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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1335 on: March 24, 2017, 10:21:58 AM »

I've got mine

Got mine! 121 HP/136TQ SAE 4th Gear pull.....Damn near better than good sex!..
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1336 on: March 24, 2017, 12:13:34 PM »

Got mine! 121 HP/136TQ SAE 4th Gear pull.....Damn near better than good sex!..
I would'nt go that far ;)
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1337 on: March 24, 2017, 02:05:54 PM »

I would'nt go that far ;)

Yea, Key words are " Damn Near" .lol
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1338 on: March 24, 2017, 04:36:22 PM »

Yea, Key words are " Damn Near" .lol

And both added together is....  :drummer:
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1339 on: April 02, 2017, 11:34:37 PM »

Finally bike is together and tuned.....yea I know it has taken forever....lol. Actually dug through some recipes and John done the heads a year ago.

Just to fill in the blanks. 117 drop in with the flat top pistons, Sachs heads cut to 93 cc, 24D cam, V&H X pipe, Crusher Mellows, 195 ccp

Object was to build a strong low end with least amount of compression as possible. We ride the backroads of NE Oklahoma and NW Arkansas a lot and to need fuel and only be able to find 89 octane was a concern. So wanted an end result that would survive in those conditions. Thinking we got there.

I have to thank John Sachs for all the help he has given me. Actually thanks doesn't even come close to covering what John done. I built the motor at home and this was my first trip into the Harley motor and he was one the end of the phone every time there was questions or confusion in my mind. Hell of a man that has a passion for what he does. Thank you John.

And for the others that have went out of there way to help...
Harry (Unbalanced) Ed (FlaHeatWave) Thank you

Ended up today at 119hp and 124tq. Ed @ Dyno Difference in Dallas done the tuning and is another great guy to deal with.


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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1340 on: April 02, 2017, 11:43:01 PM »

Ed did feel that maybe the Mellows may have restricted the motor just a little. I have a spare set of regular Crusher baffles but just not sure that whatever difference there might be would be worth the extra exhaust note
Was sure nice for the wife and I to be able to talk back and fourth this afternoon without yelling this afternoon.

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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1341 on: April 03, 2017, 12:10:11 PM »

Ed did feel that maybe the Mellows may have restricted the motor just a little. I have a spare set of regular Crusher baffles but just not sure that whatever difference there might be would be worth the extra exhaust note
Was sure nice for the wife and I to be able to talk back and fourth this afternoon without yelling this afternoon.

David

Yep, Your combination with the DD7 is going to be one of those "Effortless Power Everywhere" "Sport Touring" Builds :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21:

What Octane did you Tune with??

Did Ed mention what those 2 small "dips" in the TQ Curve were??

Oh yeah, "Christmas" is not over,,, You'll get the same feeling everytime you start the Bike :bananarock:
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1342 on: April 03, 2017, 12:21:19 PM »

Tuned with 91. That is the best you will find around here and if you start hitting the back roads a lot of time 89 is it.
Yes Ed and I talked about those dips and he believes it is the plug in the Mellows restrictioning at those two points. Says he has seen the exact same dip with the 2 other bikes he has tuned with the Mellows. He really wanted me to swap to the standard baffle so those would go away and he felt like we would probably gain 3/5 on both TQ and HP with that change. Want to get the trailer on and see what the Mellows are like, then slip the standard baffles back in and ride with the trailer. Will depend on noise but if the standards are still volume friendly we may retune. Right now I am sure liking  the quiet though.

I love Christmas

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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1343 on: April 03, 2017, 10:34:39 PM »

Well the rain stopping this afternoon and the wife and I were able to get out for a bit. The combination of the DD7 and the 117 is a great touring combination. There is power anywhere you need it no matter what you need it for. Passing no problem, hill no problem, rip through the gears.. uh oh....we found a problem. I was warned by a couple people, that there would be holding problems in the clutch dept, sure enough there is. Ran through the gears pretty hard 2up and when we went to 5th it blew complete through the clutch. Up until that point this thing works and is very smooth from 2200 till the next hole at around 5600. Those on the fence about going this route, go for it. Now to.fix the clutch.

David
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1344 on: April 04, 2017, 08:50:06 PM »

Having 117" kit installed this week in a 17 Breakout, having heads milled .020 and using .030 head gasket, will this bring compression up enough for 259 cam work well in lower RPM range?
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1345 on: April 04, 2017, 09:21:48 PM »

Having 117" kit installed this week in a 17 Breakout, having heads milled .020 and using .030 head gasket, will this bring compression up enough for 259 cam work well in lower RPM range?
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Some of that will depend on how far the pistons are in the hole. I think if you dig back through this thread you will find a couple builds with the 259, heads cut, and not cut with a.030 gasket. It will give you an idea of where it will end up
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1346 on: April 05, 2017, 09:11:00 AM »

Yes measure the piston to deck
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1347 on: May 16, 2017, 08:45:47 AM »

Good morning all,

I had quick question on 117" concerning my exhaust. I installed Rinehart Slimline Duals with the 4" cans a year and a half ago. Now I'm wanting to install the 117" kit. I saw a review on the Rineharts suggesting that if you wanted to do anything more than intake, exhaust, and maybe cams that the Rineharts may not be enough pipe to get the most gains. If that's the case, anyone have any ballpark thoughts on how much I may lose? Would switching to the 2.5" Hi Flo baffles make any difference or is that just for more noise?

Will the same headers that fit the 110" fit the 117"?

Thanks!
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1348 on: May 30, 2017, 09:43:11 AM »

Ed did feel that maybe the Mellows may have restricted the motor just a little. I have a spare set of regular Crusher baffles but just not sure that whatever difference there might be would be worth the extra exhaust note
Was sure nice for the wife and I to be able to talk back and fourth this afternoon without yelling this afternoon.

David


I have mellows on my 124 making 150+ and 140+ Not seen that muffler cause a issue thus far . BTW congrats on the build.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1349 on: May 30, 2017, 09:46:14 AM »

117 kit all stock heads t/b head pipe is a DX with RC extreme mufflers 2.5 cores ( they did not help )

But made a nice tq number

Comp ratio came in at 10.4 Our 577 cam .

2014 cvo 117 kit 577 cam stock heads dx pipe rc extreme mufflers by GMR Performance, on Flickr
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