Topic: Heat Demons?? (Read 8552 times)

opee6969 · « **on:** November 08, 2008, 03:06:07 PM »

Will Heat Demons work on an 08' and later bike. I was told, unofficially, the handlebar on the throttle side won't allow the heating element to be inserted into it. Please advise...

Opee

mr_magoo · « **Reply #1 on:** November 08, 2008, 03:14:47 PM »

May have to do with the FBW throttle.

hdbrad03 · « **Reply #2 on:** November 08, 2008, 05:08:45 PM »

I just talked to Mike at Symtec Inc about the grips for TBW throttle. So he sent me a right side heater element to try only difference is it is longer so wirining clears the TBW encoder. Mike said there was enough room on the 08 bikes for the element. Mike also said they have tested the heater with the TBW with no ill effects. So I tried to install today on my 09 FLTRSE3 and there was not enough clearance to get the TBW encoder and heater element into the handlebar. I will be calling Mike Monday to let him know and if he can offer any tips. I will update info if he has any ideas. I do not know if there is any change from 08 to 09 TBW encoder. I really wanted this to work I really miss my heated grips.

Brad

Fired00d · « **Reply #3 on:** November 08, 2008, 05:11:11 PM »

Quote from: hdbrad03 on November 08, 2008, 05:08:45 PM

I just talked to Mike at Symtec Inc about the grips for TBW throttle. So he sent me a right side heater element to try only difference is it is longer so wirining clears the TBW encoder. Mike said there was enough room on the 08 bikes for the element. Mike also said they have tested the heater with the TBW with no ill effects. So I tried to install today on my 09 FLTRSE3 and there was not enough clearance to get the grip and heater element into the handlebar. I will be calling Mike Monday to let him know and if he can offer any tips. I will update info if he has any ideas. I do not know if there is any change from 08 to 09 TBW encoder. I really wanted this to work I really miss my heated grips.

Brad

Brad,
Can you supply a picture of this for those that have TBW? TIA.

Ride Safe,
Fired00d

hdbrad03 · « **Reply #4 on:** November 08, 2008, 05:28:43 PM »

Sure I can take a picture of the heater element but the Bike is back together. I should have snapped a few photo's while trying to install but I had a brain fart and did not. More later.

Brad

sportygordy · « **Reply #5 on:** November 08, 2008, 09:40:17 PM »

Brad,

Do you have stock bars?

hdbrad03 · « **Reply #6 on:** November 08, 2008, 10:05:14 PM »

Yes, Mike told me that the 08's had enough room for the heating element to fit. Not the case on the 09 FLTRSE3. Theclearance from the encoder to the inside of the bar is nill. The encoder barely fits.

Brad

opee6969 · « **Reply #7 on:** November 10, 2008, 01:36:17 PM »

The bike I'm trying to get the Heat Demons to fit in is an 08' Street Glide. Will they fit on this bike?

hdbrad03 · « **Reply #8 on:** November 10, 2008, 02:29:25 PM »

They claim no issues with 08 models but it is a different kit than the standard kit. The throttle side element is longer to clear the TBW Encoder. They are presently looking into the 09's to see if HD changed the Encoder size. More later.

Brad

Boatman · « **Reply #9 on:** January 01, 2009, 04:28:51 PM »

Quote from: hdbrad03 on November 10, 2008, 02:29:25 PM

They claim no issues with 08 models but it is a different kit than the standard kit. The throttle side element is longer to clear the TBW Encoder. They are presently looking into the 09's to see if HD changed the Encoder size. More later.

Brad

Brad, what have you found out about the Demons fitting 08-09's with TBW? Looking to install on 09 Streetglide if wife pulls the trigger. She won't be without heaters.

hdbrad03 · « **Reply #10 on:** January 01, 2009, 05:26:42 PM »

Measure the inside diameter of your handlebar if it is 7/8" or bigger the 08 kit will work. I had to drill out my handlebar to 7/8" on my 09 FLTRSE3. Which I would not recommend in was a bi#$h. I now have heated grips. Symtec really went the extra mile on my install. Good luck and for sure you will enjoy the Heat Demons!

Brad

Twolanerider · « **Reply #11 on:** January 01, 2009, 05:31:14 PM »

Quote from: hdbrad03 on January 01, 2009, 05:26:42 PM

Measure the inside diameter of your handlebar if it is 7/8" or bigger the 08 kit will work. I had to drill out my handlebar to 7/8" on my 09 FLTRSE3. Which I would not recommend in was a bi#$h. I now have heated grips. Symtec really went the extra mile on my install. Good luck and for sure you will enjoy the Heat Demons!

Brad

So the ID of the handlebar is the difference? Symtec released their 08 specific product before the 09s were a known quantity. Then someone here reported an issue with an 09 but I never caught the specifics of why.

Brad, your experience mirrors my own with Symtec. Easy and effective people to work with. How we wish all vendors would be. If the issue is their elements rather than their controls that might be a relatively easy adjustment for them to make. They've already got several different elements in use between ATV, snowmobile and other products. Thanks for the heads up on the actual product difference you witnessed and worked through.

Boatman · « **Reply #12 on:** January 08, 2009, 02:55:06 PM »

I just received a Heat Demon set for an 09 Streetglide after calling them. Will let you know how the install goes.

hdbrad03 · « **Reply #13 on:** January 08, 2009, 04:55:37 PM »

Quote from: Twolanerider on January 01, 2009, 05:31:14 PM

So the ID of the handlebar is the difference? Symtec released their 08 specific product before the 09s were a known quantity. Then someone here reported an issue with an 09 but I never caught the specifics of why.

Brad, your experience mirrors my own with Symtec. Easy and effective people to work with. How we wish all vendors would be. If the issue is their elements rather than their controls that might be a relatively easy adjustment for them to make. They've already got several different elements in use between ATV, snowmobile and other products. Thanks for the heads up on the actual product difference you witnessed and worked through.

Don I think the issue is the CVO Bars are chromed and maybe the TBW Sensor is different than the Normal Production Bikes. There is a additional pair of wires which I think is the heater element for the CVO Ultras. So the diameter of TBW maybe larger on the CVO's. I do not have a CVO supplement so I cannot identify the extra wires. The wiring Colors are different for the Throttle part also when compared to the standard electrical Schematic. So there are many unknown variables.

Brad

Twolanerider · « **Reply #14 on:** January 08, 2009, 06:12:44 PM »

Quote from: hdbrad03 on January 08, 2009, 04:55:37 PM

Don I think the issue is the CVO Bars are chromed and maybe the TBW Sensor is different than the Normal Production Bikes. There is a additional pair of wires which I think is the heater element for the CVO Ultras. So the diameter of TBW maybe larger on the CVO's. I do not have a CVO supplement so I cannot identify the extra wires. The wiring Colors are different for the Throttle part also when compared to the standard electrical Schematic. So there are many unknown variables.

Brad

Thanks Brad. Even though specifics of differences might be yet unknown the fact of differences seems to be known for sure. That's a first step.

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