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[RJ749]

French shoulder fired rocket firing.



Watch the above French version first.

[Gettinold]

ROG, ID SAY WE WOULD WIN THAT WAR

[SPIDERMAN]

Hmmmmmmm I don't think the British would agree with this. Remember the Faulkland Islands ?  Dollar for dollar the most effective missle in the world is the French made Exocet which can fly below radar, do incredible damage and costs about $30k on the world weapons market.

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[ronshood2000]

Not sure where your  $$$$ figure comes from.  Regardless, you are right, it's cheap and effective, especially regarding certain versions of the Exocet. Almost impossible to defeat other than shooting down the plane that carries it before launch. The only problem I have is that the French Gov't will sell to anyone and do not discriminate, which they should. The are people out there who should not be allowed to purchase this item just because they have the Euro's to do it.

[Farmer]

I wouldn't say the French will sell advanced weapons technology to just anyone . . . . it's just anyone who has OIL.

Farmer

[Twolanerider]

Hmmmmmmm I don't think the British would agree with this. Remember the Faulkland Islands ?  Dollar for dollar the most effective missle in the world is the French made Exocet which can fly below radar, do incredible damage and costs about $30k on the world weapons market.

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That was a weird day for battle history Brian.  A US manufactured Lockheed Neptune made the first sighting of the British ships.  French Etandards were dispatched carrying French missiles.  The French planes docked with an American manufactured KC-130 tanker before completing the attack.  There was even a Lear jet flown as potential decoy.  The only thing Argentinian in the entire attack was the pilots.

The Brits never saw it coming either.  At least not until the last few seconds.  The old almost useless radar on the Sheffield probably never saw the plane and never tracked the missile.  Though sailors on board at the time disagreed the later Defence Ministry report said the missile warhead didn't even detonate.  But the impact broke the water main and crippled her generators.  So no real damage control was mounted to the fire started by the rocket motor that consumed the ship.  Then, to top it all off, while waiting for rescue the sailers on board Sheffield sang Monty Python's "Always Look on the Bright Side of Life."  That was a weird nasty little war.

[RJ749]

That was a weird day for battle history Brian.  A US manufactured Lockheed Neptune made the first sighting of the British ships.  French Etandards were dispatched carrying French missiles.  The French planes docked with an American manufactured KC-130 tanker before completing the attack.  There was even a Lear jet flown as potential decoy.  The only thing Argentinian in the entire attack was the pilots.

The Brits never saw it coming either.  At least not until the last few seconds.  The old almost useless radar on the Sheffield probably never saw the plane and never tracked the missile.  Though sailors on board at the time disagreed the later Defence Ministry report said the missile warhead didn't even detonate.  But the impact broke the water main and crippled her generators.  So no real damage control was mounted to the fire started by the rocket motor that consumed the ship.  Then, to top it all off, while waiting for rescue the sailers on board Sheffield sang Monty Python's "Always Look on the Bright Side of Life."  That was a weird nasty little war.

What a "Charlie Fox" that was, but it lasted as long as I care to see most conflicts that come to live fire last.

[Twolanerider]

What a "Charlie Fox" that was, but it lasted as long as I care to see most conflicts that come to live fire last.

Too true.  The British started their counter with an air strike from a joint use base flying long range bombers that were slated to have already been decommissioned but were still flying.  They fought their air battle with airplanes really not appropriate to the job.  Carried troops on luxury liners that laid down plywood to protect the carpets because they didn't have enough troop lift capability.  Were getting regular resupply from us of air to air missiles and other supplies on an urgent basis because they didn't have war stocks in reserve.  And still the Argentines couldn't handle them in Argentina's own backyard.  And it was a nasty little war.  Maggie Thatcher got her victory though.  I don't even suggest that it wasn't necessary after the Argentine troops landed on the Falklands.  But from the diplomacy (and lack of) before the war to everything that happened during it was just a weird nasty screwed up little war.

[SPIDERMAN]

Not sure where your  $$$$ figure comes from.  Regardless, you are right, it's cheap and effective, especially regarding certain versions of the Exocet. Almost impossible to defeat other than shooting down the plane that carries it before launch. The only problem I have is that the French Gov't will sell to anyone and do not discriminate, which they should. The are people out there who should not be allowed to purchase this item just because they have the Euro's to do it.

I am the NAVSTA San Diego Homeport Engineering Rep for Bath Iron Works. Look us up on the I-NET and you'll see how I know what I know.

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[CVOwner]

Did you ever see the Ebay ad, Will sell cheap, French rifle, never fired, only dropped once! funny chit. As someone on this site says!

[RJ749]

I am the NAVSTA San Diego Homeport Engineering Rep for Bath Iron Works. Look us up on the I-NET and you'll see how I know what I know.

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I love that 

[mr_magoo]

Thought thats what the MK15 Phalanx defense system was to shoot those down.

[ronshood2000]

MK15 AKA CIWS (Christ It Won't Shoot)?

[Twolanerider]

Thought thats what the MK15 Phalanx defense system was to shoot those down.

That's what the guys on the Stark probably expected too.

[ronshood2000]

I could really get into this. The Stark had other issues. One, keep in mind that the Exocet RCS (radar cross section) is very small. So that makes it very hard to see with radar, espcially with the SPS-49 radar. So the ability to see skin seperation from the F-1 was more than likely not seen by the operator. Then, also, especially in mid 80's, ships did not run the CIWS in full auto and probably still don't to this day. This is not to mention the SLQ-32 ESM operator would have a very short reaction time once Exocet radar lit off. So with all of our expensive systems to keep ships safe, a $30k missile can pretty much ruin your day.

Also, Iraq was our friend then, and who shoots at their friend?