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[manllyy]

I got plan to upgrade my breakout with 117 cu inches kit
Mine is 110 cu right now , had only 500 miles on. I can take 110 cu out for sale
May any one give me idea ?


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[Para Bellum]

I got plan to upgrade my breakout with 117 cu inches kit
Mine is 110 cu right now , had only 500 miles on. I can take 110 cu out for sale
May any one give me idea ?

Yes, you can upgrade to the 117" kit and sell the 255 cam, 110 cylinders and pistons to get some money back.

[GRam]

So had the 117 tuned about 10 days ago, immediately left on an epic trip with my brother. Ran the Oregon coastline (spots were fabulous, most was "meh". Traffic was main downfall).
From the through the Redwood Forest, down through Redding Ca (holy heat wave Batman), Sacramento, and wandered back home through central Oregon (Eugene, Medford, Bend etc) and Washington, finally home after 4,770 km.
Bike ran like a champ. Even loaded down for touring, in temps above 115*F, not one "ping" of detonation to be heard. Pulled strong from about 2700 rpm and up. Enjoyable to ride by all measures.

Only pause for celebration comes from the dyno sheet. The torque is pretty much bang on what I thought it would achieve. It's the horsepower that seems low to me. I expected low - mid 120's. Bike runs like the graph shows, nice pull from the torque down low, strong mid, then falls off. Tuner thought my exhaust might be hindering it somewhat..?? I'm thinking it's a combo platter of the exhaust and heads.

Details of build :
HD 117 kit ( jugs, pistons, 58 tb and 5.3 injectors)
HD MVA heads, decked 50 thou to get compression back. Have yet to check CCP, I have a "cheap" gauge, want to borrow/buy a Snap On for most accurate results.
TMan 625 cams
Perf. Machine AC
TTS tuner
V&H Power Duals with HO slip on's

[Scott7d]

I wasn't satisfied with my HO slip ons. However it was the lousy low end I didn't like. Peak HP wasn't a problem. In general looks like you've got a great running bike, but seems a tad anemic for the extra stuff you've had done. Did your tuner have a solid reputation? I would think you'd also be cranking out 120+ HP.

[GRam]

Yup he's tuned my bikes before, in fact the trip I just took with my brother he did as well. 45,000 km later and she still purrs like a kitten. As I mentioned,
bike runs great. Just seems low in the HP department 

[fastfreddy]

Yup he's tuned my bikes before, in fact the trip I just took with my brother he did as well. 45,000 km later and she still purrs like a kitten. As I mentioned,
bike runs great. Just seems low in the HP department 

sum n amiss there, mine is still at 110ci  and been a the drum a few times w625 cam and always square with hp & tq....

[GRam]

Yup, I see how yours keeps pulling on the big end, and mine has always laid down around 5000,
whether with the setup now, or when it was a 100...

[FlaHeatWave]

So had the 117 tuned about 10 days ago, immediately left on an epic trip with my brother. Ran the Oregon coastline (spots were fabulous, most was "meh". Traffic was main downfall).
From the through the Redwood Forest, down through Redding Ca (holy heat wave Batman), Sacramento, and wandered back home through central Oregon (Eugene, Medford, Bend etc) and Washington, finally home after 4,770 km.
Bike ran like a champ. Even loaded down for touring, in temps above 115*F, not one "ping" of detonation to be heard. Pulled strong from about 2700 rpm and up. Enjoyable to ride by all measures.

Only pause for celebration comes from the dyno sheet. The torque is pretty much bang on what I thought it would achieve. It's the horsepower that seems low to me. I expected low - mid 120's. Bike runs like the graph shows, nice pull from the torque down low, strong mid, then falls off. Tuner thought my exhaust might be hindering it somewhat..?? I'm thinking it's a combo platter of the exhaust and heads.

Details of build :
HD 117 kit ( jugs, pistons, 58 tb and 5.3 injectors)
HD MVA heads, decked 50 thou to get compression back. Have yet to check CCP, I have a "cheap" gauge, want to borrow/buy a Snap On for most accurate results.
TMan 625 cams
Perf. Machine AC
TTS tuner
V&H Power Duals with HO slip on's

Yea, that OR coast is a nice ride...

'Thinking the HOs are not doing you any favors...and there might be something else off... maybe run a leakdown?? I'm CCP in the low 190s, my curves are very different, carrying 120+ftlbs 2200-5200 and hp I'm right with, slowly pulling 124HCs on top, pulling hard to 5900...

Differences are T-Man CVO Street Performer Heads, Ventilator, RSD Slip-ons (1.75 baffels)

What kind of fuel mileage are you getting ?? Oil consumption??

[yobtaf103]

sum n amiss there, mine is still at 110ci  and been a the drum a few times w625 cam and always square with hp & tq....

Yup same as Fastfreddy here 123hp/121tq 110 bolt -on w625 10.6 comp 4.9 inj cable se58tb 103 heads worked over.
Fatboy/ supermeg/ Powervision

[GRam]

Yea, that OR coast is a nice ride...

'Thinking the HOs are not doing you any favors...and there might be something else off... maybe run a leakdown?? I'm CCP in the low 190s, my curves are very different, carrying 120+ftlbs 2200-5200 and hp I'm right with, slowly pulling 124HCs on top, pulling hard to 5900...

Differences are T-Man CVO Street Performer Heads, Ventilator, RSD Slip-ons (1.75 baffels)

What kind of fuel mileage are you getting ?? Oil consumption??

Parts of the coast sure are fantastic!! Rest of it, trees and houses blocking the view. And oh my Lord the traffic. And weather, holy crap 40-45*, blowing a marine layer in with a 25 mph wind… Ugh.  Then go a mile inland and prepare to roast like a pig on a spit!!
Yes, leak down and CCP test in my future. Really think most of the pieces are in place to have a strong runner (well stronger than it's currently showing, it DID get better for sure). Something's off, when everyone else basically running similar stuff gets these cams to run off the big end, and mine is limping to the finish line...

[Unbalanced]

Parts of the coast sure are fantastic!! Rest of it, trees and houses blocking the view. And oh my Lord the traffic. And weather, holy crap 40-45*, blowing a marine layer in with a 25 mph wind… Ugh.  Then go a mile inland and prepare to roast like a pig on a spit!!
Yes, leak down and CCP test in my future. Really think most of the pieces are in place to have a strong runner (well stronger than it's currently showing, it DID get better for sure). Something's off, when everyone else basically running similar stuff gets these cams to run off the big end, and mine is limping to the finish line...

Maybe try the dyno their using to compare apples to apples.   Some read different for the good or the bad depending on how you look at it.

Real test is to run another with higher numbers and see how you fair.   Many times I have destroyed another bike rolling em with better numbers than I had.

I would still do a compression test and leak down.   Decking the heads as much as you have .050 is a good chunk.   Chambers I am guessing around 85-86 cc??

[110tHunDer]

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Real test is to run another with higher numbers and see how you fair.   Many times I have destroyed another bike rolling em with better numbers than I had.

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A lot of people just plain don't know how to ride.  When you bring in the rider variable, just throw the dyno sheets in the chit can.  A lot of times the faster rider will have a HP/TQ disadvantage that he more than makes up for with skill, technique and balls.

[Unbalanced]

A lot of people just plain don't know how to ride.  When you bring in the rider variable, just throw the dyno sheets in the chit can.  A lot of times the faster rider will have a HP/TQ disadvantage that he more than makes up for with skill, technique and balls.

Rather take a shot at real world than a dyno sheet which in many cases is good for nothing more than arm chair racing and as a comparison of the same bike before and after work has been done.   

[FlaHeatWave]

I look at the curves more than the #s...

[OBB]

I look at the curves more than the #s...

Exactly. A set of 34's can look at good as a set of 38's depending on the background.