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[cvo1717]

Road Dawg how much did you pay for that kit and dyno , work etc... something is missing, is it worth the money I don't think so. Here is my 14' cvo 110'' go figure.. i was expecting at least 130ish hp and 140ish tq kind of disappointing ...

Why do you have to be so negative I think the numbers and curve are great 100 ft around 2100 is great and it carries over the whole curve .I am sticking with the 259 in my build .I post my results next month when i am done.How much did your build cost you for lesser results?

[Road Dad]

apples to apples it is not

[dnlpnd]

Went down to the dealer today and swapped back to the 259. That curve is almost too good to believe. Usually there's a nice ramp around 3k where it wakes up but it must be that 117 is the perfect amount of air to make this cam really tame? 


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Can you remind us all again what cams you swapped from?  With 23 pages of postings, two different threads, and multiple builds going on simultaneously, it's easy to get things crossed up.

Thanks,

dnlpnd

[KC2GIW]

Can you remind us all again what cams you swapped from?  With 23 pages of postings, two different threads, and multiple builds going on simultaneously, it's easy to get things crossed up.

Thanks,

dnlpnd

585


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[HD Street Performance]

Here's the dyno chart. I'll let y'all know when the bottom end blows up. 

That is a good combo of parts and with lower compression relatively speaking, and a B motor
Others could go there if they use that pipe. Not for a bagger but there are good pipes for them too
Headwork and higher compression and it would scale up from there, horsepower, not so much the torque but 135 is certainly likely

[KC2GIW]

That is a good combo of parts and with lower compression relatively speaking.

I'm not sure anyone reasonable thought it was going to make 130s. It beat Harley's advertised numbers which are no secret. I mean they furnish an actual dyno chart, right? 

Hope these hold up because this seems like a great setup.


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[bigchuck]

I think you'll be happy with it. I certainly am.

That is what's important, you are happy. Don't let the negative people get to you. Everyone thinks they can do better for less. You have very good numbers in a damn good curve and still have more room to build if you decide to. Not saying you need to. What did the dealership say about how it effects warranty or extended plans?

[HD Street Performance]

Usually there's a nice ramp around 3k where it wakes up but it must be that 117 is the perfect amount of air to make this cam really tame? 

I'm not sure anyone reasonable thought it was going to make 130s. It beat Harley's advertised numbers which are no secret. I mean they furnish an actual dyno chart, right? 

Hope these hold up because this seems like a great setup.

YEP
It is the pipe, heads that have proper CSA for a 117" motor and adequate airflow to support 118hp but that is about the limit plus a cam without too much overlap. Seen any 110s make over 118hp with stock heads? You won't as that is the point both the heads and the throttle body check out and hp gains diminish fast regardless of the CU/IN. The torque curve shape, aggregate torque under the curve, and the peak number tell you that is a good running motor especially being a B motor and at low relative compression as I stated before.
Regardless of what the dealer says the motor warranty is now a verbal agreement between the dealer and the customer.

[Road Dad]

so I will gladly spend the money for the 117 kit to make my HD more fun to ride.  I am certainly not doing it for the "high performance dream,  If I want high HP and TQ I ride any of my other bikes that cost half of my HD but can run in circles around it.

Heck my old Hayabusa for $10K from 10 years back can outrun any (most) HD.

Looks like we'll worth the money I will spend on it. After all it's hard taking any money with you when you go in the grave.

I will be very happy if I get the same perfmance as you RoadDawg. (Well same plus 1 hp just because 

[HD Street Performance]

Use the same parts and get it properly tuned and you will
Have the crank trussed up while you are at it because the dealer will tell you to take a hike if you ask for forgiveness later.
And even if the dealer covers the crank you get the same POS as a replacement.

[Road Dad]

Not sure if you where referring the warranty for the 117 kit installation of not but HD (the mother company) gives 1 year warranty on the installed kit. Posted on their website in details

Usually there's a nice ramp around 3k where it wakes up but it must be that 117 is the perfect amount of air to make this cam really tame? 

I'm not sure anyone reasonable thought it was going to make 130s. It beat Harley's advertised numbers which are no secret. I mean they furnish an actual dyno chart, right? 

Hope these hold up because this seems like a great setup.

YEP
It is the pipe, heads that have proper CSA for a 117" motor and adequate airflow to support 118hp but that is about the limit plus a cam without too much overlap. Seen any 110s make over 118hp with stock heads? You won't as that is the point both the heads and the throttle body check out and hp gains diminish fast regardless of the CU/IN. The torque curve shape, aggregate torque under the curve, and the peak number tell you that is a good running motor especially being a B motor and at low relative compression as I stated before.
Regardless of what the dealer says the motor warranty is now a verbal agreement between the dealer and the customer.

[dnlpnd]

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Very interesting you are liking the SE-259E cam better than the SE-585, which the SE-259E is very close to the Feuling 574 I am already running.

I am really anxious to see how the GMR 600 cam & GMR headwork does on the other bolt-on 117ci kit build going on.

dnlpnd

[grofcvo]

Why do you have to be so negative I think the numbers and curve are great 100 ft around 2100 is great and it carries over the whole curve .I am sticking with the 259 in my build .I post my results next month when i am done.How much did your build cost you for lesser results?

You missed point, I don't want to spend 3-4$K to get couple hp/tq that I already have. So you saying 2hp more , and less 1tq is wort 3k more than I payed. This is so funny if those numbers are what everyone else will get or very close I will stay with my 110'' and save money for sns 124''.... waiting to see Steve's results I am sure his build will go over 140/140 or very close...

[RoadDawg]

Great torque. Can you post a sheet SAE?

SAE= Max Power 115.77 Max Torque 129.28
Not enough to notice a difference in the real world.

[RoadDawg]

Road Dawg how much did you pay for that kit and dyno , work etc... something is missing, is it worth the money I don't think so. Here is my 14' cvo 110'' go figure.. i was expecting at least 130ish hp and 140ish tq kind of disappointing ...

Well lucky you!!!!