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[laylonlor]

tts tuner works for too!!

[WildmanUltra]

Thanks everyone for the replies. I am going to call the dealership tomorrow and see if I can cancel the order for the SE tuner. I was out of the HD world for about 4 years which is when all the EPA BS happened with HD. On my old bike I was running a Power Vision with Woods 555 cams and was happy with it overall.

This CVO buy was a dream for many years and the only reason I was able to do it was that it was a used bike. But it was such a low mileage bike and I LOVE the colors.....

I don't know right now if I should stick with the SE 259 or get an aftermarket set. I hadn't planned on buying this bike but then of course rode it and saw it and as they say that was the rest of the story.

[HD Street Performance]

The SE kit is short compression for the SE259 so it won't have as much grunt as you may like without a compression bump. Not a possibility without changing pistons and/or head work. A few cams that have grunt plus at 117" and that combination the Tman 625 and TTS 150. Both work with stock heads.

[busarealfast]

I just installed a harley 117 with a redshift 587 stock throttle body and the torque from 2200 up is suWEET!

[TN]

Had my build tuned, while not record breaking numbers it sure is a pleasure to ride. A big thumbs up to J&B Performance for the tune. 

 

[HD Street Performance]

Good tuner TN, J&B gets it done
Proves the big baffle does not kill torque when duration is conservative as compared to the SE259 in the kit. The SE259 really needs 11:1 or close to it for any decent low end torque. Optimum for the TTS cam is 10.5 and IIRC the kit yields 10.0 nominal. Adding compression with head work would get this build into the low 120s but more importantly another 7 ft/lbs torque and that would start right at the beginning of the run.

[TN]

Personally I think too much emphasisis is put on the WOT run snapshot of the tune, but I get it.  I even suggested that we forgo the WOT runs but then we’d have nothing to compare. This tune is the first one in a long time I’ve had done by a pro and I’m impressed how she handles at all speeds and throttle positions. The 20 ftlbs of torque they gained at low rpm impresses me.

When I was doing preliminary planning of my build I consulted several pros on it, I was told by more than one to go another direction in cam choice. I like the way she handles and hope I get the reliability that I’m looking for.


Just Ride


I highly recommend J&B Performance in Mohawk TN for your tuning needs. They are a complete shop but I haven't experienced anything but their tuning skills to this point but wouldn't hesitate to let them wrench on my bike. Pride in their workmanship is evident at their shop.

[hawgzilla]

Personally I think too much emphasisis is put on the WOT run snapshot of the tune, but I get it.  I even suggested that we forgo the WOT runs but then we’d have nothing to compare. This tune is the first one in a long time I’ve had done by a pro and I’m impressed how she handles at all speeds and throttle positions. The 20 ftlbs of torque they gained at low rpm impresses me.

YES!!  Way too much emphasis IS put on the WOT snapshot.  But you are very correct, it’s the only thing to easily compare builds.
As you figured out, most of a professional tune is done at part throttle settings.  The WOT part is by far the easiest to get right.  The part throttle tuning takes 95% of the tuning time if tuned properly.

[HD Street Performance]

But it just so happens that at light throttle and stoplight to stoplight the bikes with the torque dips that show at WOT suffer in traffic as well. Reversion is a big killer in driveability and that can't be tuned out all the time. To tune them right all the cells need to be sampled and the best of the tuners use at least 2 aftermarket packages to sample and wide plus narrow band sensors simultaneously. Pipe is a big influence!

[MCE]

Had my build tuned, while not record breaking numbers it sure is a pleasure to ride. A big thumbs up to J&B Performance for the tune. 

 

Looks like money well spent if that was just a tune.

[MCE]

Had my build tuned, while not record breaking numbers it sure is a pleasure to ride. A big thumbs up to J&B Performance for the tune. 

 

As long as you're happy with it that's all that matters. It's running out of air up top, if you want to pick
that up, a larger valve and some port work would fix it. jfyi... (a larger TB would help too)

[MCE]

Matt, You talk the talk, but I know you can't walk the walk, stick with two strokes sir. 

Whatever... Two-stroke/Four Stroke, doesn't matter. They're both air pumps and they
operate according to the same laws of physics. Try educating yourself before making dumb
statements.

My builds make well over One HP and a Ft/lb per CI. (What you have is lame for a 117  . )

[MCE]

 I sent my heads to you for this build so I feel that I can make a statement questioning your skills. And you want to educate me.

Lets see what you ride??

Bullchit, (You don't have my heads. If you did, your HP and TQ would be the same).
And no, I said educate yourself. But you obviously can't read, so that's out.

I ride a 95" Dyna, and it makes more HP than your 117

[fastfreddy]

And the ride is on ... yeeeha

[MCE]

Then there's something else going on. (That thing should easily be in the 130HP range).
The 103->110s I been doing are making 129/129.

Added:
Your curves look pretty typical for the TTS150 cams. (I would have gone with TMan 585s)
https://www.google.com/search?q=tts+150+cam+review&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=LKQ5uJRt0-ZTlM%253A%252CBZTino1XFt19gM%252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kR9-uDYZFWjKuM9iFUUFUtJvGEeTQ&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjh04fa-objAhUiAp0JHcRXBr0Q9QEwC3oECAUQCA#imgdii=ENtWRzX9ELVi1M:&imgrc=LKQ5uJRt0-ZTlM:&vet=1