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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #615 on: March 10, 2016, 08:36:33 AM »


Yep it's all the exhaust but not gonna change it sounds and looks to good

You did heads as well?


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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #616 on: March 10, 2016, 08:38:05 AM »

No I did not I'm not sure why that's on the Dyno sheet
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #617 on: March 16, 2016, 11:05:59 AM »

Just got my bike back.  I did the Harley 117 kit, used the SE585 cams, changed the intake to the SE Billet Air Cleaner and D&D 2-1 Boarzilla pipes.  It came back with 113.89 HP and 126.68 Torque.  Dyno Sheet is attached.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #618 on: March 16, 2016, 11:15:55 AM »


Just got my bike back.  I did the Harley 117 kit, used the SE585 cams, changed the intake to the SE Billet Air Cleaner and D&D 2-1 Boarzilla pipes.  It came back with 113.89 HP and 126.68 Torque.  Dyno Sheet is attached.
Is that the full kit with tb as well or just the jugs and Pistons.

Looks like it should be a good running bike.

Almost wonder if that borzilla is still a little too big for these mild builds.


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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #619 on: March 16, 2016, 11:34:57 AM »

Good numbers. Very similar to mine, including the curves.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #620 on: March 16, 2016, 02:26:08 PM »

that was the full kit, TB and Injectors.  I had the Boarzilla on mine as a 110 for a few months and put a couple of thousand miles on it with no issues.  D&D says that the Boarzilla is good for 117 and up.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #621 on: March 16, 2016, 02:52:04 PM »

that was the full kit, TB and Injectors.  I had the Boarzilla on mine as a 110 for a few months and put a couple of thousand miles on it with no issues.  D&D says that the Boarzilla is good for 117 and up.

Easy way to validate that is put and hold a large screw driver head in the muffler while making a couple of pulls and see if the numbers come up with the screw driver in there.   Some use a piece of wood as well to block off a percentage of the muffler.   

Lower compression builds/combos might see a bit of loss on the low end due to backpressure.   Have to test it to be sure if that is the pipe and what is tolerable or not.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #622 on: March 16, 2016, 03:50:48 PM »

The zilla baffle is a 2.5 core size and is perforated, SO its does not do as good of a job compared to a louvered baffle design. Not uncommon to see a little dip or slower tq build on some engine combos .. In my opinion this is where the Rush 2-1 pipe really shines. Baffles are 49 dollars or so and it's a easy swap ( they are spiral louvered btw)  Many times I have found that the 2.25 baffle in the pipe is a very nice balance of both tq and hp . And swapping to the larger 2.5 baffle many times may yield 1-3 more HP however the tq curve will suffer slightly..

Stating a pipe is for X is a very broad brush stroke again in my opinion.. In the end only testing can prove that one works better than the next in A given combination.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #623 on: March 19, 2016, 04:48:47 PM »

Well here we are.

I have a few disclaimers here:

1) I have not been notified my bike is done yet
2) the tech working on it is not in on Saturdays
3) I have not been officially told anything yet.

So I poked around the service department today and stumbled upon a laminated dyno sheet with my name on it. I'm not sure if this is baseline or final- I guess it could be either. There was just this one laying in the counter.

So it looks like my suspicions were correct in that the V&H oversize 450s are in fact oversize but I knew that going in. I'm also correct in that they look and sound friggin sweet.

I may grab some 2 or 2.25 baffles for my stock mufflers and try them one day. Not sure yet.

Also he did say that he would dyno it with the stock and larger filter on it. Not sure what happened there. I'm sure I'll hear more this week.

I think they're still waiting for the cover I had modified and re coated to come back in.

Read em and weap. I'm sure this isn't the end of things with this build. Heads next year with knee squeeze for sure! 








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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #624 on: March 19, 2016, 05:10:53 PM »

Cannot read the sheet very well looks like its a STD as well.. Can you post the numbers  looks like 118 125 ??   and what cam
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #625 on: March 19, 2016, 05:24:32 PM »


Cannot read the sheet very well looks like its a STD as well.. Can you post the numbers  looks like 118 125 ??   and what cam

Yes to all this. Again I still have more questions than answers. All their graphs they show off are using SAE CF so no idea yet. I'll have more info next week. Here's an enhanced view.




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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #626 on: March 19, 2016, 05:25:09 PM »

Also not sure why it's called Tune2_warmup??


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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #627 on: March 19, 2016, 06:31:42 PM »

Also not sure why it's called Tune2_warmup??


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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #628 on: March 19, 2016, 06:52:44 PM »

He may not have the final tune done yet.

Might be so.  But the thought occurred to me, "why bother to laminate a work in progress?"
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #629 on: March 19, 2016, 07:14:13 PM »


Might be so.  But the thought occurred to me, "why bother to laminate a work in progress?"

Unless it s a base vs custom tune comparison in the works.

All thoughts I've already had.


I'll know more during the workweek.


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