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timo482

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Re: Why does one bike have more oil puking into aircleaner
« Reply #15 on: July 26, 2011, 09:17:03 PM »

my 96" puked oil & used oil... the dealer put in new rings & pistons and rehoned the cylinders - broke it in on the dyno

does not use a drop of oil, dry air cleaner ever since

if the rings get too hot they lose tension
some rings are not as good as others - random issue?
harley rep told me not to idle it AT ALL first 1000 miles to prevent the rings from getting too hot

in my one case they were right - i just start and ride gently away - and its perfect & its been real hot a few times since then but the oil issue has never come back.

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Re: Why does one bike have more oil puking into aircleaner
« Reply #16 on: August 07, 2011, 09:38:15 PM »

A lot of things have been said here already, but here's one more.

Maybe his brake pads last longer than yours....sound weird?  Engine braking moves a lot of air in the crankcase but the closed throttle doesn't let that vented crankcase air in the intake plenum, so you pressurize the air cleaner...no place for the oil mist to go.  Also, a dirty air cleaner can work to increase vacuum in the air cleaner area where the crankcase vents and this can pull more crankcase air into the intake, adding more oil mist to the area.
Just thoughts.
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Re: Why does one bike have more oil puking into aircleaner
« Reply #17 on: August 07, 2011, 11:46:10 PM »

A lot of things have been said here already, but here's one more.

Maybe his brake pads last longer than yours....sound weird?  Engine braking moves a lot of air in the crankcase but the closed throttle doesn't let that vented crankcase air in the intake plenum, so you pressurize the air cleaner...no place for the oil mist to go.  Also, a dirty air cleaner can work to increase vacuum in the air cleaner area where the crankcase vents and this can pull more crankcase air into the intake, adding more oil mist to the area.
Just thoughts.
T
I like this answer.  I will observe to see if he engine brakes.
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Re: Why does one bike have more oil puking into aircleaner
« Reply #18 on: August 15, 2011, 10:28:28 PM »

did he change cams what cams did he use.  I had that problem with fueling reaper 575. change them problem went away.
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Re: Why does one bike have more oil puking into aircleaner
« Reply #19 on: August 16, 2011, 12:40:02 PM »

Yes he did change cams SE259 I think.
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Re: Why does one bike have more oil puking into aircleaner
« Reply #20 on: September 18, 2011, 09:46:12 AM »

At that point, I'd perform a leakdown test, and if all is well, pull the rockers, replace the breathers, and open the rocker arm support plate drain holes to .125".
As a matter of fact, that is SOP on all our in-house installs. :)
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Re: Why does one bike have more oil puking into aircleaner
« Reply #21 on: September 18, 2011, 09:54:32 AM »

Lou, thanks for the info.
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Re: Why does one bike have more oil puking into aircleaner
« Reply #22 on: September 18, 2011, 12:10:27 PM »

I detoured my puke with a couple of hoses onto the ground.  I would have blowby on my right saddle bag pretty good after a long trip.  I got real tired of cleaning it, so I got the hose and ran it down.  Not a wonderful thing for the environment, but what can ya do. At least my air cleaner and bag stays clean.  :nixweiss:
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Re: Why does one bike have more oil puking into aircleaner
« Reply #23 on: September 18, 2011, 01:54:23 PM »

I detoured my puke with a couple of hoses onto the ground.  I would have blowby on my right saddle bag pretty good after a long trip.  I got real tired of cleaning it, so I got the hose and ran it down.  Not a wonderful thing for the environment, but what can ya do. At least my air cleaner and bag stays clean.  :nixweiss:
I hope I remember to check out your hose routeing while we're in MV.  I need to do the same deal, Stuart.  ;) spyder
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Re: Why does one bike have more oil puking into aircleaner
« Reply #24 on: September 18, 2011, 02:23:39 PM »

I hope I remember to check out your hose routeing while we're in MV.  I need to do the same deal, Stuart.  ;) spyder

Good ring seal is essential for no crankcase blow-by and maximum power and torque. It helps on all four strokes.
Go ahead and route the breathers out but fix the blow-by first.
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Re: Why does one bike have more oil puking into aircleaner
« Reply #25 on: September 18, 2011, 03:58:31 PM »

Lou, thanks for the info.


No problem Rickasha...  Hope it helps..
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Re: Why does one bike have more oil puking into aircleaner
« Reply #26 on: September 18, 2011, 05:03:24 PM »

Spy. I'll show you how I did it. Pretty easy and no more mess.  I'm not gonna crack the motor open when this took care of most of my problem.  
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Re: Why does one bike have more oil puking into aircleaner
« Reply #27 on: September 18, 2011, 05:48:07 PM »

My thoughts was maybe some could use this for warranty work...
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Re: Why does one bike have more oil puking into aircleaner
« Reply #28 on: September 18, 2011, 06:39:23 PM »

Try it.  I am way past my warrantee.   :nixweiss:
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Re: Why does one bike have more oil puking into aircleaner
« Reply #29 on: September 18, 2011, 06:57:55 PM »

Try it.  I am way past my warrantee.   :nixweiss:

My warranty expires on the 26th of this month.. I plan on going this week to start the battle...
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