Spd to fit the Cruise Drive case?
I've attached a simple spreadsheet I made up to calculate speeds in the different gears at a set RPM.
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Why is that? Did you have issues with the Baker? Or did it just not give the warm fuzzy feeling a $1700 gear set should? ;D
That is pretty inexpensive. I was just looking up a Jims gear set and it is $1700+/-. :'(
Mike I have the Baker DD6 in the 04 SEEG with a 124. I had a meeting with them in Sturgis in 04 about a gear set that would work well trailering. I used the bike traveling, pulling a trailer. We had all the gears specially cut for the 103 motor. It works well for what it is designed for, even with the 124 motor.
What I am looking for with the Revtec trans is a gear set that the ratios are close to the stock trans, with a change in primary gearing. This bike probably won't be used much on long trips, over 1000 miles. There is nothing wrong with the stock gears, 5sp, but thought for the money that I would try something different..
Still doing my homework.
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Different is good. ;D
Now if I could convince my wife of that. ;)