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[2smoke]

Just check on the HD website for compatible years.

Not always accurate and not always comprehensive.  I could possibly understand the FBW reason.  My 2010 is the old fashioned throttle cable.

[MrSurly]

My 2010 is the old fashioned throttle cable.

Really? The touring models all went TBW in '08. I wasn't aware of the Softails transition, but had assumed erroneously they were at the same time.

[Para Bellum]

I know this is from left field, but could it be a frame issue?  The '07 and '08 110s (touring) are in the old frame.  Was there a frame change in the Convertible in '11 that could cause the '10 not to work?

[Rooster]

Could it be the top motor mount difference? Seems that is different than my 07

[ImBroke]

It's not the frame or top motor mount. Like I mentioned a few posts back its the throttle body. This kit comes with a few 58mm and the  "entire" kit will only work on fbw bikes. You could not use the tb and the rest of the kit will fit any 110 bike

[Burningcoals]

I probably don't deserve to be posting in here, since I don't own a real CVO. But its hard to find Dyno info on the 117 Kit for a 110 period. I read almost the entire thread. Good info!

I just purchased a 2016 Low Rider S with 110, dealer says exact CVO motor without the balancer, has different part numbers due to color changes on a few parts like heads. Otherwise same. I really needed info on the 259E cam and if I was going to keep my 255. I am in the 60 day 2 year warranty window, and want to retain warranty so I am just doing the kit by the book. Although I am very impressed already with some of the numbers and know I will be happy with the kit. Will I make some more TQ due to not having a balancer who knows? Should be interesting comparing numbers from A motor to B motor.

I will share my dyno. I am 3 weeks out from wrapping everything up, all parts ordered.

- SE Heavy breather
- SPFabrication, Stepped 2-1 Highpipe exhaust. (I need to scrape peg not exhaust)
- Power Vision. dyno break in and custom tune.

I am doing extra stuff during the time my bike is in shop, like powdercoating wheels vivid black.

Should I do a .30 head gasket, or what is the recommendation for headgasket? I wish that SE would make a 10.5:1 piston or higher that would work with the kit. Aftermarket is only option?

2016 Harley Davidson Dyna Low Rider S by Shaun.images, on Flickr

[RoadDawg]

Others can tell you more, but the rubber mounted engines generally produce more power than B engines. Also, I'd go with the 259E cam over the 255 for sure.

[9sec240]

Congrats on the purchase.  I took a look at the Lowrider S at the dealership when they got one in.  I bet it rips with the low weight.  With the 117 kit it would really move out.  I did my 117 kit within the 60 days also to retain the warranty.

I would put the kit in as it comes with the 259E cam.  The camshaft is likely your biggest gain in power.  Without that, torque will peak early and plummet like stock.  It is crazy how much the motor wants to rev with the 259E now.  It begs to be spun up.  It is the best of both worlds... more torque down low and WAY more torque up top.

I opted for the Cometic .030 head gasket.  It is a very slight bump in compression (about .1 point) so the motor is roughly 10:1.  I have no idea if it helped or hurt.  The supplied head gaskets will result in CR of 9.9:1.  I'd say it is a coin flip.

Good luck with your build.  Looking forward to seeing your results.

It is funny that you are considering powder coating your wheels black.  I was considering coating my wheels bronze... LOL

[Para Bellum]

It's not the frame or top motor mount. Like I mentioned a few posts back its the throttle body. This kit comes with a few 58mm and the  "entire" kit will only work on fbw bikes. You could not use the tb and the rest of the kit will fit any 110 bike

The '08 and newer touring bikes are TBW, so it's not the presence or absence of that.

Edited to add "touring," which I forgot the 1st time around.

[Para Bellum]

I am doing extra stuff during the time my bike is in shop, like powdercoating wheels vivid black.

It is funny that you are considering powder coating your wheels black.  I was considering coating my wheels bronze... LOL

Sounds like a swap!

[Burningcoals]

That's incorrect.  Your engine is the "110B" version, which means Balancer.  The extra weight of the balancer reduces the output of the engine.  Only the Touring bikes get the "A" version (no balancer), which is rubber mounted.

Incorrect. The Softail S and Fatboy S have the 110B, which produces according to Harley 109 lb-ft tq

The new Dyna is the 110A model, without a balancer, and according to Harley produces 116 lb-ft tq. I have owned Dyna's and never seen that frame with B motor. It doesn't really go with those style bikes. Gotta step up to a Softail or a cruiser for that.

This information is on Harleys website.

[Burningcoals]

Sounds like a swap!

I would love to do that. !! His wheels are awesome! But I can't imagine skinny wheels on a breakout! Since my wheel will not legally support his size.

[Burningcoals]

Congrats on the purchase.  I took a look at the Lowrider S at the dealership when they got one in.  I bet it rips with the low weight.  With the 117 kit it would really move out.  I did my 117 kit within the 60 days also to retain the warranty.

I would put the kit in as it comes with the 259E cam.  The camshaft is likely your biggest gain in power.  Without that, torque will peak early and plummet like stock.  It is crazy how much the motor wants to rev with the 259E now.  It begs to be spun up.  It is the best of both worlds... more torque down low and WAY more torque up top.

I opted for the Cometic .030 head gasket.  It is a very slight bump in compression (about .1 point) so the motor is roughly 10:1.  I have no idea if it helped or hurt.  The supplied head gaskets will result in CR of 9.9:1.  I'd say it is a coin flip.

Good luck with your build.  Looking forward to seeing your results.

It is funny that you are considering powder coating your wheels black.  I was considering coating my wheels bronze... LOL

Thanks! It already moves faster then stage 1 custom tuned 103" Street Bob.

I'm loving it so far! Can't wait for all the mods and 117 kit to be completed!

I think doing the .30 HG would be good, can't really hurt.

Also your bike is Awesome!! I love the new 2016 CVO Breakout! Those pipes are amazing looking, wheels, everything! I canyon carve and do prefer the skinny wheels. But I would love to have a Breakout someday! CVO of course!

[HunterJ]

Incorrect. The Softail S and Fatboy S have the 110B, which produces according to Harley 109 lb-ft tq

The new Dyna is the 110A model, without a balancer, and according to Harley produces 116 lb-ft tq. I have owned Dyna's and never seen that frame with B motor. It doesn't really go with those style bikes. Gotta step up to a Softail or a cruiser for that.

This information is on Harleys website.

I'm pretty sure that all softails are the B engines and all other outside of sportsters are A engines. Dynas  and touring.

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[Burningcoals]

I'm pretty sure that all softails are the B engines and all other outside of sportsters are A engines. Dynas  and touring.

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Ah yes. You are correct. I always assumed the cruisers would have balancers. Guess not.