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Re: Question about suspension
« Reply #15 on: May 03, 2004, 09:32:02 AM »

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Re: Question about suspension
« Reply #16 on: May 03, 2004, 10:34:46 PM »

With lowers and tour pak on, I got up to about 110MPH and it started a wobble,  I did not say anything to anyone, I was afraid I would be accused of wimping out.  it sure got my attention.  Will try it with lowers and tour pak off.  
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Re: Question about suspension
« Reply #17 on: May 03, 2004, 11:24:14 PM »

AK and I both had our leg fairings on and I had the King Tour Pak loaded, and my wife, at 120, with no problems.  For me, the fairings, and other parts of the bike have little to do with it.  It's the tracking and the road.
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Re: Question about suspension
« Reply #18 on: May 04, 2004, 08:45:56 AM »

Thats the problem riding with nice butts  AK they can be a distraction.   [smiley=gorgeous.gif]
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Re: Question about suspension
« Reply #19 on: May 04, 2004, 10:31:32 AM »

Just to add to the survey, I get a little wobble at 80+ on the curves if I hit a bump. It straightens itself out without me having to lift on the throttle. I figure its because of uneven weight distribution in the saddle bags. I have a bag of tools on the right side. I hit 110 to 115 a few times a week and no wobble at all.
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Re: Question about suspension
« Reply #20 on: May 04, 2004, 07:11:51 PM »

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FYI..Ive been to 120mph with no wobble...I had a puckered A$$ but the bike handled fine.

At 125 mine was as smoothe as silk.......with the lowers on
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Re: Question about suspension
« Reply #21 on: May 09, 2004, 09:02:33 PM »

Just came back from a long weekend trip (1,000 miles). I removed the King Tour-Pack and the bike handled perfectly... I kept the lowers. I forgot to tell you guys that I have the fairing air deflectors installed so they can also be part of the problem.

I will try again with tour pack installed and no deflectors...
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Re: Question about suspension
« Reply #22 on: May 12, 2004, 03:56:26 PM »

My bike wobbles like crazy on fast turns also. I was riding the express ways out of the Smokey Mountains heading back to Michigan and there were a lot of 45/55 mph curves. I had my daughter on the back so at the very most I may have hit 75 mph ( if that ). At first I thought the wobble was because of low air in the tires or shocks, I checked both and increased to 20psi in the shocks, it did little to help. I'm not happy and I would like to get it fixed so please keep the post coming on this subject.
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BTW the bike scraped a lot while we were riding in the mountains and on Deals Gap but I guess we never went fast enough to make it wobble.
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Re: Question about suspension
« Reply #23 on: May 12, 2004, 04:22:18 PM »

I had an HD Factory Trained and Factory Certified Tech point something out to me.  Stand behind your bike about 15 feet and look at the center of your fender (eyeball down from the little V medallion) to the center of your tire (center tread) and see if they line up.  

If you have a wobble problem and your bike is out of alignement, take it to your dealer and tell them you need an alignment.  Gary has also posted comments on this in the Road Glide forum.  As I understand it from the tech. the factory is not aligning all bikes from the factory.  It has to do with your motor mounts up front......all the way back through the drive train.
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Re: Question about suspension
« Reply #24 on: May 12, 2004, 07:01:55 PM »

JCZ is right, it COULD be your vehicle alignment. To repeat part of an earlier post, one of my employees used to be a wrench at SAC HD. He said 80% of the NEW vehicles he checked were out of alignment right from the factory.

Also in another post, I talked about the True Track unit and I REALLY found this to be a great help. In fact along with the progressive shocks I installed on my 01 SERG, It now handles very good. With no passenger, my buddy on his new 120 HD Race Motor and I did well over 125 mph for around 5 miles just outside of Needles on the way to Laughlin and everything was stable. (speed estimated, speedo buried!) We also did over 300 miles at around 105 - 110 and even with heavy winds that day, it was a steady ride.

Check out the true track for dressers at:
http://www.true-track.com

This MAY BE a good candidate for one of JCZ's world famous "GROUP BUYS"
There is a tool required to make sure your lower frame cross member is propoerly aligned / staightened. We bought the pro model tool for my bud's shop here in Stockton and he could do the install for anyone in this area or I guess I could mail it on a loan basis to someone. You MUST use the tool once before installing the true track unit.

And before anyone asks, I am in NO WAY affiliated with true-track. I just like to share good things when I find them with everyone one this site because everyone here is so helpful when I need help [smiley=bigok.gif]
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Re: Question about suspension
« Reply #25 on: May 12, 2004, 10:19:01 PM »

For those of you who are newer, on this site, Gary is a guy who is a living example of somebody who takes it to the edge (or plays it to the edge).  For instance, here is his dyno sheet.....
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Re: Question about suspension
« Reply #26 on: May 12, 2004, 10:24:14 PM »

Gary I only have a slight wobble, once in a great while.....so I'm going to go with the alignment first.  If that doesn't work, then I'll probably go with the Tru Track.
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Re: Question about suspension
« Reply #27 on: May 12, 2004, 11:27:13 PM »

I have had this problem 3 times with 3 different bikes over the years.  Of course it was never the same solution on any of the bikes.  Each time the problem occurred, the bike was new.  On one bike it was a steering head bearing, but it was more of a weave than a wobble.  On another bike it was vehicle alignment and again it was more of a weave than a wobble.  And on the last bike it was a missing wheel spacer on the rear wheel, which resulted in a violent tank slapper between 120-140kph.  In all cases the problem was repaired and never occurred again.

Based on my experiences, if you are experiencing a weave instead of a wobble it is likely either the steering head or alignment.  If you have a wobble there is something seriously wrong with your bike.  In either case I wouldn't be testing it any more than you need to or you may not get out of the next one so easily.  Tank slappers are scary as he!!, especially in a corner.
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Re: Question about suspension
« Reply #28 on: May 13, 2004, 08:29:49 AM »

JCZ,

I need to scan in my newest dyno sheet for this 116 inch. With the White Bros. E series slip-ons, standard core and 14 disks with open end cap, HP is now 109.7 and TQ is 136.1 after re-dyno-tuning.

I now have this problem with "accidental wheelies" going into 2nd gear [smiley=bigok.gif]

No, I am not currently looking for a cure! Unlike suspension problems, I plan to just live with this problem.

Call me when you want to do the vehicle alignment.
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Re: Question about suspension
« Reply #29 on: May 13, 2004, 09:53:44 AM »

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I need to scan in my newest dyno sheet for this 116 inch. With the White Bros. E series slip-ons, standard core and 14 disks with open end cap, HP is now 109.7 and TQ is 136.1 after re-dyno-tuning.

I now have this problem with "accidental wheelies" going into 2nd gear [smiley=bigok.gif]

No, I am not currently looking for a cure! Unlike suspension problems, I plan to just live with this problem.

Call me when you want to do the vehicle alignment.


Hell, forget the vehicle alignment, did you do the tuning on your bike?
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