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Title: Oil pump failure due to synthetic oil
Post by: Hawg on September 26, 2011, 09:43:15 PM
Has anyone heard of or had a problem with synthetic oil causing an oil pump failure?  :nixweiss:
Title: Re: Oil pump failure due to synthetic oil
Post by: willymax4 on September 26, 2011, 10:16:06 PM
no, why do you ask?
Title: Re: Oil pump failure due to synthetic oil
Post by: JCZ on September 26, 2011, 10:25:05 PM
No, never heard of it.

But I think I remember reading once, that a dealership tried to claim that once, before the MoCo started putting synthetic oil in the bikes. 

How would synthetic cause an oil pump to fail? 
Title: Re: Oil pump failure due to synthetic oil
Post by: GregKhougaz on September 26, 2011, 10:45:38 PM
Urban dealer myth.?    :huepfenlol2:   :huepfenlol2:   Never heard anyone claim this and cannot imagine how anyone could make this claim. 
Title: Re: Oil pump failure due to synthetic oil
Post by: 2018_FLTRXSE on September 26, 2011, 11:11:56 PM
If you search oil pump failures on this site.. most are attributed to excessive crank runout... nothing to do with the oil?
Title: Re: Oil pump failure due to synthetic oil
Post by: sadunbar on September 26, 2011, 11:15:03 PM
Quote from: Hawg on September 26, 2011, 09:43:15 PM
Has anyone heard of or had a problem with synthetic oil causing an oil pump failure?  :nixweiss:


 :zroflmao:  :zroflmao:  :zroflmao:  :zroflmao:  :zroflmao:



(no)
Title: Re: Oil pump failure due to synthetic oil
Post by: Buy early on September 26, 2011, 11:50:27 PM
Sounds like science fiction to me.
Title: Re: Oil pump failure due to synthetic oil
Post by: dayne66 on September 27, 2011, 01:41:19 AM
My local dealer "has stories" about synthetic....especially Amsoil. A bunch of hooey....if it comes out of the mouths of anyone at my local dealer!
Title: Re: Oil pump failure due to synthetic oil
Post by: gmills on September 27, 2011, 03:38:44 AM
synthetic only did that before the MOCO started selling synthetic. now all is ok because they use
SIN 3  or support Chevaz 3
Title: Re: Oil pump failure due to synthetic oil
Post by: MUFFMAN on September 27, 2011, 04:58:22 AM
Quote from: dayne66 on September 27, 2011, 01:41:19 AM
My local dealer "has stories" about synthetic....especially Amsoil. A bunch of hooey....if it comes out of the mouths of anyone at my local dealer!

I've been running Amsoil for years. I wiouldn't have Syn3 in my bike if the dealer did the oil chance no charge.
Title: Re: Oil pump failure due to synthetic oil
Post by: muddypaws on September 27, 2011, 09:35:10 AM
Another BS dealer if they are telling you that..
Title: Re: Oil pump failure due to synthetic oil
Post by: grc on September 27, 2011, 01:47:11 PM
Quote from: Hawg on September 26, 2011, 09:43:15 PM
Has anyone heard of or had a problem with synthetic oil causing an oil pump failure?  :nixweiss:

Absolutely!  It also causes impotence, baldness, and bad breath.

(you need to stop listening to complete idiots)


Jerry
Title: Re: Oil pump failure due to synthetic oil
Post by: Hawg on September 27, 2011, 10:21:23 PM
A friend of a friend claims he had to replace his oil pump due to the synthetic oil bla bla bla... of coarse I said I would ask the people that would know for sure if there was anything to this fairytale, thanks for your response everyone..  :2vrolijk_21:
Title: Re: Oil pump failure due to synthetic oil
Post by: MKW on September 27, 2011, 10:29:20 PM
AimsOil in my 2003 and Syn3 in 2010 CVO-no problems
Title: Re: Oil pump failure due to synthetic oil
Post by: Ironhorse on September 27, 2011, 10:56:32 PM
Quote from: Buy early on September 26, 2011, 11:50:27 PM
Sounds like science fiction to me.

Don't you mean Science "Friction"....... I couldn't resist the pun.
Title: Re: Oil pump failure due to synthetic oil
Post by: VANAMAL on September 28, 2011, 12:32:18 AM
Quote from: Ironhorse on September 27, 2011, 10:56:32 PM
Don't you mean Science "Friction"....... I couldn't resist the pun.





use a pun go to jail
Title: Re: Oil pump failure due to synthetic oil
Post by: Montanakid on January 01, 2012, 02:35:44 AM
Yup and better check yur muffler bearings too!!!   :2vrolijk_21:
Title: Re: Oil pump failure due to synthetic oil
Post by: dlaws01 on January 01, 2012, 03:36:52 AM
Tell me how an oil pump can differentiate between a synthetic oil or dino oil if weight and viscosity are the same. I don't believe a pump really gives it a thought.
Title: Re: Oil pump failure due to synthetic oil
Post by: Twolanerider on January 01, 2012, 10:31:59 AM
Quote from: dlaws01 on January 01, 2012, 03:36:52 AM
Tell me how an oil pump can differentiate between a synthetic oil or dino oil if weight and viscosity are the same. I don't believe a pump really gives it a thought.

I have very smart oil pumps.  Spend months training them before installation.  Mine even know if they're riding in the dark.  The SERG's oil pump is something of a night owl and actually prefers to ride in the dark.  Via mental bluetooth connection it tells me it promises it will never cause cavitation if I give it a ride in the dark at least twice a month.
Title: Re: Oil pump failure due to synthetic oil
Post by: martys on January 01, 2012, 10:38:05 AM
Quote from: Twolanerider on January 01, 2012, 10:31:59 AM
I have very smart oil pumps.  Spend months training them before installation.  Mine even know if they're riding in the dark.  The SERG's oil pump is something of a night owl and actually prefers to ride in the dark.  Via mental bluetooth connection it tells me it promises it will never cause cavitation if I give it a ride in the dark at least twice a month.
I think your making this up Don ;)... to think the SERG doesn't like the day light ...Gheeeesh :nixweiss:
Title: Re: Oil pump failure due to synthetic oil
Post by: Twolanerider on January 01, 2012, 10:42:59 AM
Quote from: martys on January 01, 2012, 10:38:05 AM
I think your making this up Don ;)... to think the SERG doesn't like the day light ...Gheeeesh :nixweiss:

Don't know what to say Marty.  Little bitch also likes those teenager vampire movies.  She is 12 now so she's close to a teen.  But it's still weird walking out in the shop and seeing the little tv in front of the headlight and smelling popcorn in the tour pak.  Bike is "team" someone but I don't know who.  SEEG is a grumpy old fart about the whole thing and just wants the TV off so it can sleep.
Title: Re: Oil pump failure due to synthetic oil
Post by: martys on January 01, 2012, 10:47:13 AM
Quote from: Twolanerider on January 01, 2012, 10:42:59 AM
Don't know what to say Marty.  Little bitch also likes those teenager vampire movies.  She is 12 now so she's close to a teen.  But it's still weird walking out in the shop and seeing the little tv in front of the headlight and smelling popcorn in the tour pak.  Bike is "team" someone but I don't know who.  SEEG is a grumpy old fart about the whole thing and just wants the TV off so it can sleep.
I think they are both acting out because of sibling envy :nervous: That 02 King has been getting a lot of attention lately(looking fantastic by the way) and the rest of the "Red Family" may be a bit jealous
Title: Re: Oil pump failure due to synthetic oil
Post by: Fired00d on January 01, 2012, 10:59:59 AM
Quote from: Twolanerider on January 01, 2012, 10:31:59 AM
I have very smart oil pumps.  Spend months training them before installation.  Mine even know if they're riding in the dark.  The SERG's oil pump is something of a night owl and actually prefers to ride in the dark.  Via mental bluetooth connection it tells me it promises it will never cause cavitation if I give it a ride in the dark at least twice a month.
Why does the below commercial come to mind after reading the above post...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VU6hmgTY76M

:D :D :D

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:
Title: Re: Oil pump failure due to synthetic oil
Post by: Twolanerider on January 01, 2012, 11:03:39 AM
I don't like hamsters.  Try to ride the little buggers and my fingers are too big to hook up the little saddles and my ass is big enough they get squished about the same time I say "giddy up."  And don't even get me started on saddlebag space and the lack of a tour pak....
Title: Re: Oil pump failure due to synthetic oil
Post by: Fired00d on January 01, 2012, 11:06:59 AM
Those are "Guinea Pigs Hogs". :D :D :D

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:
Title: Re: Oil pump failure due to synthetic oil
Post by: Twolanerider on January 01, 2012, 11:08:58 AM
Quote from: Fired00d on January 01, 2012, 11:06:59 AM
Those are "Guinea Pigs Hogs". :D :D :D

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:


Oh.......   Chit......     That's entirely different.
Title: Re: Oil pump failure due to synthetic oil
Post by: porthole on January 01, 2012, 02:27:38 PM
Quote from: Twolanerider on January 01, 2012, 10:31:59 AM
Via mental bluetooth connection it tells me

Bullchit!
You ain't gots no mental bluetoothes...........


iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: Oil pump failure due to synthetic oil
Post by: hogasm on January 01, 2012, 06:16:51 PM
Quote from: Twolanerider on January 01, 2012, 11:03:39 AM
I don't like hamsters.  Try to ride the little buggers and my fingers are too big to hook up the little saddles and my ass is big enough they get squished about the same time I say "giddy up."  And don't even get me started on saddlebag space and the lack of a tour pak....

This reminded me of my fishing buddy, Dr. James. He told me a story of removing a hamster from a young mans anus.....had something to do with a sexual act :nervous:
Title: Re: Oil pump failure due to synthetic oil
Post by: mjb765 on January 01, 2012, 06:42:10 PM
WOW--did this thread ever take a wrong turn!! From synthetic oil causing oil pump failures, to Don riding hamsters, to pulling them out of people's asses.........


But I did enjoy the mental pic of Don riding a hamster being pissed about the no saddlebags and lack of tourpack......


Gotta love this place sometimes.....
Title: Re: Oil pump failure due to synthetic oil
Post by: Twolanerider on January 01, 2012, 07:23:41 PM
Quote from: mjb765 on January 01, 2012, 06:42:10 PM
WOW--did this thread ever take a wrong turn!! From synthetic oil causing oil pump failures, to Don riding hamsters, to pulling them out of people's asses.........


But I did enjoy the mental pic of Don riding a hamster being pissed about the no saddlebags and lack of tourpack......


Gotta love this place sometimes.....


It's true, a guy can learn a lot in an oil thread.....  ::)
Title: Re: Oil pump failure due to synthetic oil
Post by: Lever on January 01, 2012, 08:08:29 PM
everytime i see the KIA soul / scion  commercials with the hamsters   I'm  lmao  thinking of this thread
Title: Re: Oil pump failure due to synthetic oil
Post by: digga25 on January 01, 2012, 09:13:02 PM
what the fck happened to this thread.
Title: Re: Oil pump failure due to synthetic oil
Post by: Lever on January 01, 2012, 09:39:58 PM
Hamsters
Title: Re: Oil pump failure due to synthetic oil
Post by: Twolanerider on January 01, 2012, 09:40:10 PM
Quote from: digga25 on January 01, 2012, 09:13:02 PM
what the fck happened to this thread.

Forever it shall now be said, oil threads lead to gerbil chit. 
Title: Re: Oil pump failure due to synthetic oil
Post by: Lever on January 01, 2012, 09:41:14 PM
lmao
Title: Re: Oil pump failure due to synthetic oil
Post by: mjb765 on January 01, 2012, 10:34:01 PM
Quote from: Twolanerider on January 01, 2012, 09:40:10 PM
Forever it shall now be said, oil threads lead to gerbil chit. 


 :ROFLOL:
Title: Re: Oil pump failure due to synthetic oil
Post by: Hawg on January 02, 2012, 11:19:34 AM
So,if you keep your oil pump in the dark it won't know what kind of oil you are using. :2vrolijk_21:
Now the question is who's oil do you run through your bikes veins?
Title: Re: Oil pump failure due to synthetic oil
Post by: Twolanerider on January 02, 2012, 12:04:30 PM
Quote from: Hawg on January 02, 2012, 11:19:34 AM
So,if you keep your oil pump in the dark it won't know what kind of oil you are using. :2vrolijk_21:
Now the question is who's oil do you run through your bikes veins?

I use, without exception, my own oil.  I never steal anyone else's oil.  That would be wrong.
Title: Re: Oil pump failure due to synthetic oil
Post by: Dan_Lockwood on January 03, 2012, 11:18:31 AM
I'm still wondering how an oil pump on synthetic oil is considered a drive train thread.  Yes, a motor is part of the drive train, but not in the context of our thread descriptions.  This probably would have received more attention in the Twin Cam threads.

Just ask'n...

By the way, Happy New Year everyone!
Title: Re: Oil pump failure due to synthetic oil
Post by: Talon on January 03, 2012, 12:07:24 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: Oil pump failure due to synthetic oil
Post by: Hawg on January 04, 2012, 10:48:18 PM
I believe we have put the matter to rest, synthetic oil as far as most are concerned should not contribute to an oil pump failure. I feel much better now and will certainly pass the info on.