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CVO Technical => Cleaning/Detailing => Topic started by: Scott7d on November 11, 2015, 07:57:49 AM

Title: Chrome swirl mark fixes and prevention
Post by: Scott7d on November 11, 2015, 07:57:49 AM
I am starting to notice some very light scratches and swirl marks on my chrome. I’ve always been careful about cleaning my bike. Good cleaners, not wiping the bike when it’s dry, etc. Generally when I clean anything chrome, I just go over it with a warm damp microfiber cloth and then dry it with a terry cloth or microfiber. Microfiber is supposedly not supposed to scratch surfaces but I’m starting to wonder (getting some swirl marks on clear coat as well).

Can anyone recommend a product that will remove or lighten swirl marks in chrome? Additionally any better methods to detail the bike that will prevent this would be much appreciated. I do have Meguiar's Ultimate Compound which did work great on the clear coat of my previous bike, but so far there is nothing on my Road King really worth going over.

Thank you!
Title: Re: Chrome swirl mark fixes and prevention
Post by: mark on November 11, 2015, 09:21:19 AM
I've never found anything that removed a scratch from chrome...and that's what swirls are.  I practice what a show car guy recommended:  wax or polish in straight lines and not in circles (even though most polishes and waxes advise to make small circles).  I've never had an issue with swirl marks when using this procedure.
Title: Re: Chrome swirl mark fixes and prevention
Post by: Scott7d on November 11, 2015, 10:16:08 AM
Thank you! I've done some research and supposedly a product called "Blue Job" can help with swirl marks. But I understand what you are saying. I don't see how it could be fixed on chrome with out some high level/professional work.
Title: Re: Chrome swirl mark fixes and prevention
Post by: TIF2 on November 11, 2015, 05:09:29 PM
Microfiber cloths do not put swirl marks in paint - very tiny rock particles do. Once chrome is scratched it cannot be fixed without sending it out to have it chromed again. If a polish or wax or whatever gets the swirl marks out then it was something ON the chrome, not a scratch IN the chrome.
Title: Re: Chrome swirl mark fixes and prevention
Post by: cyco1450 on November 15, 2015, 10:15:52 PM
Try Simichrome or Flitz. World famous chrome polishes...
Title: Re: Chrome swirl mark fixes and prevention
Post by: Chains on November 15, 2015, 11:42:50 PM
You need to watch where you buy your micro fiber towels. Those sold at auto parts stores and dollar general are thin and stiff, they do scratch your paint.  SAMs club has a big package of them and they are thicker and will not scratch paint. Also buying from places like Griots will get you top notch microfiber towels too.
Title: Re: Chrome swirl mark fixes and prevention
Post by: CVODON on November 16, 2015, 08:58:38 PM
Microfiber or old school diapers do not scratch a finish. The dirt you are wiping does that and it is the microscopic particles that you can hardly even see that create the swirls. Blue job is OK, but the scratches are not just being removed, the chrome around the swirl is being removed as well.
I read on this site all the time where guys "wipe" down the bikes between rides, The black dust on the wheels, front of engine and rear of the bike is partially brake dust which is Metal particles, wipe them you scratch whatever they are on, you have to use water/soap or something similar to carry the metal away gently to keep the scratches from  starting. All the wax/sealant/miracle products that are constantly benig touted will just not repel mini metal shards when you dry wipe them.
Good luck!
Title: Re: Chrome swirl mark fixes and prevention
Post by: Rooster on November 17, 2015, 02:43:46 PM
Try Simichrome or Flitz. World famous chrome polishes...
:2vrolijk_21:for Simichrome, I have used this for years. Tried Blue Job was a big mess.
Title: Re: Chrome swirl mark fixes and prevention
Post by: Scott7d on November 30, 2015, 07:53:45 PM
Thanks for the replies. I never wipe the bike dry. I always use a microfiber cloth damp with detailer or just warm water to remove dust before I really start cleaning. I'll make not of some of the products you guys recommended.
Title: Re: Chrome swirl mark fixes and prevention
Post by: Supershooter on April 06, 2016, 09:49:43 PM
Double 00 Steel wool cleans chrome up like a champ.
Supershooter
Title: Re: Chrome swirl mark fixes and prevention
Post by: CVODON on April 07, 2016, 10:50:23 AM
ANY steel wool scratches chrome. Unless you are a used car lot stay away from steel wool on any chrome since the '80's. Chrome on bikes and newer cars is not like '57 Chevy or Ford chrome, you will scratch it if you use an abrasive product on it. You will scratch is if you wipe it with a damp micro fiber cloth if it is dirty.
Ask Advantage Chrome in Nashville (top of the line coating company) about using abrasives (steel wool, compound etc) on chrome, take there advice.
And if you have the new rage, Black Chrome, scratches will show in it if you rub against it with about anything dry as the black reflects from under the color. Use steel wool on it and it is ruined.
Title: Re: Chrome swirl mark fixes and prevention
Post by: Alien on April 07, 2016, 11:07:45 AM
There are different grades and quality of microfiber! You said you dry with terry or microfiber DON'T!

Take your microfiber and rub it on a blank CD. Does it scratch? If not you are good to go. A good car wash has lubrication to help prevent scratching (swirls). Ever heard of a 2 bucket wash? Helps keep reintroducing dirt back onto your paint.

Look into a Metro Vacuum B3-CD Air Force Blaster 10-Amp 4-HP Motorcycle Dryer to dry instead of using anything to dry your vehicle after washing.
Title: Re: Chrome swirl mark fixes and prevention
Post by: CVODON on April 10, 2016, 01:05:51 AM
You can not completely dry a car/bike/boat etc with air. I have been using air to help with the drying for 35 years now, nothing new and does not require a Metro type blaster, althought they are a good product, but If you have filtered air that you are comfortable with using to paint your car, you can dry with it as well. But air alone WILL leave dry spots, blow off the excess and use a Microfiber waffle weave towel that is designed for drying, with a hemmed or silk banded edge. Autogeek has some wonderful products just for drying. They will not scratch, if kept clean and used correctly.
Also, I recently broke down an bought a pint of Chemical Guys micro fiber wash. I have been using premium car wash soap for years but had difficulty getting a complete rinse and resulting in occassional streaks on glass. The new soap has completely eliminated this problem. The towels/rags look brighter, absorb better and do not leave any streaks even on glass.
Good stuff, $11.00 from Amazon.
Title: Re: Chrome swirl mark fixes and prevention
Post by: ChopperPilot on November 24, 2016, 07:55:39 AM
You can not completely dry a car/bike/boat etc with air. I have been using air to help with the drying for 35 years now, nothing new and does not require a Metro type blaster, althought they are a good product, but If you have filtered air that you are comfortable with using to paint your car, you can dry with it as well. But air alone WILL leave dry spots, blow off the excess and use a Microfiber waffle weave towel that is designed for drying, with a hemmed or silk banded edge. Autogeek has some wonderful products just for drying. They will not scratch, if kept clean and used correctly.
Also, I recently broke down an bought a pint of Chemical Guys micro fiber wash. I have been using premium car wash soap for years but had difficulty getting a complete rinse and resulting in occassional streaks on glass. The new soap has completely eliminated this problem. The towels/rags look brighter, absorb better and do not leave any streaks even on glass.
Good stuff, $11.00 from Amazon.
Will have to give that a try, I agree with you air drying is only step one in the process.
Title: Re: Chrome swirl mark fixes and prevention
Post by: r0de_runr on September 05, 2017, 07:00:02 PM
This is my CVO Center console after trying any number of metal polishes including Flitz paste.

Nothing gets the scratches out.  This photo looks much worse than it does in regular old sunlight, but still.