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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1020 on: July 11, 2016, 11:56:52 AM »

Thanks. Wood's 999 cams are showing wild results. I know the dyno tests were done under optimum conditions with many runs, but the results are fantastic.

The GMR600 looks like a favorite around these parts too, though.  I think if I was to swap, that may be where I looked.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1021 on: July 11, 2016, 09:26:05 PM »

There is a post in this thread, with a dyno sheet for a woods TW-9B-6 cam.  Very good looking dyno sheet.  141.39 HP and 145.06 Torque.  Running heads done by Don at HD Street performance. 
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1022 on: July 13, 2016, 05:01:11 AM »

Finally had my 117Kit installed

I am used to sportbikes, so having something with this much TQ is awesome to me. This bike is insane!

117 street kit, SEST, and SPF 2-1 stepped exhaust. .030 CHG
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1023 on: July 13, 2016, 08:09:00 AM »

Those numbers look to be right on par with what everyone else (me included) is seeing.  I was 118/127 or something like that I don't remember .... it's like 40 pages back.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1024 on: July 13, 2016, 08:39:44 AM »

Those numbers look to be right on par with what everyone else (me included) is seeing.  I was 118/127 or something like that I don't remember .... it's like 40 pages back.

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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1025 on: July 15, 2016, 11:19:11 PM »

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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1026 on: July 15, 2016, 11:22:20 PM »

SPF 2-1 as well, badass pipe!
115/123

Nice consistent numbers on the board.
This bike rips!
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1027 on: July 16, 2016, 02:54:28 PM »

Has anybody swapped in 266E cams in place of the 259E cams that come with the 117" kit?

I was just at my local dealer and saw the final dyno chart for numbers with the 266E and the drop-in 117 with no other changes.

SAE 127hp and 129tq, and the rev limit set at 6400rpm.  Horsepower was virtually flat at 125+ from 5200-6400rpm.

I'd sure like to see what 10.6:1 domed pistons and headwork would do with the 266E cams.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1028 on: July 16, 2016, 04:00:44 PM »

Me too!
But that cam likes a full point more compression than that and then has acceptable low end torque, otherwise a little soft down low.
That's a good cam for motors of this size and scales right up with the proper head work.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1029 on: July 16, 2016, 04:59:19 PM »

Me too!
But that cam likes a full point more compression than that and then has acceptable low end torque, otherwise a little soft down low.
That's a good cam for motors of this size and scales right up with the proper head work.

Are you saying it needs one full point more compression than the 117's 9.9:1?  Or one full point more than the 10.6:1 from domed pistons being added to the 117?
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1030 on: July 16, 2016, 06:12:43 PM »

Are you saying it needs one full point more compression than the 117's 9.9:1?  Or one full point more than the 10.6:1 from domed pistons being added to the 117?
The SE266 has a 58 degree intake close. Head work and 11.6 to 12 static compression would work. Would end up with 200 to 205 cranking compression that would run fine on 92/93 octane pump gas.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1031 on: July 16, 2016, 08:44:56 PM »

Are you saying it needs one full point more compression than the 117's 9.9:1?  Or one full point more than the 10.6:1 from domed pistons being added to the 117?

Yes, as Joe said, 11.6:1 even as high as 12:1
I have done it and made 149hp SAE with a 120R using the same cam @12:1, hand ported CVO 110 heads. Cranks less than the stock CVO 110 motorcycle.

A cam like Woods 9B, Tman 662-1 or 662-2 with compression adjusted for intake close will make more aggregate torque (what you feel seat of pants) but the 266E will be the HP leader by a small margin all else equal. Pipe comes into play shaping the curve.

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You have only scratched the surface. That curve has all the looks of a jacked up tune and or blowing through the clutch. The lines should be smoother.
You like it now, get it fixed and it will be better. No offence intended just constructive.. trying to help.
The graph, are those corrected numbers? No indication on the graph so they are not likely corrected. Could lower or raise the numbers overall.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1032 on: July 16, 2016, 08:46:58 PM »

The SE266 has a 58 degree intake close. Head work and 11.6 to 12 static compression would work. Would end up with 200 to 205 cranking compression that would run fine on 92/93 octane pump gas.

I think I'm gonna do one and find out.  (Though I really get nervous beyond 11.0:1 in these Twin Cams.)  This combo should give 135-140 square hp/tq.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1033 on: July 16, 2016, 08:48:47 PM »

Yes, as Joe said, 11.6:1 even as high as 12:1
I have done it and made 149hp SAE with a 120R using the same cam @12:1, hand ported CVO 110 heads. Cranks less than the stock CVO 110 motorcycle.

A cam like Woods 9B, Tman 662-1 or 662-2 with compression adjusted for intake close will make more aggregate torque (what you feel seat of pants) but the 266E will be the HP leader by a small margin all else equal. Pipe comes into play shaping the curve.

I'm gonna have to do one and see what it pulls and how it runs on 92-93 octane on hot days.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1034 on: July 16, 2016, 08:54:43 PM »

Chad right?
Don't let the number mess with you that late intake close will allow the compression to work.
Good luck with it, let us know the result.
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