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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1050 on: July 20, 2016, 01:30:36 PM »

So is the consensus that the 259 is a quieter cam?

I'm not much on the valve train noise I already have.
There are workable substitutes for the 9b that run quietly.  They don't make the same power and torque however. The 9b is a little better IME.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1051 on: July 20, 2016, 08:11:29 PM »

With all I had heard about the noise of the woods cams over the years I was expecting really loud.  It is noisy but nothing like I was expecting.  Its really not to bad.  With the agitator air cleaner, the intake flutter is pretty noticeable at idle.

As for the upgraded clutch, this is the one AIM makes for the slip and assist clutch.  Its the highest rated one for this model clutch, good for 155 torque.  I'm sure that is at the crank not rear wheel.  So it may or may not hold, we will see soon when it gets tuned.  Feel is not bad at all.  A little heavier pull than stock but not bad.
I feel the same way not too bad was expecting louder .I am running the tw8 woods
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1052 on: July 21, 2016, 07:53:01 AM »

There are workable substitutes for the 9b that run quietly.  They don't make the same power and torque however. The 9b is a little better IME.

Can you explain the difference in expected hp and tq between the Wood 9B-6 cam and the Wood 999-6?
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1053 on: July 21, 2016, 06:24:45 PM »

Can you explain the difference in expected hp and tq between the Wood 9B-6 cam and the Wood 999-6?
I haven't seen any posts for anyone that has used 999-6 but the 9B-6 made 141/145 SAE in my 117.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1054 on: July 21, 2016, 06:41:13 PM »

If I recall you used CP dome pistons @11.4 static to get those numbers. The 9B-6 likes a bit of a compression increase to reach it's full potential.
Great #s by the way. Has to be a fun ride. How is the clutch holding up?
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1055 on: July 21, 2016, 07:53:50 PM »



If I recall you used CP dome pistons @11.4 static to get those numbers. The 9B-6 likes a bit of a compression increase to reach it's full potential.
Great #s by the way. Has to be a fun ride. How is the clutch holding up?

Yes, definitely fun to ride. I put the AIM 480lb diaphragm spring in it with the SE clutch pack. Works great now but it's a bit of a workout in stop and go traffic.

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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1056 on: July 22, 2016, 05:18:31 PM »


Yes, definitely fun to ride. I put the AIM 480lb diaphragm spring in it with the SE clutch pack. Works great now but it's a bit of a workout in stop and go traffic.

Can you link to the post/s with your build details?  I read the entire thread and don't recall where it is if it's in here.

Is there a dyno chart posted?  141/145 are great numbers.

What did you do to the bottom end?  (I'm presuming it began with the SE 117" kit, but with substituted parts.)
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1057 on: July 22, 2016, 05:24:15 PM »

Can you link to the post/s with your build details?  I read the entire thread and don't recall where it is if it's in here.

Is there a dyno chart posted?  141/145 are great numbers.

What did you do to the bottom end?  (I'm presuming it began with the SE 117" kit, but with substituted parts.)

Here is a link to the post in this thread.
http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=105913.msg1390161.msg#1390161

I haven't done anything to the bottom end.

I didn't use the kit. Just purchased the cylinders.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1058 on: July 23, 2016, 09:27:21 AM »

Any recommendations on a good dealer in Texas to install this kit.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1059 on: July 23, 2016, 11:14:31 AM »

Any recommendations on a good dealer in Texas to install this kit.





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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1060 on: July 23, 2016, 11:24:17 AM »

Here is a link to the post in this thread.
http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=105913.msg1390161.msg#1390161

I haven't done anything to the bottom end.

I didn't use the kit. Just purchased the cylinders.

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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1061 on: July 23, 2016, 10:02:18 PM »





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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1062 on: July 28, 2016, 03:11:01 PM »

I am switching from the Screaming eagle super tuner to my power vision for my 117 kit. Looks like my numbers were solid 118/127 SAE after all.

I have some questions. Dynojet sent me a base map that defaults to MAP instead of TPS based. Can someone with experience with tuning these 117 kits let me know which they prefer?, Dynojet recommends pressure based, but Harley tuned it via TPS based. Dynojet said 2014 + they recommend pressure based tunes. My tuner was skeptical.

The Dynojet base tune for the 117 needs a lot of work too.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1063 on: July 29, 2016, 08:47:54 AM »

 


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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1064 on: August 03, 2016, 07:56:01 AM »

Here is the dyno sheet from my 117 Build.

117 HD cylinders
CP pistons, 10cc dome
Heads done by HD Street Performance
HPI 55 throttle body
5.2 injectors
AV & V 650 lift Beehive springs
Woods Alpha series lifters
Woods TW-9B-6 cam
Fullsac DX head pipe and 2.25 baffles.

Runs great.  A little lower than Joe's mainly due to the Heavy breather he is running.  It will not work with lowers with speakers on my bike.  Still very fun ride and a great flat torque curve.
AIM VDR clutch and heaviest springs
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