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Title: Screamin eagle ventilator
Post by: FELIX on September 11, 2021, 12:09:12 AM
I am looking to increase the air flow.  I am leaning towards the higher flow filter system that comes in 2 parts backing plate and filter and then the cover.  I am locked in on a black backing plate, BUT I am a little stuck on the cover, I want it to be in the same "brushed chrome" that the rest of the bike has but my only option for a cover seems to be black or chrome.  Anyone run into this, perhaps the chrome they have is not the shiny and is exactly what I am looking for?  thoughts.

backing plate and filter:
[url]https://www.harley-davidson.com/us/en/shop/Screamin-Eagle-Ventilator-Extreme-Air-Cleaner/p/29400397?source_cd=SEM_Shop_PLA&_cr=ssc%7cGOOGLE%7cGM-Other-Pilot%7c%7c29400397&gclsrc=ds/url]

Cover in chrome:
[url]https://shopbigskyharley.com/products/screamin-eagle-ventilator-extreme-air-cleaner-29400396?variant=40000337084576&currency=USD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&utm_campaign=gs-2021-05-13&utm_source=google&utm_medium=smart_campaign/url]
Title: Re: Screamin eagle ventilator
Post by: Mofo67 on September 11, 2021, 06:08:35 AM
Check with Fuel Moto. They sell an upgraded backplate and filter that allows you to use your factory front cover.
Title: Re: Screamin eagle ventilator
Post by: FELIX on September 11, 2021, 06:41:33 AM
I am checking them out now. I'm really liking the option that I can use my original air cleaner cover and go stealth. My only concern is do I get the high flow, I've reached out and asked them if they could show me a picture of the new backing plate and if they could explain what's helping me get the higher flow of air is it just the K&N Filter itself?
Title: Re: Screamin eagle ventilator
Post by: Mofo67 on September 11, 2021, 09:12:54 AM
FM is a really good company to work with. Listed as 80% more flow and with FM I would say that is correct.
FYI, they are closed on the weekend, expect to hear back early next week.
Title: Re: Screamin eagle ventilator
Post by: FELIX on September 11, 2021, 11:30:09 AM
Okay thanks very much. I think this really is going to be the way I'm going to go really appreciate to mentioning this company
Title: Re: Screamin eagle ventilator
Post by: rayson56 on September 11, 2021, 12:31:39 PM
This is what you need ; https://www.amazon.com/RK-3956S-Intake-System-Harley-Davidson/dp/B07N27T5JW

Have it drop shipped to Paul at Fuel Moto and he'll massage it for you for about $100. It will be a direct bolt on for your bike. You will then use your own Ventilator cover. Paul has done a bunch of these and also includes a fitment kit. Hurry though it looks like K&N has discontinued the silver ones. Works fantastic and looks better than stock too. It sits level instead of cocked forward like stock.

Title: Re: Screamin eagle ventilator
Post by: HOGMIKE on September 11, 2021, 01:06:23 PM
I am looking to increase the air flow.  I am leaning towards the higher flow filter system that comes in 2 parts backing plate and filter and then the cover.  I am locked in on a black backing plate, BUT I am a little stuck on the cover, I want it to be in the same "brushed chrome" that the rest of the bike has but my only option for a cover seems to be black or chrome.  Anyone run into this, perhaps the chrome they have is not the shiny and is exactly what I am looking for?  thoughts.

backing plate and filter:
[url]https://www.harley-davidson.com/us/en/shop/Screamin-Eagle-Ventilator-Extreme-Air-Cleaner/p/29400397?source_cd=SEM_Shop_PLA&_cr=ssc%7cGOOGLE%7cGM-Other-Pilot%7c%7c29400397&gclsrc=ds/url]

Cover in chrome:
[url]https://shopbigskyharley.com/products/screamin-eagle-ventilator-extreme-air-cleaner-29400396?variant=40000337084576&currency=USD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&utm_campaign=gs-2021-05-13&utm_source=google&utm_medium=smart_campaign/url]


Is this for a 2020 cvo Streetglide?
Don’t they come with a heavy breather?
How about a picture of what you have?
 :nixweiss:
Title: Re: Screamin eagle ventilator
Post by: FELIX on September 11, 2021, 01:09:36 PM
Hi, actually the photo above provided by  rayson56  is exactly what I have.  I am looking to increase the airflow, the fuel Moto and the screamin eagle one by harley claim to increase the air flow even more than what came with the bike.  plus its a cleanable filter.
Title: Re: Screamin eagle ventilator
Post by: rayson56 on September 11, 2021, 08:00:41 PM
What you have is what came stock with your Ventilator, the K&N is over twice as big. The pic I sent is of the bottom one, you have the top one.

Title: Re: Screamin eagle ventilator
Post by: rayson56 on September 11, 2021, 08:17:18 PM

Is this for a 2020 cvo Streetglide?
Don’t they come with a heavy breather?
How about a picture of what you have?
 :nixweiss:

CVO ROAD Glide comes with the Heavy Breather, CVO Street Glide comes with the Ventilator.
Title: Re: Screamin eagle ventilator
Post by: FELIX on September 11, 2021, 10:18:20 PM
CVO ROAD Glide comes with the Heavy Breather, CVO Street Glide comes with the Ventilator.

Great description. Thankyou.  Are you happy with your decision to put the k&n one in?
Title: Re: Screamin eagle ventilator
Post by: rayson56 on September 12, 2021, 01:22:10 PM
Very much, when I had my bike dynoed it did even better than expected. After the tune was done I had him make another run without the A/C and it didn't lose anything until the upper rpm's. Even then it was only about 2hp above 5K. I can definitely live with that.
Title: Re: Screamin eagle ventilator
Post by: HOGMIKE on September 12, 2021, 06:56:36 PM
Hi, actually the photo above provided by  rayson56  is exactly what I have.  I am looking to increase the airflow, the fuel Moto and the screamin eagle one by harley claim to increase the air flow even more than what came with the bike.  plus its a cleanable filter.

It may help us all to know what your overall goals are.
There are a lot of pretty smart people on this forum and then there also some of us not so smart!

I used the fuel Moto air cleaner kit recommended by a source I trust to complement my build. I hear that the “heavy breather” is also a high flow unit that may flow a little more.

I also made a BUNCH of changes to the drive train to get the HP/TQ where I wanted.

If you have that goal you can always collect the parts before hand, keep riding the bike stock, then tear into it and have all the right parts installed.
Saves time and money in the long run. My “friend” told me all this!
 8)
Title: Re: Screamin eagle ventilator
Post by: rayson56 on September 12, 2021, 07:39:06 PM
Mike is right about doing as many upgrades at once as possible. Especially when they require a $400 to $500 dyno each time. In my opinion nothing is better than a good dyno tune to get the most out of your upgrades. This A/C upgrade is well worth the time and $$$ and really looks nice. The K&N 3956 (S) is Silver (they also offer it in a matt black) so it will go well with your Silver accents without any additional powder coating and it sits level with your tank unlike your factory backing plate, for a much nicer look.
Title: Re: Screamin eagle ventilator
Post by: FELIX on September 12, 2021, 09:13:13 PM
Yes I agree.  Mine is a 2020 Seaview 117. I have already bought the full stack pipes and Muffler upgrade I have not installed anything yet I have a TS tuner which I have used before on previous bike so I'm familiar with that process the last thing for my winter project would be good ventilator or air cleaner and that's why I'm searching for this at this time and then I will install everything and be happy. I realized that the warranty will be avoided and I'm willing to undergo that risk.
Title: Re: Screamin eagle ventilator
Post by: FELIX on September 14, 2021, 09:52:24 PM
This is what you need ; https://www.amazon.com/RK-3956S-Intake-System-Harley-Davidson/dp/B07N27T5JW

Have it drop shipped to Paul at Fuel Moto and he'll massage it for you for about $100. It will be a direct bolt on for your bike. You will then use your own Ventilator cover. Paul has done a bunch of these and also includes a fitment kit. Hurry though it looks like K&N has discontinued the silver ones. Works fantastic and looks better than stock too. It sits level instead of cocked forward like stock.

Question:  Did you have them cut that "top" securing piece off your cover for you?  Or did you do that?  Mine has a cover like this one.

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Title: Re: Screamin eagle ventilator
Post by: rayson56 on September 15, 2021, 11:26:32 AM
Had a local machine shop do it for better breathing but turned it upside down for a little more finished look. You can do either...or both.  ;)
Title: Re: Screamin eagle ventilator
Post by: FELIX on September 15, 2021, 02:08:48 PM
Okay that's really good to know thank you.

So my last question I hope, is why do I need to send the filter from Amazon to Fuel Moto. What do they do to it?
Title: Re: Screamin eagle ventilator
Post by: HOGMIKE on September 15, 2021, 03:16:43 PM
Okay that's really good to know thank you.

So my last question I hope, is why do I need to send the filter from Amazon to Fuel Moto. What do they do to it?

I’m not sure about sending out the filter and all the assorted fitment issues.
Here are some pics of mine after service on the filter today.

Bought the whole package from fuelmoto, complete kit just bolt it on. It flows enough air to support 150hp+/-. Everything was included in the box. Only thing I changed was to go to external breather.
No more oil in the throttle body!
JMHO, save yourself some time and grief!


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Title: Re: Screamin eagle ventilator
Post by: FELIX on September 15, 2021, 03:31:43 PM
I’m not sure about sending out the filter and all the assorted fitment issues.
Here are some pics of mine after service on the filter today.

Bought the whole package from fuelmoto, complete kit just bolt it on. It flows enough air to support 150hp+/-. Everything was included in the box. Only thing I changed was to go to external breather.
No more oil in the throttle body!
JMHO, save yourself some time and grief!

Cool thankyou.  I like it. . Do you have pics of how you hooked in the external breather?  I really want to do that as well.
Title: Re: Screamin eagle ventilator
Post by: rayson56 on September 15, 2021, 03:45:08 PM
https://www.fuelmotousa.com/i-23897773-kn-fuel-moto-custom-hi-flow-air-cleaner-for-m8-ventilator.html#!year%3D2018%7C%7Cmake%3DHARLEY-DAVIDSON%7C%7Cmodel%3DTOURING%20FLH%2FFLT%20MODELS

This one is what you are looking for BUT the backing plate will be flat black, you can get the Silver one that I sent you and have Paul at Fuel Moto machine it up for you if you wish. If you are interested talk to Paul himself.
Title: Re: Screamin eagle ventilator
Post by: FELIX on September 15, 2021, 04:13:18 PM
https://www.fuelmotousa.com/i-23897773-kn-fuel-moto-custom-hi-flow-air-cleaner-for-m8-ventilator.html#!year%3D2018%7C%7Cmake%3DHARLEY-DAVIDSON%7C%7Cmodel%3DTOURING%20FLH%2FFLT%20MODELS

This one is what you are looking for BUT the backing plate will be flat black, you can get the Silver one that I sent you and have Paul at Fuel Moto machine it up for you if you wish. If you are interested talk to Paul himself.

Awesome, thank you very much, I have a call into them now.
Title: Re: Screamin eagle ventilator
Post by: HOGMIKE on September 15, 2021, 04:50:14 PM
Cool thankyou.  I like it. . Do you have pics of how you hooked in the external breather?  I really want to do that as well.


If you do a search here you may find some others have done this.
I followed a couple of different ideas and came up with my own version.
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Title: Re: Screamin eagle ventilator
Post by: FELIX on September 15, 2021, 05:28:55 PM

If you do a search here you may find some others have done this.
I followed a couple of different ideas and came up with my own version.

Perfect.  I am liking it.  I will very likely copy you.  Tapping the Breather before is perfect.