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[Aussie]

Come across this on Facebook.
This is disturbing. Newer "Indian".. the cast neck failed just on a corner, no impact. I have no further details.

[Aussie]

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[scotman623]

WOW!!! Never heard of that happening before... Hopefully the rider was okay..

[BUCKNUT GREG]

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Well at least the indian stamp on the neck survived 

[ultrarider123]

Just read a few posts about this on the Indian forum.  This came from a bookface post and is a hoax.  According to the information, the "rider" stated they were in a slow sweeper and the neck just broke off.  While I didn't investigate (I don't do bookface), apparently there was some investigation and the rider was hoping to fool InPo into replacing it for him because of the potential casting "flaw" in manufacturing the frame.  He didn't have insurance (again, according to the folks that investigated). 

Y'all do know that the internet is the devil, right?   

[Phreakyz]

Just read a few posts about this on the Indian forum.  This came from a bookface post and is a hoax.  According to the information, the "rider" stated they were in a slow sweeper and the neck just broke off.  While I didn't investigate (I don't do bookface), apparently there was some investigation and the rider was hoping to fool InPo into replacing it for him because of the potential casting "flaw" in manufacturing the frame.  He didn't have insurance (again, according to the folks that investigated). 

Y'all do know that the internet is the devil, right?   

I agree that you should always verify what you hear on the internet and I am always skeptical of this kind of thing.
Can you clarify one thing for me?  What is "Bookface?"   

[iski]

I agree that you should always verify what you hear on the internet and I am always skeptical of this kind of thing.
Can you clarify one thing for me?  What is "Bookface?"   

Yes - also Haird do you have a link to the story?

[ultrarider123]

I agree that you should always verify what you hear on the internet and I am always skeptical of this kind of thing.
Can you clarify one thing for me?  What is "Bookface?"   

Sorry, that's what I call Facebook....just a play on words.

Yes - also Haird do you have a link to the story?

I have the info on the Indian Motorcycle forum discussion about the pictures, story and investigation on bookface but since I don't have an account there, I don't go there.
Like I stated, this is all info I derived from reading the various posts concerning this topic.  There's another going around about the side covers not being mounted correctly (design of the rubber grommets and subsequent mounting) but that's another where someone is trying to convey poor design/manufacture (read litigation) when really it was them not replacing the covers securely after service.

I did find this post a very good, average, response to the neck failure.  It's more investigative than accusing.  Again, this is what I derived from the pictures, too. 

Without knowing the story behind that particular photo, here is my assumption.

It doesn't look like it was a neck failure while riding. No dirt anywhere on the break areas to indicate long term. No other damage on the bike, wheel, motors, bars or fender to show it failed while in motion. There are marks on the side of the fender consistent with it going under the front frame of the trailer. And the body is still upright. It would typically have to be dragged onto the trailer on its side if the front wheel is seperated.

I think it was in the trailer already when it broke. Either tied down way to tight over the neck, or not enough and the bike came forward on the trailer during braking or a separate collision. Or a combination of both.

[mark]

I too suspect the frontend didn’t just fall off in a curve.  I’m speculating an accident and someone just posted the pics with a phony story. 

[Phreakyz]

Sorry, that's what I call Facebook....just a play on words.

[JCZ]

A brief google search reflects that Indian may have issues with their casting.......I don't have an Indian and never will so I have no interest in researching this further but easy enough to do for anybody that's interested.



https://www.indianmotorcycles.net/threads/chief-dark-horse-broken-frame.303050/#lg=thread-303050&slide=0

[iski]

Sorry, that's what I call Facebook....just a play on words.

I have the info on the Indian Motorcycle forum discussion about the pictures, story and investigation on bookface but since I don't have an account there, I don't go there.
Like I stated, this is all info I derived from reading the various posts concerning this topic.  There's another going around about the side covers not being mounted correctly (design of the rubber grommets and subsequent mounting) but that's another where someone is trying to convey poor design/manufacture (read litigation) when really it was them not replacing the covers securely after service.

I did find this post a very good, average, response to the neck failure.  It's more investigative than accusing.  Again, this is what I derived from the pictures, too. 

Without knowing the story behind that particular photo, here is my assumption.

It doesn't look like it was a neck failure while riding. No dirt anywhere on the break areas to indicate long term. No other damage on the bike, wheel, motors, bars or fender to show it failed while in motion. There are marks on the side of the fender consistent with it going under the front frame of the trailer. And the body is still upright. It would typically have to be dragged onto the trailer on its side if the front wheel is seperated.

I think it was in the trailer already when it broke. Either tied down way to tight over the neck, or not enough and the bike came forward on the trailer during braking or a separate collision. Or a combination of both.

Thanks.  If this is not a casting failure, that is a good explanation.  Or the rider hit something - hard - & it cracked.  Back in the days when I worked in a garage I can remember when people would bring in a vehicles that "nothing happened to" & then find part of whatever it was they hit embedded underneath their vehicle.  It's part of human nature - the Sgt. Schutlze kind.

[Robmay]

So it failed while on the trailer? Or they just decided to stage it perfectly on the trailer?


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[Aussie]

So it failed while on the trailer? Or they just decided to stage it perfectly on the trailer?


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It looks that way doesn't it!

[mark]

A brief google search reflects that Indian may have issues with their casting.......I don't have an Indian and never will so I have no interest in researching this further but easy enough to do for anybody that's interested.



https://www.indianmotorcycles.net/threads/chief-dark-horse-broken-frame.303050/#lg=thread-303050&slide=0

I read the entire Indian thread...it appears from the OP’s later comments, the bike was involved in a crash.  That should dispel any notion of a casting flaw.