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Re: How does this work?
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2018, 07:47:25 AM »

compensator needed to absorb drivetrain pulse-shock,no compensater= flywheel-drive train- abuse,wish curing compensater issues were as simple as a solid gear
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Re: How does this work?
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2018, 08:17:03 AM »


That BDL piece has been around for awhile, and it isn't much if any better than a simple solid sprocket.  I wouldn't recommend it.  The Harley Big Twin needs an effective compensator to protect the crankshaft and primary components.

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Re: How does this work?
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2018, 09:33:08 AM »

Back in 08 my comp was replaced with Evo Industries solid sprocket. Made my arms and legs fall asleep 55mph and above. Really weird feeling. Had it taken out and first revision of HD comp assembly installed been in there since. I think what helped at Jim Hddude's advise Used Baker Primary bearing.
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Re: How does this work?
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2018, 05:02:16 PM »

If your having problems with the Harley "compensator" , I can highly recommend the "Compensaver", but it only worth installing with a new or nearly new compensator.

It works to cover the compensator with a constant flow of primary oil, using a collecting tray beneath the chain to collect the oil then running past a magnet and then through holes and on to the sprockets of the compensator, the area that gets starved in the normal set-up.

I have been running one since it was launched and so far has been fine.
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Re: How does this work?
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2018, 10:49:02 AM »

Just had the latest rendition of Harley's compensator installed under ESP. It also has the glue-in tray to direct oil to the places that were not getting oil. This one will buy me enough time to research an aftermarket replacement.
Even though I asked....I am sure they didn't check the tensioner or the chain.....or the bearings. I still hear  a bit of chain slap and have the clunk into first....and hard to find neutral. Will be ordering a tensioner from SOHB...and checking things out inside ther myself!
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Re: How does this work?
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2018, 03:58:03 PM »

I wasn't thinking of going that route.  I was being  curious whilst I was sloshing around in the paddling pool what benefit if any if one was installed. I see what you're all saying that the compensator is more like a shock absorber for the motor and primary components. Thanks for the input
BTW. Just to pre warn you this most likely won't be the last dumb question I'll ask  :huepfenlol2:

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Re: How does this work?
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2018, 05:25:40 PM »

Dynn66

If you have just had a new Compensator fitted, even with the glued in oil tray (which only helps getting oil to the centre of the comp),

it does not stop the lobes from excessive wear.

You should do a bit of research on the "Compensaver"  at  compensaver.com.

As I said "it works"  very well.

 
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Re: How does this work?
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2018, 05:44:56 PM »



Well there you go, it looks like HD have finally listened!!!

The "compensaver" has been suspended from Sale, they due to the fact that Harley have now copied there design so closely that they have finally got a reliable Compensator.

Took them long enough!
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Re: How does this work?
« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2018, 04:25:39 AM »

I have the stock compensator in my 07 ultra classic with 22k on it, so far it's doing good.
At some point I'm sure it'll need to be changed.

I see that the biggest problem with a compensator is the lack of lube getting to the inner part of the compensator any thoughts as to what would be a good compensator to upgrade too that's  reasonably  priced ?
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Re: How does this work?
« Reply #10 on: August 01, 2018, 09:59:24 AM »

You have the choice of 2 (don't even think about a compensator eliminator, the compensator is there for a reason),

1. the Baker compensator, cant comment on its reliability as never used one, but do know they are on there 3rd or 4th version.

2. The Harley SE compensator HD-40100076,  £243.76.  from Harley Davidson Jersey (no VAT to pay)  appears to be working quite
    Well.

    Mine is a slightly earlier version, it had the Radial bearing, which was very noisey, the latest version has gone back to a fibre washer,
    its much quieter.

One thing, do you have a seperate Stator cover and compensator, or is yours welded together with the comp spring pack assembly?

If so you will need to get a new Stator rota cover or cut the spring cup off the old one to enable the SE Comp to fit.
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Re: How does this work?
« Reply #11 on: August 01, 2018, 12:35:11 PM »

You have the choice of 2 (don't even think about a compensator eliminator, the compensator is there for a reason),

1. the Baker compensator, cant comment on its reliability as never used one, but do know they are on there 3rd or 4th version.

2. The Harley SE compensator HD-40100076,  £243.76.  from Harley Davidson Jersey (no VAT to pay)  appears to be working quite
    Well.

    Mine is a slightly earlier version, it had the Radial bearing, which was very noisey, the latest version has gone back to a fibre washer,
    its much quieter.

One thing, do you have a seperate Stator cover and compensator, or is yours welded together with the comp spring pack assembly?

If so you will need to get a new Stator rota cover or cut the spring cup off the old one to enable the SE Comp to fit.

It's the separate type from the compensator.  I'm getting no longer available on that part # from Jersey search list
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Re: How does this work?
« Reply #12 on: August 01, 2018, 02:22:58 PM »

Are you sure you put the correct number in 40100076 ,  I just checked and it says its available £243.79.  ??


https://www.jerseyh-d.com/PartSearch?search=40100076
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Re: How does this work?
« Reply #13 on: August 01, 2018, 07:33:00 PM »

I must be losing my nuts n bolts, I tried it a few time kept getting the same thing, (No longer available)  :-X

Tried the number again just now and the bloody thing worked  :nixweiss: :huepfenlol2:

It shows no pic of the part  how does one know this is the updated version .

I've been looking and I think I found the upgraded one. If I'm right it has oil pick up portal around the circumference of the body or

Is this the newer version

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/232854499073?ul_ref=http%253A%252F%252Frover.ebay.com%252Frover%252F1%252F710-53481-19255-0%252F1%253Fff3%253D2%2526toolid%253D10044%2526campid%253D5338268676%2526customid%253D3f645feb-ea1b-4195-945b-a707ebb4f0a7%2526lgeo%253D1%2526vectorid%253D229508%2526item%253D232854499073%2526srcrot%253D710-53481-19255-0%2526rvr_id%253D1618239811831%2526rvr_ts%253Df7d810091640ac3d67849640fff892f0&ul_noapp=true
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Re: How does this work?
« Reply #14 on: August 01, 2018, 10:35:52 PM »

The one in that link might not be an H-D part, its identified as an Ultima part (aftermarket company).    It doesn't come with the new style rotor so you would need to buy that separately.  That one also comes with the noisy thrust bearing Trippy mentioned.

The one in the 2018 SE Catalog is shown in the attachment.  If you still have the stock 2007 rotor, you will need the new style rotor.  There is a separate kit, marked on the attachment, that comes with the new rotor.  If you have the new style rotor, then you just need first one listed.

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