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Re: HID headlamp questions
« Reply #15 on: March 07, 2010, 09:33:30 AM »

Still not a visual match.

But better than stock?
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Re: HID headlamp questions
« Reply #16 on: March 07, 2010, 09:35:22 AM »

But better than stock?

Not matching is not matching.  You can get closer.  I've yet to see anything that was really "close enough" to be qualified as a good visual match.  But opinions may vary....
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Re: HID headlamp questions
« Reply #17 on: March 07, 2010, 09:40:58 AM »

Not matching is not matching.  You can get closer.  I've yet to see anything that was really "close enough" to be qualified as a good visual match.  But opinions may vary....

I hear ya thanks though.  Do ya know id anyone is working on a shorter more compact bulb for this?
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Re: HID headlamp questions
« Reply #18 on: March 07, 2010, 09:45:45 AM »

I hear ya thanks though.  Do ya know id anyone is working on a shorter more compact bulb for this?

Haven't seen one.  Mostly stopped paying close attention a year or so ago.  But haven't heard of anyone else stumbling in to one either.
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Re: HID headlamp questions
« Reply #19 on: March 07, 2010, 09:49:25 AM »

Haven't seen one.  Mostly stopped paying close attention a year or so ago.  But haven't heard of anyone else stumbling in to one either.

Thanks for the info :(

But you are running the HID's in the head lamp? Hi & Low?
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Re: HID headlamp questions
« Reply #20 on: March 07, 2010, 09:55:26 AM »

Thanks for the info :(

But you are running the HID's in the head lamp? Hi & Low?

Yes, high and low.  They've been in there a long time now too.  That dual bulb reflector was so poor with even good halogen bulbs that I outran headlight effectiveness at night and was always using the lights of traffic in front of me for visual assist.  HIDs made the bike safe at night.
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Re: HID headlamp questions
« Reply #21 on: March 07, 2010, 09:59:00 AM »

Yes, high and low.  They've been in there a long time now too.  That dual bulb reflector was so poor with even good halogen bulbs that I outran headlight effectiveness at night and was always using the lights of traffic in front of me for visual assist.  HIDs made the bike safe at night.

Do you remember what color # they are and did you get them from HD DUDE?
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Re: HID headlamp questions
« Reply #22 on: March 07, 2010, 10:04:44 AM »

Do you remember what color # they are and did you get them from HD DUDE?

Actually I guinea pigged the HID kits before anyone else had.  Right after I did HD Dude picked up his dealer status with the company whose parts I used.

Since no one had done it yet no one was thinking about the "other" lights.  Ancillary color matching hadn't been thought of yet.  So I looked at all the pretty pictures and thought "oh, I like the look of the 8k best."  They work great.  The digital igniters that were part of those original kits are small and continue to work well.  But 8k blue-ish lights compared to what now look like puke yellow halogen spots is a butt ugly combination :huepfenlol2: .
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Re: HID headlamp questions
« Reply #23 on: March 07, 2010, 10:14:49 AM »

My 09 comes stock with 2 separate bulbs for high and low.  Those that have this setup, are you changing both high and low to HID and I assume that would mean 2 ballasts???  I have been assuming all along that I would just leave the high beam as it is and only replace the low beam.

2lane...looks like the countdown to MV10 stopped working a while ago.
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Re: HID headlamp questions
« Reply #24 on: March 07, 2010, 10:19:20 AM »

My 09 comes stock with 2 separate bulbs for high and low.  Those that have this setup, are you changing both high and low to HID and I assume that would mean 2 ballasts???

2lane...looks like the countdown to MV10 stopped working a while ago.

Yes, each bulb gets a ballast.  That's why first stumbling in to the early release of these digital kits several years ago made this possible for so many of us.  Before that the separate larger ballasts and igniters were too big to mess with effectively.  The little digital ballasts make it such that getting them inside the fairing is simple though.  I've put them in a couple of Road Kings.  If they can go inside a Road King nacelle they can go inside your fairing.

Thanks on the countdown thing.  I keep the signatures turned off so never see them.  Forget what's in my own unless someone mentions it.
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Re: HID headlamp questions
« Reply #25 on: March 07, 2010, 12:04:27 PM »

as for matching the spots, i dont use them very often since upgrading to HID, and i look at the fact that the spots dont match as a way to increase visibility instead of one big blob of color, people will see multiple points of light
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Re: HID headlamp questions
« Reply #26 on: March 07, 2010, 02:24:54 PM »

as for matching the spots, i dont use them very often since upgrading to HID, and i look at the fact that the spots dont match as a way to increase visibility instead of one big blob of color, people will see multiple points of light

Mine aren't often now either.  Though I'd not (yet) thought of rationalizing the ugly as greater visual separation....  :drink: :huepfenlol2:
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Re: HID headlamp questions
« Reply #27 on: March 07, 2010, 07:51:00 PM »

I hear ya thanks though.  Do ya know id anyone is working on a shorter more compact bulb for this?

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Re: HID headlamp questions
« Reply #28 on: April 10, 2010, 04:49:42 AM »

Another HID question.  When installing HID lamps, is there any wiring that needs done beyond inside the fairing.  In looking at HID websites, I have seen other cables being installed that require disconnecting the battery and then connecting the HID system to the battery somehow with some sort of relays.  Is this something that needs to be done?  Is there a certain relay that needs to be purchased beyond the conversion kits, which don't seem to come with anything like that?

This looks pretty easy if all there is to it is replacing the bulb, adding the ballast, and connecting the wires together.  Is there more to it, as mentioned above, or is this just a simple procedure?

I think this is what I was referring to:
Without it, when the HID conversion (this or any other) is installed, the motorcycle's or car's electrical system "reads" that the headlamp is only drawing, say, 35W instead of 55W or 65W, and reports it to the controlling computer as a defective or "blown bulb" and you will get a system error, a warning light, or in some cases the bike may not start as a safety precaution.  The relay corrects for this, much the same way that conversion kits for LED taillights work.

They are talking about a CAN-BUS system.  Do Harleys have this, or is this just something found on BMW's and such?
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Re: HID headlamp questions
« Reply #29 on: April 10, 2010, 05:37:28 AM »

Set I installed I ran the main power back to the battery to reduce voltage drop. The headlight wiring is used to swicth on the relay.


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