thanks for all your insight fellas..
i spent the better part of this week on this issue.. talking to people, harley svc techs, google, and measuring clearances, checking timing, you name it.. i probably did it.
the mechanic at the dealer made a note in my svc history of the compression readings after the install which sparked me to talk to other dealers.. and do some diagnosing and figured 2 things out for sure....
1) that i made a good decision and dont go to the dealer anymore..
2) initial compression readings were 226 rear, 218 front, which is extremely high for a stage 3 kit, 10.5 compression..
as of wednesday that just passed, the initial mechanic doesnt work there anymore, but the current mechanic still stated its normal till after breaking.. so ok..
but heres the kicker, after the initial install, and for 1200 or so miles i use to have an abrupt and violent compression kickback, no metal to metal noise.. but it was bad enough that i did want to start the motor in fear of breaking the starter clutch(gear) apart or burning out the starter.. i mean really bad blow out thru the intake too.. and dealer still stated its nrmal till after breakin..
at that 1000-1200 mile point, i had learned my way around the tuner well, so i went into the tuner and reduced starting fuel pulse and it became normal..
but...
somewhere along during that initial 1200 miles or so one of those kickbacks happened at just the right time, causing just enough slack on the timing chain and i had piston/valve contact
i didnt catch it till i rolled the valves on glass and they ever so slightly kinda favored rolling to one side.. so ok,, im blind as sh*t so i clamped them individually in my lathe and spun the valves at 1000 rpm. and man o man did the bend show up at that rpm
btw..
that clear line on the pistons valve pocket, isnt clean metal.. camera picked up the flashlight, flash or something, who knows.. its not there normally..
on another note..
the guide installation..
the heads have been checked and pasted with flying colors, no issues except for VERY slight indication of out of round contact on the valve seats that have already been lapped out using another valve
based on some statements from you guys about this..
the busted guides have been measured for location (micrometer) and pressed out and the sleeves are spotless, clean, no scars, so im thinking giving them a polish hone, re-install another set of OEM valve guides by heating the head, freezing the guide, and pressing in to match the original location, is this not a good idea?