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[miker]

Or another option is the garmin thing..it has music too...

[Pete]

thanks, I'll check them out

[Hotrod50]

Figured out how to get Windows Media Player songs into iTunes.   Right click on son or album in media player, box will appear.  Choose "open file location".   The songs will appear in a new box already highlighted.  Then just drag them over to itunes.  If the formay needs changed, itunes will tell you and do it for you.  Then you can sync your new ipod touch that you don't really understand how to use.  At least then the songs are there.