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Title: wo575 throttle issue
Post by: Alremc on October 11, 2014, 01:14:35 PM
My dealer just installed the WO575 handlebar  on my 2012 cvo flht  but I noticed the throttle is sticking at slow speeds or if I just want to lightly throttle at low speed. Took it back and they Re lubed what they could without having to take it apart. Service guy said sometimes the throttle by wire isn't a perfect fit and that could be the issue. Anyone encounter or have any ideas if that could be the issue?
Title: Re: wo575 throttle issue
Post by: Para Bellum on October 11, 2014, 02:44:23 PM
Just one experience, but I haven't had any problems with WO575s on my SEUC3 TBW. 
Title: Re: wo575 throttle issue
Post by: grc on October 11, 2014, 04:07:12 PM
My dealer just installed the WO575 handlebar  on my 2012 cvo flht  but I noticed the throttle is sticking at slow speeds or if I just want to lightly throttle at low speed. Took it back and they Re lubed what they could without having to take it apart. Service guy said sometimes the throttle by wire isn't a perfect fit and that could be the issue. Anyone encounter or have any ideas if that could be the issue?

So if the "service guy" thinks it might be because the throttle sensor didn't fit the bar correctly, I wonder why they installed it anyway and gave it back to you with a sticking/binding throttle?  If the sensor was too tight a fit it would have been very easy to do a light reaming of the bar opening rather than just beating the sensor into the bar end, if that's what they did.

Tell this "service guy" it isn't your job to figure it out, it's his responsibility to get it right.  Period.

Jerry
Title: Re: wo575 throttle issue
Post by: ultrafxr on October 11, 2014, 04:37:50 PM
It is not possible to lube the tbw sensor. It either works correctly or it does not. Have WO575s on my cuse7 and have helped two others install in their bikes. No fitment or tbw sensor issues. Your dealer needs to step up and fix this for you.


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Title: Re: wo575 throttle issue
Post by: Alremc on October 12, 2014, 10:10:50 AM
Thanks all for the posts, Will be heading back to the dealer for another shot to get it fixed. For the short time I have  ridden the bike, I'm liking them WO575s!
Title: Re: wo575 throttle issue
Post by: ultrafxr on October 12, 2014, 11:03:57 AM
Thanks all for the posts, Will be heading back to the dealer for another shot to get it fixed. For the short time I have  ridden the bike, I'm liking them WO575s!
I have the WO575s on my '07 and on my '12.  Great bars imo.  They fit me well and they look great also.  Good luck in getting your throttle issue sorted.  BTW it is not uncommon for the twist grip sensor to fail.  It happened on my '12 during the first year I had it and the symptoms were similar - operation not smooth and did not want to go to full off position on its own - felt like it was sticking or hanging up.
Title: Re: wo575 throttle issue
Post by: Alremc on October 13, 2014, 01:07:15 PM
So another round with the dealer and another tech said that if the tbw sensor wasn't replaced when they replaced the bars that could be the problem. as I have very basic idea how the tbw works and if there are and  moving parts and as Ultrafxr seen this on his machine, I'm hoping that solve this. Keep you all posted when done.
Title: Re: wo575 throttle issue
Post by: Springer Dan on October 13, 2014, 01:34:08 PM
My dealer insisted on replacing the twist grip sensor when installing 578s even though the bike was fairly new. Said that they had seen too many issues with them.
Title: Re: wo575 throttle issue
Post by: smiley1049 on October 13, 2014, 02:50:18 PM
Replaced about 10 sets of handle bars never had to replace throttle sensor.
Title: Re: wo575 throttle issue
Post by: grc on October 13, 2014, 03:52:28 PM
Replaced about 10 sets of handle bars never had to replace throttle sensor.

 :2vrolijk_21:     It's pretty simple.  Remove the old sensor with diligence and care, and then reinstall it to the new bars with proper diligence and care.  If the sensor worked fine before, it should work fine after.  If it worked fine before, and works like crap after, then the guy doing the bar change screwed up the sensor.  The part I really love is how they gave the OP's bike back to him either without checking the operation of the throttle at all, or just assumed he wouldn't know the difference.  As for any shop that just tells a customer he has to buy a new sensor every time they change his bars, that's BS.  What they are doing is having the customer pay for "insurance" against the tech screwing things up.  $115 extra just because the "tech" is ham fisted, in other words.

Jerry
Title: Re: wo575 throttle issue
Post by: phato1 on October 13, 2014, 09:59:40 PM
:2vrolijk_21:     It's pretty simple.  Remove the old sensor with diligence and care, and then reinstall it to the new bars with proper diligence and care.  If the sensor worked fine before, it should work fine after.  If it worked fine before, and works like crap after, then the guy doing the bar change screwed up the sensor.  The part I really love is how they gave the OP's bike back to him either without checking the operation of the throttle at all, or just assumed he wouldn't know the difference.  As for any shop that just tells a customer he has to buy a new sensor every time they change his bars, that's BS.  What they are doing is having the customer pay for "insurance" against the tech screwing things up.  $115 extra just because the "tech" is ham fisted, in other words.

Jerry

Plenty of "techs" out there with that particular affliction....unfortunately..
Title: Re: wo575 throttle issue
Post by: Alremc on October 14, 2014, 12:14:04 PM
Plenty of "techs" out there with that particular affliction....unfortunately..
Unfortunately I might have been one of the unfortunate with the tech with that affliction. After they fix this issue, I'll have to find another shop to handle my business as the expert service advisor initially told me that there was nothing wrong as he demonstrated to me. His demostration was grabbing a handful of throttle and fully opening twice! Yea dude, that is the way i ride every time, FULL OPEN THROTTLE! Now how about trying real life throttle and see where it sticks! yea, there you go!  >:(
Title: Re: wo575 throttle issue
Post by: Para Bellum on October 14, 2014, 04:35:03 PM
My dealer insisted on replacing the twist grip sensor when installing 578s even though the bike was fairly new. Said that they had seen too many issues with them.
BS. Another $tealer in action. Replaced 3 sets of bars without replacing twist grip sensor, and no problems. Jerry nailed it.
Title: Re: wo575 throttle issue
Post by: Alremc on October 17, 2014, 07:41:31 PM
Well to close this thread out, the dealer replaced the TBW sensor and the throttle is now smooth as butter. They nailed me for the cost of the sensor and 1/2 of the time it took them to replace it. The saving grace was since they had the fairing off this time, i had them move the bars back toward me about 1/4 of an inch and that did the trick. They are fitting me just how I had hoped when i started this process. Thanks to all who commented on the subject!
Title: Re: wo575 throttle issue
Post by: tdowell65 on October 20, 2014, 08:51:52 AM
Thats great to hear.  I have same issue on my 13 thats has 576's on them just a little stick at beginning of problem
.  When it was in for last service they lubed it said that should fix it.  It didn't and I'm actually taking it down to have that and the heated grips fixed this am.  So good to know thats what it was. 
Thanks
Title: Re: wo575 throttle issue
Post by: 08glide on October 22, 2014, 11:55:48 AM
glad you got it fixed. I posted earlier on a post for a member doing a swap of bars on his own, to replace throttle position sensor. post was by moto4sho on completion with pics. I didn't see whether he replaced the position sensor or not.  I've had issues with 08 sg when grips were replaced,as well as several others I know. too many issues & too sensitive to not replace while it is down the first time. just mho. as stated, glad your back on track
Title: Re: wo575 throttle issue
Post by: Alremc on October 27, 2014, 03:27:18 PM
glad you got it fixed. I posted earlier on a post for a member doing a swap of bars on his own, to replace throttle position sensor. post was by moto4sho on completion with pics. I didn't see whether he replaced the position sensor or not.  I've had issues with 08 sg when grips were replaced,as well as several others I know. too many issues & too sensitive to not replace while it is down the first time. just mho. as stated, glad your back on track
YEs, seems like a hit and miss 08glide, seems some members have replaced thier with no issues and others had issues. I was in comms with a member from vtwin site and he described the exact symptoms i was having and what he did to fix it. And yes, right after a bar swap and he thought he was careful too!