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CVO Technical => Wheels/Tires/Suspension/Brakes => Topic started by: MJZ on January 17, 2008, 11:10:44 AM
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This is a very interesting article, it seems to make some really good points.
I throwing this out here to see if anyone has vast knowledge of this:
http://lifeisaroad.com/stories/2004/10/27/theDarkSide.html
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interesting read
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I had a bias whitewall on my old panny chop....The point, cheaper, tougher. Back then they were the only way to get "the look". What the replacement cost on the these newfangled sticky soft radials?
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That article was the best I've ever seen for mostly dispassionate and empirical discussion of the whole "car tire on a bike" thing. Have seen/watched/snickered-at guys go off the deep end of both sides of this discussion. That review did a nice job. Thanks for putting it up MJ.
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Nicely written article, and the guy does make his point...good to see a very convincing argument in favor of this.
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Very interesting, I'm not to sure about the handling in a turn, smaller, sharper radius, harder compound. Someone try it and let us know!!!
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My old panny chop was rigid, no front brake, drum rear and hand shifted.
Cornering? The girdered front with stoopit rake made cornering an adventure, eff the rear tire!
:)
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The article does make you think about it...
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The article does make you think about it...
What I was impressed with most was that he really had thought about Ernie. A great deal.
Have sat back and watched people go back and forth about this before. More often with neither having actually done it. Was just interesting to see a reasoned approach coupled with a moderately well travelled opinion on the topic.
Fortunately I don't think there's anything that would fit our bikes. So I don't have to give it any more thought than admiring someone else's thought too :huepfenlol2: .
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What I was impressed with most was that he really had thought about Ernie. A great deal.
Have sat back and watched people go back and forth about this before. More often with neither having actually done it. Was just interesting to see a reasoned approach coupled with a moderately well travelled opinion on the topic.
Fortunately I don't think there's anything that would fit our bikes. So I don't have to give it any more thought than admiring someone else's thought too :huepfenlol2: .
With our 3.50" wide wheel I think you are correct. Guess you could do the whole swing arm changeover for the wide tire kit but you can buy an awful lot of motorcycle tires for what that mod would cost. :2vrolijk_21:
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I was thinking how good your jester would look with a Goodyear Polyglass (raised white letters) and mud tread. ;D ;D ;D ;D
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I was thinking how good your jester would look with a Goodyear Polyglass (raised white letters) and mud tread. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Yea...we could have a hill climbing event at the next GTG... :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2:
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I was thinking how good your jester would look with a Goodyear Polyglass (raised white letters) and mud tread. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Not as good as your 'nana with one of those wide red stripe tires that were popular in the 60s. ;D ;D
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Very interesting article, thanks
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... Someone try it and let us know!!!
Yeah - what he said. :nixweiss: That is kinda like saying "That looks good, on You!"
:D :D :D
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Very interesting, I'm not to sure about the handling in a turn, smaller, sharper radius, harder compound. Someone try it and let us know!!!
Already did.......slid into a 'median' in a corner and flipped the scooter and dumped me and my BSR due to all that you mentioned above (the big-boy beverages :drink:I'd just consumed had nothing to do with it ). ??? Still blame the car tire. :-X har! spyder
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Lots of folks do this on GL1800 Goldwings. I don't know any who have had any problems so far doing it.
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Maybe it's me but after talking to a few people in the tire business I have decided that this is not the safest way to go. Some people could give a rats ass about safety and ride all kinds of stuff that I would not even try like no front brakes, just because they have survived so far even with thousands of miles does not make it a good idea. The sidewalls are completely different on a car tire and a motorcycle tire. I am not talking about riding on the sidewall, I am talkin about pressure on the sidewall while cornering. A car tire is not meant to roll leaned over and is not designed to do so. You ever seen a car tire fold in during a high speed slolem cornering manuveur? I have. Just think, those tires are on rims that are standing up 90 degrees to the pavement, so this is at least double as likely when on a 45 degree angle. Simple physics. The myth about tire manufacturers just trying to gain extra profit off motorcyclists is obserd, the cost is not just the materials but also in the R&D to create the thing...........I would not do it........just my two cents. Might be ok for an old guy who basically never hits corners on a highway on a goldwing or other 6 cylinder beast. You guys try it and let me know how it goes.