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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1065 on: August 03, 2016, 08:17:10 AM »

Here is the dyno sheet from my 117 Build.

117 HD cylinders
CP pistons, 10cc dome
Heads done by HD Street Performance
HPI 55 throttle body
5.2 injectors
AV & V 650 lift Beehive springs
Woods Alpha series lifters
Woods TW-9B-6 cam
Fullsac DX head pipe and 2.25 baffles.

Runs great.  A little lower than Joe's mainly due to the Heavy breather he is running.  It will not work with lowers with speakers on my bike.  Still very fun ride and a great flat torque curve.
AIM VDR clutch and heaviest springs
Turned out great David. Enjoy the ride.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1066 on: August 03, 2016, 08:28:49 AM »

Very nice!


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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1067 on: August 03, 2016, 11:28:27 AM »

Here is the dyno sheet from my 117 Build.

117 HD cylinders
CP pistons, 10cc dome
Heads done by HD Street Performance
HPI 55 throttle body
5.2 injectors
AV & V 650 lift Beehive springs
Woods Alpha series lifters
Woods TW-9B-6 cam
Fullsac DX head pipe and 2.25 baffles.

Runs great.  A little lower than Joe's mainly due to the Heavy breather he is running.  It will not work with lowers with speakers on my bike.  Still very fun ride and a great flat torque curve.
AIM VDR clutch and heaviest springs

That looks like a monstah.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1068 on: August 03, 2016, 12:54:33 PM »

Here is the dyno sheet from my 117 Build.

117 HD cylinders
CP pistons, 10cc dome
Heads done by HD Street Performance
HPI 55 throttle body
5.2 injectors
AV & V 650 lift Beehive springs
Woods Alpha series lifters
Woods TW-9B-6 cam
Fullsac DX head pipe and 2.25 baffles.

Runs great.  A little lower than Joe's mainly due to the Heavy breather he is running.  It will not work with lowers with speakers on my bike.  Still very fun ride and a great flat torque curve.
AIM VDR clutch and heaviest springs
Real nice. From the looks of that curve, you won't be needing Doc to tweak that tune at all.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1069 on: August 03, 2016, 01:24:10 PM »

Here is the dyno sheet from my 117 Build.

117 HD cylinders
CP pistons, 10cc dome
Heads done by HD Street Performance
HPI 55 throttle body
5.2 injectors
AV & V 650 lift Beehive springs
Woods Alpha series lifters
Woods TW-9B-6 cam
Fullsac DX head pipe and 2.25 baffles.

Runs great.  A little lower than Joe's mainly due to the Heavy breather he is running.  It will not work with lowers with speakers on my bike.  Still very fun ride and a great flat torque curve.
AIM VDR clutch and heaviest springs

Very, very nice!!
Did you do anything with the clutch?
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1070 on: August 03, 2016, 03:11:23 PM »

Very, very nice!!
Did you do anything with the clutch?

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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1071 on: August 04, 2016, 03:02:07 PM »

Here is the dyno sheet from my 117 Build.

117 HD cylinders
CP pistons, 10cc dome
Heads done by HD Street Performance
HPI 55 throttle body
5.2 injectors
AV & V 650 lift Beehive springs
Woods Alpha series lifters
Woods TW-9B-6 cam
Fullsac DX head pipe and 2.25 baffles.

Runs great.  A little lower than Joe's mainly due to the Heavy breather he is running.  It will not work with lowers with speakers on my bike.  Still very fun ride and a great flat torque curve.
AIM VDR clutch and heaviest springs

Dave,

Have you had a chance to twist that thing yet with your buddy that has the other 117 or that other guy that lives near you with the 117 that has that breakout?    If so, notice any differences in acceleration, mid or top on how they compare?   Any clutch concerns thus far or in putting the coals to it?
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1072 on: August 04, 2016, 03:10:16 PM »

Yea I'd love to see how they compare to mine with the different cam, head & piston combos....
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1073 on: August 04, 2016, 09:59:35 PM »

Turned out great David. Enjoy the ride.

Nice job Dave.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1074 on: August 04, 2016, 10:19:58 PM »

Dave,

Have you had a chance to twist that thing yet with your buddy that has the other 117 or that other guy that lives near you with the 117 that has that breakout?    If so, notice any differences in acceleration, mid or top on how they compare?   Any clutch concerns thus far or in putting the coals to it?
We haven't had a chance to do a good side by side roll on yet.

As far as the clutch goes. Mine showed a lot of slippage on the dyno up to 4000 until the centrifugal assist kicked in. I put the AIM 480 diaphragm spring and SE clutch pack in mine. Don't feel any slippage at all but haven't confirmed on the dyno.

I believe David has the slipper clutch in his. Maybe he can chime in on how it feels.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1075 on: August 04, 2016, 10:32:40 PM »

Thanks Joe,

I am looking at the CF2 with that same 480 spring.   Curious how the pull is with it and the hydraulic clutch.  I have the 400 spring, but others have said the 480 is noticeably stiffer.   Any intentions of putting it back on the dyno to see a before and after comparison?

Real interested in the difference of cams and build to see how the 2 of your bikes compare.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1076 on: August 05, 2016, 08:16:29 AM »

Dave,

Have you had a chance to twist that thing yet with your buddy that has the other 117 or that other guy that lives near you with the 117 that has that breakout?    If so, notice any differences in acceleration, mid or top on how they compare?   Any clutch concerns thus far or in putting the coals to it?

Joe and I have not had a chance to really twist it together yet.

Mine is a 13 so it has the Assist & Slip Clutch.  Not a lot of option for it except AIM or replace clutch.  I went with the VP-SDR Performance Kit for the A & S clutch.  https://aimcorp.myshopify.com/collections/vp-sdr-for-cvo-new-clutch/products/vp-sdr-performance-kit-for-a-s-clutch-3-studs-style  It did not appear to be slipping on the dyno.  Seems to work well and only a little stiffer than stock.  Not near as stiff to pull in as Joes.  So far the clutch has handed everything just fine.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1077 on: August 05, 2016, 12:21:09 PM »



Thanks Joe,

I am looking at the CF2 with that same 480 spring.   Curious how the pull is with it and the hydraulic clutch.  I have the 400 spring, but others have said the 480 is noticeably stiffer.   Any intentions of putting it back on the dyno to see a before and after comparison?

Real interested in the difference of cams and build to see how the 2 of your bikes compare.

Haven't been caught in any bad stop and go traffic yet. The 480 is definitely stiffer but not too bad holding it in at a traffic light.

No plans to get it back on the dyno at this time. It feels pretty good so not concerned at this point.

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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1078 on: August 05, 2016, 05:31:53 PM »

I have some questions for the high compression guys.  11 or higher. Do you have to disable the knock sensors to keep the bike happy?

I've heard that this might be required. Heck my 117 was pulling the max of 6deg of timing when I was with SEST tune from Harley. They were trying to run 30deg of timing in front cyl.

I already see knock with .30 head gaskets on my 117 on 92oct.

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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1079 on: August 05, 2016, 06:44:24 PM »



I have some questions for the high compression guys.  11 or higher. Do you have to disable the knock sensors to keep the bike happy?

I've heard that this might be required. Heck my 117 was pulling the max of 6deg of timing when I was with SEST tune from Harley. They were trying to run 30deg of timing in front cyl.

I already see knock with .30 head gaskets on my 117 on 92oct.

I have 11.4 static on my 117 and I can run 93/92 octane with no issues.

Knock sensors are enabled on my setup.

Cam choice plays a big part in calculating the actual compression ratio.

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