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[MrSurly]

No question, I already know that a guru like Dave Stoddard up at Pocono can unquestionably get more out of it, and I'm gonna get up that way at some point. But my point with the PV is that even a Doof like me can quickly get the system very close and not have to worry about burning up their new pistons or leaving just a whole bunch of performance untapped.  I mean to say that it can get pretty close and certainly *way closer* than canned maps or no auto tuning.
But I'm with ya on the need for a real tuner when you want to get everything that's hiding in there. Besides peak numbers, a good tuner will hit all those part-throttle drivability areas that the AT can likely never get.
In fact, just writing this is giving me a reason to maybe form a plan.
I would like to just see how it compares.
I intend to have mine tuned and to find out with real Dyno runs just how much difference there might be.
Dang it, man! You're about to cost me some money!


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[Jswerve]

But I'm with ya on the need for a real tuner when you want to get everything that's hiding in there. Besides peak numbers, a good tuner will hit all those part-throttle drivability areas that the AT can likely never get.
In fact, just writing this is giving me a reason to maybe form a plan.
I would like to just see how it compares.
I intend to have mine tuned and to find out with real Dyno runs just how much difference there might be.
Dang it, man! You're about to cost me some money!


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Hahah that was not my intention brother. I simply was making the point that for my particular scenario I think it would be silly to have cams and heads done and then just do a canned map and auto tune it. Now for a stock setup or maybe just a pipe and A/C I think I could live with it.

But if you insist I would love to see some before and after on your bike 

[Jswerve]

BTW how far are you from GMR in Fort Worth? I would highly recommend letting Steve work his magic 

[MrSurly]

GMR is on my short list. Also interested in others in the TX OK La AR areas. I would prefer to take it to Dave, but PA is a long ride from here... Not ruled out, but still a trek for a day's job.
I'm well past AC but have retained the 110 heads, so far. (I'm not easily convinced that these heads are actually a limiting factor on a 110c.i. so I'm running them for a while longer.) No doubt, the head mongers will happily sell heads that work well, but the CVO heads can make respectable numbers.



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[Jswerve]

GMR is on my short list. Also interested in others in the TX OK La AR areas. I would prefer to take it to Dave, but PA is a long ride from here... Not ruled out, but still a trek for a day's job.
I'm well past AC but have retained the 110 heads, so far. (I'm not easily convinced that these heads are actually a limiting factor on a 110c.i. so I'm running them for a while longer.) No doubt, the head mongers will happily sell heads that work well, but the CVO heads can make respectable numbers.



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My valve guides failed at 18k so there was no way I was putting the stock heads back on at that point.

[Puma]

The new Dragula 2 does not have the radical bend like the original Dragula. I run it and love it. 97.5 hp and 118 lbs./ft. from a totally stock engine with the Dragula and tune. Nice deep rumble at idle with a muscular sound when you get on it. Pipe looks big and strong and I got my ghost pipe delivered at the same time as the exhaust. Here it is.

[Puma]

And another look at the ghost.

[Puma]

Close up. Check out the cover over the collector area.

[MrSurly]

Thats a good looking pipe. It certainly looks like it would be cooler on the leg!


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[Jswerve]

Thats a good looking pipe. It certainly looks like it would be cooler on the leg!


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I agree. Maybe Frank will give us owners of the original a trade in discount

[fastfreddy]

just put the Dragos2 on mine & you can get a ghost pipe, heres a shot of it. sounds good. havent dynoed yet...will post up numbers when that happens. if you look close you can see i took my radio out cause it sounds so good now...lol 

[North Star]

BTW how far are you from GMR in Fort Worth? I would highly recommend letting Steve work his magic 

Funny I was going to suggest the same thing. I'm a 6.5 hr ride from Dave, and was considering him or Brian Beckley at Zepka's HD (a bit closer), but yeah, that would be a long haul from Texas, especially when you have a shop like GMR in your State.

[MrSurly]

I would wonder if the new Dragula gives up power anywhere as a result of losing the bend.. I would assume that there is a trade-off for any gain in packaging.
My Dragula is 11 months old and flawless. I might just put it on the market and get the "2"


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[Para Bellum]

Close up. Check out the cover over the collector area.

Very clean-looking collector area; looks great.  And ghost pipe gives it a good balanced look.

[Jswerve]

I would wonder if the new Dragula gives up power anywhere as a result of losing the bend.. I would assume that there is a trade-off for any gain in packaging.
My Dragula is 11 months old and flawless. I might just put it on the market and get the "2"


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Funny you mention that because the bend was a big selling point on the 1 now all of a sudden it's gone and the 2 is the best pipe from Frank?