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[BigRichRam02]

Great something else to spend money on haha.
What do you think about bumping my fat bob's 110 to the 117 but keeping my 211 cam?  According to my dyno sheet Im at 103hp and 115lb-ft running a 50mm throttle, stock cvo heads, screaming eagle heavy breather, 211 cam, D and D fatcat, and SEPST tuning. I have the same transmission internals from 2010 (Originaly a 96' bike) I daily drive hwy 60 mile round trip in texas and sometimes hit stop and go. I'm 25 and have a bad habit of picking power and cool factor over whats practical. what are your thoughts leave the bike be or go for it?

[RoadDawg]

The kit, as it comes, is great for highway and local riding. I have a dyno chart posted in this thread if you check back.

[Para Bellum]

103hp and 115lb-ft

With that slow-azz bike you have now, what are you waiting for?  J/K; it's up to you to decide if you need (want, really) more.  Can't answer the cam question.  Either way, have fun.

[hrdtail78]

This was a dealer bought 117 kit.  I replaced the lifters and perfect fits with proven lifters and SE adjustable push rods.  SE 585 cams, SE 58, Kury powercells and rush slip-ons w/ 2.25 baffles.  Cranks 210 on both.

I would suggest skipping just the clutch spring and going with an extra plate and heavy spring from Energy One or something like it.

[rockytop117]

This was a dealer bought kit.  I replaced the lifters and perfect fits with proven lifters and SE adjustable push rods.  SE 585 cams, SE 58, Kury powercells and rush slip-ons w/ 2.25 baffles.  Cranks 210 on both.

I would suggest skipping just the clutch spring and going with an extra plate and heavy spring from Energy One or something like it.

What would you think quality head work, match ported tb, HPI injectors & a good 2-1 would bring this up too?

[KC2GIW]

This was a dealer bought kit.  I replaced the lifters and perfect fits with proven lifters and SE adjustable push rods.  SE 585 cams, SE 58, Kury powercells and rush slip-ons w/ 2.25 baffles.  Cranks 210 on both.

I would suggest skipping just the clutch spring and going with an extra plate and heavy spring from Energy One or something like it.

This is a117?


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[RoadDawg]

This is a117?


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X2

[hrdtail78]

Yes, it's a 117 kit. 

[HunterJ]

Nice trq curve. I xpect it could have been a little higher with a 2-1 exhaust. Was anything done with the heads?

[hrdtail78]

They are stock heads.  I don't know if the peak tq would be better with a 2-1 but I think it would hit harder on the bottom.

[RoadDawg]

Yes, it's a 117 kit.

I'm surprised how close your numbers are to mine with the 259E cams. Nice chart!

[dnlpnd]

This was a dealer bought 117 kit.  I replaced the lifters and perfect fits with proven lifters and SE adjustable push rods.  SE 585 cams, SE 58, Kury powercells and rush slip-ons w/ 2.25 baffles.  Cranks 210 on both.

I would suggest skipping just the clutch spring and going with an extra plate and heavy spring from Energy One or something like it.

That is a very nice torque curve, but a little lower than I would have expected on power.  I am still learning on all of this, but I think higher compression would have solved the relatively low power curve.  As my engine builder says, "A low compression engine is a lazy engine."  Also, as I study about cams, I am not a fan of the SE-585.  Now, an S&S 585...then you might be talking.

I'm not trying to be negative and I greatly appreciate the info, these are just my opinions.

Thanks,

dnlpnd

[hrdtail78]

That is a very nice torque curve, but a little lower than I would have expected on power.  I am still learning on all of this, but I think higher compression would have solved the relatively low power curve.  As my engine builder says, "A low compression engine is a lazy engine."  Also, as I study about cams, I am not a fan of the SE-585.  Now, an S&S 585...then you might be talking.

I'm not trying to be negative and I greatly appreciated the info, these are just my opinions,

Thanks,

dnlpnd

Not going to offend me.  Customer bought the kit and brought it to me.  I had him take back the SE tuner because he already had the same tuner locked to his bike.  I had him return the lifters and pushrods.  He originally had the 259e and after a quick conversation about his riding style I suggested he trade the cam for the SE 585.  Not my cam of choice and this is the first I have tuned, but of the 2 cams that were the option.  This one suites him better.  This is based on comparing the 585 to the 555tqster and the TW57.  As for as the top end HP.  What is the limit of stock CVO heads, what's the limit of the 585 cam, and what about the limit of the stock ventilator AC for the SE58?  I think that AC would be much better if they would of designed it to suck air from the front of it also.

[KC2GIW]

After seeing roaddawgs curve below 3000, I decided to stick with the 259. Interesting how different they are.


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[hrdtail78]

After seeing roaddawgs curve below 3000, I decided to stick with the 259. Interesting how different they are.


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It will be interesting to see the 259 with a 2-1-2.