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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #195 on: January 29, 2016, 02:36:42 AM »

I ordered my 117 kit today its also going on a breakout and I am using the 259 cam as well. I am not worried about it Harley had to do testing on it before they put it out on the market.
Good one!  I finally stopped laughing and got up off the floor so I could reply.

MoCo's polite name for us is "customers."  Their PC in-house term is "beta-testers," which indicates the second set of tests.  The real name is "alpha-testers," meaning the first round of testing, also known as guinea pigs, c.t. dummies, etc.

My guess is HD did the same kind of tests as they did on the 2007 CVO's heated grips, rocker box covers, cylinder tolerances and base o-rings, cam bearings, crankshafts, lifters, primary and cam chain adjusters, compensators, inner primary bearings, Cruise-Drive bearings, wheel chrome...the kind of testing known as "none."  I probably know I missed a few...
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #196 on: January 29, 2016, 03:33:23 AM »

Good one!  I finally stopped laughing and got up off the floor so I could reply.

MoCo's polite name for us is "customers."  Their PC in-house term is "beta-testers," which indicates the second set of tests.  The real name is "alpha-testers," meaning the first round of testing, also known as guinea pigs, c.t. dummies, etc.

My guess is HD did the same kind of tests as they did on the 2007 CVO's heated grips, rocker box covers, cylinder tolerances and base o-rings, cam bearings, crankshafts, lifters, primary and cam chain adjusters, compensators, inner primary bearings, Cruise-Drive bearings, wheel chrome...the kind of testing known as "none."  I probably missed a few...

Why would anyone buy a HD....?
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #197 on: January 29, 2016, 03:58:57 AM »

Why would anyone buy a HD....?
Kool-Aid, drugs, ignorance, stupidity; or maybe to get an education in these inner workings of an icon.   ;)

I'm guilty of the first 4; the last one was a bonus.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #198 on: January 29, 2016, 05:59:22 AM »

Kool-Aid, drugs, ignorance, stupidity; or maybe to get an education in these inner workings of an icon.   ;)

I'm guilty of the first 4; the last one was a bonus.

Sure are a lot of unhappy CVO owners on this forum. Glad I'm not one of them. Maybe they should look into Victory or Indian motorcycles. I hear they're pretty nice. Fast too.  :huepfenjump3:
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #199 on: January 29, 2016, 06:06:43 AM »

Did they dyno the bike before the work was done to show a comparison before and after as that is the real value vs. just a number off a dyno.
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Tech will spend 4 to 5 hours tuning the bike. I'll post the chart when he's done. Should have the bike today unless he blew up the crappy jugs that came with the kit  :huepfenlol2:(just wanted to make the naysayers happy).  I had a dyno tune done on my Breakout two years ago, so I can also compare that one. With the stock 110 and Bassani ProStreet turnout pipes it showed 107 tq and 87 hp. That was up about 10 on each side from the first run. I'm hoping for some nice gains with the 117.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #200 on: January 29, 2016, 06:08:37 AM »

I am assuming they are using SE tuner for the Dyno tune. Is it  full blown Dyno tune from scratch, or are they just going to do the EPA or Race download that comes with the kit?

I have a Screamin Eagle Race Tuner and they will do a full blown dyno
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #201 on: January 29, 2016, 06:13:14 AM »


Sure are a lot of unhappy CVO owners on this forum. Glad I'm not one of them. Maybe they should look into Victory or Indian motorcycles. I hear they're pretty nice. Fast too.  :huepfenjump3:

Yah, this.

The other HD forums are even worse.

I think gold wings are super reliable and make good power. Probably a viable option for a lot of people from what I'm seeing.


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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #202 on: January 29, 2016, 07:43:29 AM »

Yes they are

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Pistons should fit.
GMR says will only fit the late tapered rods. Pistons can be machined.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #203 on: January 29, 2016, 07:48:13 AM »

Thanks for information :)


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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #204 on: January 29, 2016, 09:07:08 AM »

Tech will spend 4 to 5 hours tuning the bike. I'll post the chart when he's done. Should have the bike today unless he blew up the crappy jugs that came with the kit  :huepfenlol2:(just wanted to make the naysayers happy).  I had a dyno tune done on my Breakout two years ago, so I can also compare that one. With the stock 110 and Bassani ProStreet turnout pipes it showed 107 tq and 87 hp. That was up about 10 on each side from the first run. I'm hoping for some nice gains with the 117.

Wow, your old numbers are low. If you don't get the numbers your hoping for with 117 kit you may want to try a different exhaust or dynoman. Wishing you the best and looking forward to your report.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #205 on: January 29, 2016, 09:38:41 AM »

Wow, your old numbers are low. If you don't get the numbers your hoping for with 117 kit you may want to try a different exhaust or dynoman. Wishing you the best and looking forward to your report.

Actually, my numbers are pretty average for a stock 110B engine with after market exhausts. I did plenty of checking around, believe me. I'm sure some on this forum will have higher, however. I'm picking up my bike in an hour. Will post the dyno chart and ride report this afternoon.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #206 on: January 29, 2016, 10:55:00 AM »

I think my numbers with just exahust and tune were 88 and 108 so pretty similar I think the exahust affects more where the lines are on the map rather than the peak numbers. But I would say average numbers for stage 1
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #207 on: January 29, 2016, 11:25:30 AM »

Sure are a lot of unhappy CVO owners on this forum. Glad I'm not one of them. Maybe they should look into Victory or Indian motorcycles. I hear they're pretty nice. Fast too.  :huepfenjump3:
Just wondering what you were not happy about that you felt the need to upgrade to 117?
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #208 on: January 29, 2016, 11:39:01 AM »

Actually, my numbers are pretty average for a stock 110B engine with after market exhausts. I did plenty of checking around, believe me. I'm sure some on this forum will have higher, however. I'm picking up my bike in an hour. Will post the dyno chart and ride report this afternoon.

Yeah, I thought about it after my post, those are about average numbers I guess. It's kind of sad when my 2006 95" ultra will out run my new $40,000+ bike. That will have to be fixed.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #209 on: January 29, 2016, 02:01:04 PM »

Does that mean your selling the CVO already?
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