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[TSmith]

I bought the tuner unaware that it marries to your bike and I let a friend connect it to his bike to check his program out and I was wondering if there was anyway to get it changed so I can use it for myself?

[Layin the Pipe]

Pretty sure that you need to have him pay you for that one and buy another one since it is indeed attached to his bike. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.

[HDGearHead]

Unfortunately you're going to have to purchase another one.  Hopefully its a good friend that is willing to pay you for the one that is now locked to his bike.

[Charlie]

Nope! hes stuck with it!

[Fired00d]

Pretty sure that you need to have him pay you for that one and buy another one since it is indeed attached to his bike. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.

X2 I'm thinking the same thing too. To add to that the previous tuner he had may not be worth anything to anybody now because I'm thinking that the ECM can only be married to one tuner and the previous one was wiped out (divorced ) when he hooked up the new one. He needs to pay you for the tuner that is now married to his bike so you can get a new one.

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[Fullsac Performance]

I have never used the SE product. If its the same as the TTS in this reqard, its not locked to the bike until a tuning calibration is loaded into the ECM.
Even after its locked, you can use TTS all day for scaning codes, data logging ect on as many bikes as you like. I would suggest trying to downloading a calibration
to to the correct bike before you run out and buy another.

Steve

[ultrarider123]

According to HD, my parts buddy and retired HD mechanic, the SE tuner is bike specific.  Once it's "attached" to a bike, it's married to it whether there was any download or not.  Ain't no divorce in the SE tuner arena.  Unlike the TTS that Steve mentions/sells where you can upgrade the TTS to mod more than one scooter, can't be done on the MoCo SE tuner.  What else would you expect from the MoCo....
Get your buddy to buy you one for your ride if you still want to go SE tuner.  Or, better yet, spend a bit less and get him to buy the better TTS unit for you and y'all can compare operational differences.....

[FUNGOUL]

could you switch ecm's with each other if they are the same ecm's???

[grc]

Steve, as a long time F/S customer I'd like to see you begin offering the Super Tuner in addition to the M/T and let the customers decide which is better for them. M/T has a great product which I've purchased from you for 3 previous bikes. The problem for many riders like myself is that so few shops in Canada or the US are capable of using anything but SE tuners. And for those of us who are somewhat computer challenged that means tuning beyond your M/T map is out of the question.    
Jerry    

I kind of doubt that, assuming you're going to a dealership that has a real tuner on the premises.  If they were around when Harley sold the SERT, they were basically tuning with a TTS system (they were the vendor for the original SERT).  I think most of the places that give you that story are just trying to sell people an SEPST.  Real tuners tend to be able to work with everything from a PCIII to a SEPST to a TTS, since they are all mainstream products.

Anyhow, sorry for jumping into the middle of a question directed for Steve.  I'll butt out now.

Jerry

[SE120R]

I agree with Steve, It dosen't marry it self to the bike untill you download a cal. I,ve used hundreds of sepst but I never break the seal till I'm ready to start a tune.
RC

[HDGearHead]

I kind of doubt that, assuming you're going to a dealership that has a real tuner on the premises.  If they were around when Harley sold the SERT, they were basically tuning with a TTS system (they were the vendor for the original SERT).  I think most of the places that give you that story are just trying to sell people an SEPST.  Real tuners tend to be able to work with everything from a PCIII to a SEPST to a TTS, since they are all mainstream products.

Anyhow, sorry for jumping into the middle of a question directed for Steve.  I'll butt out now.

Jerry

Even if the tuner is comfortable with it, the dealer or MOCO may not permit Mastertune to be installed on the computer the dealer uses to tune  I've personally encountered this.

[HDGearHead]

I would suggest trying to downloading a calibration to to the correct bike before you run out and buy another.

Steve

Steve makes a excellent point.  While it may already be locked to your friends bike, it doesn't hurt to try and download a cal to yours to confirm before you buy a replacement.

[Doc 1]

I have never used the SE product. If its the same as the TTS in this reqard, its not locked to the bike until a tuning calibration is loaded into the ECM.
Even after its locked, you can use TTS all day for scaning codes, data logging ect on as many bikes as you like. I would suggest trying to downloading a calibration
to to the correct bike before you run out and buy another.

Steve

Steve the Harley Tuner locks to the bike even if you record data.
Doc

[Fullsac Performance]

Steve, as a long time F/S customer I'd like to see you begin offering the Super Tuner in addition to the M/T and let the customers decide which is better for them. M/T has a great product which I've purchased from you for 3 previous bikes. The problem for many riders like myself is that so few shops in Canada or the US are capable of using anything but SE tuners. And for those of us who are somewhat computer challenged that means tuning beyond your M/T map is out of the question.    
Jerry    

Hi Jerry

As a distributor for TTS, I sell to countless franchised Harley dealers who tune with TTS, SEST, Power Commander Ect. Harley does not require franchised dealers
to operate dynos in their service department, its their choice. And for the ones that do operate dynos, Harley certainly has no control over the software loaded into the techs PC that's tuning the bikes. What the dealer is really saying, is that they only sell SEST, the Harley product. If they say Harley doesn't allow them to tune with another software in the dyno room that they chose to install, well that's an example of salesmanship at its worst. I'm always open to using any competitive product my customers need or request. In competent hands the SE product can tune a bike. But its not product I can purchase under my business name thanks to Harley's dealer protection plan. Maybe I can get one or two off the internet at 20% discount if I'm lucky. Profit? Its just not there. Currently the TTS product is available to everyone and still the best from a tuners standpoint. Even if I could offer SEST and fuel maps allowing you to curcumvent the dealer and his dyno, whats the advantage over TTS at this point?

I appreciate your suggestions!

Steve George
Fullsac Performance

[TSmith]

Thanks for all the replies, I think I will try to download a map just to see, I figure I have nothing to loss. If that doesn't work I'll see if he will replace and learn from my mistake. Bought leason is one you never forget!!