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CVO Social => In The News => Topic started by: Aussie on July 01, 2020, 08:16:56 PM
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Come across this on Facebook.
This is disturbing. Newer "Indian".. the cast neck failed just on a corner, no impact. I have no further details.
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WOW!!! Never heard of that happening before... Hopefully the rider was okay..
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Well at least the indian stamp on the neck survived :nervous:
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Just read a few posts about this on the Indian forum. This came from a bookface post and is a hoax. According to the information, the "rider" stated they were in a slow sweeper and the neck just broke off. While I didn't investigate (I don't do bookface), apparently there was some investigation and the rider was hoping to fool InPo into replacing it for him because of the potential casting "flaw" in manufacturing the frame. He didn't have insurance (again, according to the folks that investigated).
Y'all do know that the internet is the devil, right? :huepfenjump3: :bananarock:
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Just read a few posts about this on the Indian forum. This came from a bookface post and is a hoax. According to the information, the "rider" stated they were in a slow sweeper and the neck just broke off. While I didn't investigate (I don't do bookface), apparently there was some investigation and the rider was hoping to fool InPo into replacing it for him because of the potential casting "flaw" in manufacturing the frame. He didn't have insurance (again, according to the folks that investigated).
Y'all do know that the internet is the devil, right? :huepfenjump3: :bananarock:
I agree that you should always verify what you hear on the internet and I am always skeptical of this kind of thing.
Can you clarify one thing for me? What is "Bookface?" :nixweiss:
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I agree that you should always verify what you hear on the internet and I am always skeptical of this kind of thing.
Can you clarify one thing for me? What is "Bookface?" :nixweiss:
Yes - also Haird do you have a link to the story?
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I agree that you should always verify what you hear on the internet and I am always skeptical of this kind of thing.
Can you clarify one thing for me? What is "Bookface?" :nixweiss:
Sorry, that's what I call Facebook....just a play on words.
Yes - also Haird do you have a link to the story?
I have the info on the Indian Motorcycle forum discussion about the pictures, story and investigation on bookface but since I don't have an account there, I don't go there.
Like I stated, this is all info I derived from reading the various posts concerning this topic. There's another going around about the side covers not being mounted correctly (design of the rubber grommets and subsequent mounting) but that's another where someone is trying to convey poor design/manufacture (read litigation) when really it was them not replacing the covers securely after service.
I did find this post a very good, average, response to the neck failure. It's more investigative than accusing. Again, this is what I derived from the pictures, too.
Without knowing the story behind that particular photo, here is my assumption.
It doesn't look like it was a neck failure while riding. No dirt anywhere on the break areas to indicate long term. No other damage on the bike, wheel, motors, bars or fender to show it failed while in motion. There are marks on the side of the fender consistent with it going under the front frame of the trailer. And the body is still upright. It would typically have to be dragged onto the trailer on its side if the front wheel is seperated.
I think it was in the trailer already when it broke. Either tied down way to tight over the neck, or not enough and the bike came forward on the trailer during braking or a separate collision. Or a combination of both.
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I too suspect the frontend didn’t just fall off in a curve. I’m speculating an accident and someone just posted the pics with a phony story.
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Sorry, that's what I call Facebook....just a play on words.
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A brief google search reflects that Indian may have issues with their casting.......I don't have an Indian and never will so I have no interest in researching this further but easy enough to do for anybody that's interested.
https://www.indianmotorcycles.net/threads/chief-dark-horse-broken-frame.303050/#lg=thread-303050&slide=0
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Sorry, that's what I call Facebook....just a play on words.
I have the info on the Indian Motorcycle forum discussion about the pictures, story and investigation on bookface but since I don't have an account there, I don't go there.
Like I stated, this is all info I derived from reading the various posts concerning this topic. There's another going around about the side covers not being mounted correctly (design of the rubber grommets and subsequent mounting) but that's another where someone is trying to convey poor design/manufacture (read litigation) when really it was them not replacing the covers securely after service.
I did find this post a very good, average, response to the neck failure. It's more investigative than accusing. Again, this is what I derived from the pictures, too.
Without knowing the story behind that particular photo, here is my assumption.
It doesn't look like it was a neck failure while riding. No dirt anywhere on the break areas to indicate long term. No other damage on the bike, wheel, motors, bars or fender to show it failed while in motion. There are marks on the side of the fender consistent with it going under the front frame of the trailer. And the body is still upright. It would typically have to be dragged onto the trailer on its side if the front wheel is seperated.
I think it was in the trailer already when it broke. Either tied down way to tight over the neck, or not enough and the bike came forward on the trailer during braking or a separate collision. Or a combination of both.
Thanks. If this is not a casting failure, that is a good explanation. Or the rider hit something - hard - & it cracked. Back in the days when I worked in a garage I can remember when people would bring in a vehicles that "nothing happened to" & then find part of whatever it was they hit embedded underneath their vehicle. It's part of human nature - the Sgt. Schutlze kind.
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So it failed while on the trailer? Or they just decided to stage it perfectly on the trailer?
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So it failed while on the trailer? Or they just decided to stage it perfectly on the trailer?
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It looks that way doesn't it!
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A brief google search reflects that Indian may have issues with their casting.......I don't have an Indian and never will so I have no interest in researching this further but easy enough to do for anybody that's interested.
https://www.indianmotorcycles.net/threads/chief-dark-horse-broken-frame.303050/#lg=thread-303050&slide=0
I read the entire Indian thread...it appears from the OP’s later comments, the bike was involved in a crash. That should dispel any notion of a casting flaw.
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Thanks. If this is not a casting failure, that is a good explanation. Or the rider hit something - hard - & it cracked. Back in the days when I worked in a garage I can remember when people would bring in a vehicles that "nothing happened to" & then find part of whatever it was they hit embedded underneath their vehicle. It's part of human nature - the Sgt. Schutlze kind.
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Anybody that has worked in a dealership for more than 1 week can tell you the "I was just driving down the road and the engine fell out" stories. My favorites always surrounded when a car came in and the oil pan was ripped off. The owner never had any idea how it happened. First question: "you got any teen-age drivers in the house?" UHHHHHHHHH...
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So "Itz FakeNewz", or "The New Indian Hoax".
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Thanks. If this is not a casting failure, that is a good explanation. Or the rider hit something - hard - & it cracked. Back in the days when I worked in a garage I can remember when people would bring in a vehicles that "nothing happened to" & then find part of whatever it was they hit embedded underneath their vehicle. It's part of human nature - the Sgt. Schutlze kind.
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Anybody that has worked in a dealership for more than 1 week can tell you the "I was just driving down the road and the engine fell out" stories. My favorites always surrounded when a car came in and the oil pan was ripped off. The owner never had any idea how it happened. First question: "you got any teen-age drivers in the house?" UHHHHHHHHH...
;D Never had one ripped off but saw one with hole & the owner said "the motor just stopped running." No oil. Worst ones were "It made this real funny noise" & then when you popped the hood you saw what used to be a cat.
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;D Never had one ripped off but saw one with hole & the owner said "the motor just stopped running." No oil. Worst ones were "It made this real funny noise" & then when you popped the hood you saw what used to be a cat.
Here's one,....
I was working at an auto repair shop in Arlington VA and a lady driving an Audi 100 pulls in the driveway. There is oil running out of the pan. The first words out of her mouth were, "This car serves Jesus Christ". I look under the engine and there is a one inch gouge in the bottom of the pan. I said "Ma'am, you can't drive this car, it's leaking oil from a hole". She asks, "Can your fix it?" I said "The pan needs to be replaced, or removed and welded properly". Get this, she says "Can you use glue or tape?" I said, "No, it needs to be done properly, you can't jury rig this". She says,..."But this car serves Jesus", so I replied "Then get him to fix it, I'm not touching it" and walked away. She drove off. How far before before the motor locked up, I do not know.
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Oh, it serves Jesus, ok, I will glue it :nixweiss:
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Here's one,....
I was working at an auto repair shop in Arlington VA and a lady driving an Audi 100 pulls in the driveway. There is oil running out of the pan. The first words out of her mouth were, "This car serves Jesus Christ". I look under the engine and there is a one inch gouge in the bottom of the pan. I said "Ma'am, you can't drive this car, it's leaking oil from a hole". She asks, "Can your fix it?" I said "The pan needs to be replaced, or removed and welded properly". Get this, she says "Can you use glue or tape?" I said, "No, it needs to be done properly, you can't jury rig this". She says,..."But this car serves Jesus", so I replied "Then get him to fix it, I'm not touching it" and walked away. She drove off. How far before before the motor locked up, I do not know.
The devil musta done it. ;D Even if Jesus Took the Wheel doubt she got very far.
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Here's one,....
I was working at an auto repair shop in Arlington VA and a lady driving an Audi 100 pulls in the driveway. There is oil running out of the pan. The first words out of her mouth were, "This car serves Jesus Christ". I look under the engine and there is a one inch gouge in the bottom of the pan. I said "Ma'am, you can't drive this car, it's leaking oil from a hole". She asks, "Can your fix it?" I said "The pan needs to be replaced, or removed and welded properly". Get this, she says "Can you use glue or tape?" I said, "No, it needs to be done properly, you can't jury rig this". She says,..."But this car serves Jesus", so I replied "Then get him to fix it, I'm not touching it" and walked away. She drove off. How far before before the motor locked up, I do not know.
I would have asked her...but do you?
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